Muller generator replication by Romerouk

[Turion]

I too have been in communication with the individual who built the small motor. Below is our conversation. He does NOT claim to have a self running device. In fact, in his conversation with me, his only claim is to a highly efficient motor.


David Bowling to [email protected]
Aug 22 (1 day ago)
I am trying to locate the individual that built the Free Energy Generator that is on YouTube so that some of us can replicate it. Would this be you? Or do you know who did? Any information you might give me would be sincerely appreciated.
David Bowling


fkg eddg to me
Aug 22 (1 day ago)
I am and I can prove
anyone can build a generator like mine
I have the secret in my mind
waiting time


David Bowling to fkg
Aug 22 (1 day ago)
Would you be willing to give a few people from Energetic Forum the information necessary to replicate what you have built? We would gladly sign a non-dsclosure agreement. Since so many people who have built these kinds of devices in the past have later said they were fake, or have disappeared along with their device, I don't want to see another one just vanish.



fkg eddg to me
Aug 22 (1 day ago)
WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO?
WHO ARE YOU?


David Bowling to fkg
Aug 22 (1 day ago)
I am just a builder of free energy devices. My name is David Bowling and I live in San Jose, California, USA.

You could write up the information about your build and post it on Energetic Forum for ALL to see, or if you only want a few people to see it, I can suggest some names and you could send it to them to replicate.

While I would love to be one of those people, there are others who are much better builders than I am, and if you only want a few people to know the design, I wouldn't be one of them.

But I would be happy to get them to sign the non- disclosure agreements and send them to you. Then you could send them the information on how to replicate what you have built.


fkg eddg to me
Aug 22 (1 day ago)
I'm no fool
I know all that implies
nobody, nobody knows where the magic of the motor
free energy = I have not found yet
I have a high efficiency motor
and probably the closest thing to free energy
What is your proposal?


David Bowling to fkg
Aug 22 (1 day ago)
Are you interested in having a few people from the forum replicate your device?

I don't have a proposal other than that. I am not involved in this to make money, just to try and get free energy out to the people.


fkg eddg to me
Aug 22 (1 day ago)
no gracias, continuare con mi camino

Saludos.

[elias]

They are laying flat. But I have wounder many times about rotating them 90 degrees to the opposite of what you suggested would do. I have come up with a mounting method for this. I may do it at some point. well I will now its been brought up.

Thanks
cheers

I have tested this, the best position is the flat position, if you rotate it 90 degrees you will notice that it will start to drag.

[qvision]

LidMotor
Yes "Hows It Done"?

Some fellows here also Wondering?
I believe "the One" [handle at OU] spoke with the inventer?

New videos found on youtube, tiny generator with 2 coils

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Chet

I emailed him yesterday and he replied today :

"wait a few days
I'm going to disarm each of the engine parts
you will know what is inside
will know my name
will be very exciting
regards"


DC.

[toranarod]

Hi toranarod,

I was wondering whether it would affect the speed, if you mount your cores so that the laminations are oriented horizontally instead of vertically.

I'll try to explain better:
from the pictures you posted, I think you mount your coils so that the core-laminations are "standing upright" and not "lying flat".
In order to make them lie flat, you would have to turn the core 90 degrees.

I was wondering if the achieved rpms would be different, if the laminations were lying flat?
Yes, it sounds like a silly idea, but it would be interesting to know whether the orientation of the laminations has an influence. Maybe you could test that?

If you can not do the test because you think the idea is worthless or it requires too many changes to your setup, maybe somebody else can find out about that?

Thanks

They are laying flat. But I have wounder many times about rotating them 90 degrees to the opposite of what you suggested would do. I have come up with a mounting method for this. I may do it at some point. well I will now its been brought up.

Thanks
cheers

[marxist]

orientation of laminations

Hi toranarod,

I was wondering whether it would affect the speed, if you mount your cores so that the laminations are oriented horizontally instead of vertically.

I'll try to explain better:
from the pictures you posted, I think you mount your coils so that the core-laminations are "standing upright" and not "lying flat".
In order to make them lie flat, you would have to turn the core 90 degrees.

I was wondering if the achieved rpms would be different, if the laminations were lying flat?
Yes, it sounds like a silly idea, but it would be interesting to know whether the orientation of the laminations has an influence. Maybe you could test that?

If you can not do the test because you think the idea is worthless or it requires too many changes to your setup, maybe somebody else can find out about that?

Thanks

[toranarod]

For laminated cores, I have once ground off the weld on a micro wave transformer and removed the top lamination. You can then split them in any width you need.

Here are two photos of how to do it.

http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Wattsups%27%20stuff/transformer-lamination/

wattsup

the lamination's are the way to go. I have the best results well the only results with laminated Iron or Mu metal.
all what Romero said about a constant load. The DC To DC converter very important.. converting energy?

[wattsup]

For laminated cores, I have once ground off the weld on a micro wave transformer and removed the top lamination. You can then split them in any width you need.

Here are two photos of how to do it.

http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Wattsups%27%20stuff/transformer-lamination/

wattsup

[Zlatko]

Thanks for quoting here.
So your answer concerning the duplicate thread is?

