Bedini Earth Light

[plengo]

allow me a new surprise concerning the water.

Try with H202 and you will have a nice surprise!!!

Water not only but the oxygen will eat up the free ions that corrode the metals.

Fausto.

[ibpointless2]

In this video I'm showing the biggest of the hydrate cells. These Cells are combined Hydrates and mixed with Iron Pirate and Magnesium grains. As the video shows that the Hydrate material can pull the moisture right out of the air. The cell in this video is capable of over 200Ma under dead short circuit current. During the pressing process the cell releases the water from within the crystals and the cell shorts itself out. All Crystal Cells contain water locked up within the crystals. The crystal cell uses this locked up water for Ion movement between the electrodes.The Hydrate allows the cell to gather the water from the air and this then rejuvenates the cell. The cells were built by Chuck Hupp and John Bedini, the pressure
process was an idea of Ibpointlass2 on the Energetic Forum, under Bedini Earth Lights.
John Bedini
Big Heptahydrate Hydrate Cells Chuck And John.wmv - YouTube

@ lidmotor,
Lidmotor you should only have to hydrate the cell one time if you have mixed the hydrate #5 in. I did not notice this as part of your mix in your test cell.
The answer is in what Ibpointless2 has figured out as cooking the mixture may not be necessary as the two crystals are different things. if the group can just compress them as I did in this video and see the water pressed out you know that it is locked inside the crystals. The mixture has stayed the same as I gave some pages back. It is much easier to make the cell this way as it does not require any heating of the copper, and it looks like it builds it's own semiconductor surface on the copper as it goes black and does not stop working.
JB

@all
Like it shows in John's video when you compress the cell it releases water, this is very important. A hydrate cell needs water for amps but if you have to much water you can kill the cell. Compressing the cell forces any un-needed water out. The water that remains is the "water crystal" or the water locked up inside the crystal, its that water that you need. All the extra water is not needed and only gets in the way of power production. Compressing a cell is a great way to fine tune the cell for best power and long life. Also only use distilled water and not tap water, tap water may contain organisms that might try to eat the crystal mixture.

Great video John and Chuck

[John_Bedini]

Big Heptahydrate hydrate cell.

In this video I'm showing the biggest of the hydrate cells. These Cells are combined Hydrates and mixed with Iron Pirate and Magnesium grains. As the video shows that the Hydrate material can pull the moisture right out of the air. The cell in this video is capable of over 200Ma under dead short circuit current. During the pressing process the cell releases the water from within the crystals and the cell shorts itself out. All Crystal Cells contain water locked up within the crystals. The crystal cell uses this locked up water for Ion movement between the electrodes.The Hydrate allows the cell to gather the water from the air and this then rejuvenates the cell. The cells were built by Chuck Hupp and John Bedini, the pressure
process was an idea of Ibpointlass2 on the Energetic Forum, under Bedini Earth Lights.
John Bedini
Big Heptahydrate Hydrate Cells Chuck And John.wmv - YouTube

@ lidmotor,
Lidmotor you should only have to hydrate the cell one time if you have mixed the hydrate #5 in. I did not notice this as part of your mix in your test cell.
The answer is in what Ibpointless2 has figured out as cooking the mixture may not be necessary as the two crystals are different things. if the group can just compress them as I did in this video and see the water pressed out you know that it is locked inside the crystals. The mixture has stayed the same as I gave some pages back. It is much easier to make the cell this way as it does not require any heating of the copper, and it looks like it builds it's own semiconductor surface on the copper as it goes black and does not stop working.
JB

[everyidea]

RU Sodium Silicate + Sand = Rock

An interesting way to make a rock. Now, what if you where to add things to the sand, or replace it entirely?

Railway Bob's Railway Restorations: Sand Cores Using Sodium Silicate and Carbon Dioxide (CO2)

Metal Casting at Home Part 11. Sodium Silicate & CO2 Core Making. - YouTube

rw

[plengo]

My cells running inside sealed plastic bottles with a few