[vidbid]

Remerogen

A New Idea For A Modification on the Muller Generator / RomeroUK Replication

New Thread: Remerogen

Also see YouTube Video:

RomeroUK Replication - YouTube

Why new thread ???
Is all here already: Muller generator replication by Romerouk

Remerogen is an idea for a modification, of joining a Lindemann Rotary Attraction Motor to a Modified Muller Generator (no drive coils).

[RAMSET]

Start A thread I'll invite the others talking on other forums

LidMotor
Yes "Hows It Done"?

Some fellows here also Wondering?
I believe "the One" [handle at OU] spoke with the inventer?

New videos found on youtube, tiny generator with 2 coils

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Chet

[Xenomorph]

Thanks for posting the link to this video. It perhaps does not belong here and should have it's own thread started.
I have watched the two video's of this motor and do not understand how it runs. The inventor does not want to give out info on it because he claims that it might be dangerous. Running at 7000 RPM I can see his point.

This appears to be a diametrically magnetized ring magnet type pulse motor which I am very familiar with. The problem is that I see no switching method to energize the coils. I can't see a reed switch or a transistor circuit. The two coils appear to be wired in series and directly connected to the power source. A bridge rectifier setup is connected to a capacitor to collect the output.

HOW does this thing work? Does anybody have any ideas? I think that it may relate to the Romero Dynamo because of the way the spinning magnet is inducing power back at the device.

Here is the second video where he has the motor apart, puts it back together, and runs it up. See if you can see ANY switching method to keep the rotor spinning. I can't.

Motor de auto inducción y rotación por inercia - YouTube


Lidmotor

Hey Lidmotor.
I think the switching is done with the diodes controlled by the cap voltage of the electrolytic (~2200 uF) cap.
At first look i found it unusual that he used 2 parallel diodes, since one does not expect that high currents off such tiny generator coils.
My guess is that it's (a combination of normal or zener diodes and) TVS diodes with a 68 Volt Threshold.
Ted came up with something similar a year ago : http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post96748
Cannot be too much other possibilities with such a simple circuit if it's not that.
If the 4 diodes really are just a bridge, then i also got no idea hehe.

Maybe it's even related to this : Faraday Motor

[Slider2732]

To answer Ron's thought...yep, whatever you might have seen in my now oldish videos is directly related to the cores that come from junk. Romero used PC bits, so, I did and do
Often, as with the multi-strand coils, the core is the very same one that came with the coil !
They are adjustable, using a screw thread formed in the plastic innard at the factory and all is there ready to use, except how we wire those 7 strands (which normally are all together as soldered on each of the 2 inputs).
Snap the plastic box off the side of the PC monitor neck area and take out the 2 coils. If they are connected together with plastic, loosen the inner core and remove it, with an Allen key and then cut the two apart. Snap the core into 2 pieces and there we go, 2 coils, with adjustable cores.
Alternatively, take the 7 strand copper wire from the neck and grab a sewing bobbin. Wind til the bobbin is full and do it anyhow you like (Romero's coils aren't perfectly wound and the belief seems to be because of capacitance...I dunno, no idea, just followed what he did). Find some choke cores in power supplies and put one in the now filled sewing bobbin.

Glad you mentioned the motor Lidmotor - please do start a thread about that. I'm sure many people also have questions, I know I do.
Those coils appear to be completing the circuit, rather than deriving power or having a situation where 1 is powering and one collecting. It looked to me, like 1 wire goes to 1 side of the coil from the supercap/batt and the other wire goes to the FWBR with HV cap across. Same deal with the other coil.
It all needs to be picked apart...but I was thrilled to see that very simple thing doing its stuff. Less is more

[qvision]

this is good

Glad it's useful to you

[Lidmotor]

How does this work???

100% Free energy generator !!! - YouTube
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Chet

Thanks for posting the link to this video. It perhaps does not belong here and should have it's own thread started.
I have watched the two video's of this motor and do not understand how it runs. The inventor does not want to give out info on it because he claims that it might be dangerous. Running at 7000 RPM I can see his point.

This appears to be a diametrically magnetized ring magnet type pulse motor which I am very familiar with. The problem is that I see no switching method to energize the coils. I can't see a reed switch or a transistor circuit. The two coils appear to be wired in series and directly connected to the power source. A bridge rectifier setup is connected to a capacitor to collect the output.

HOW does this thing work? Does anybody have any ideas? I think that it may relate to the Romero Dynamo because of the way the spinning magnet is inducing power back at the device.

Here is the second video where he has the motor apart, puts it back together, and runs it up. See if you can see ANY switching method to keep the rotor spinning. I can't.

Motor de auto inducción y rotación por inercia - YouTube


Lidmotor

[toranarod]

Use magnetite.

It is superior to even metglass.

Watch these videos :

Dr. Peter Lindemann Speaks on Magnetite Core Material - YouTube

Magnetite Cores - YouTube

Magnitite Cores 2 - YouTube

It is cheap, highly effective as either a drive or a generator core and it's what Muller used.

this is good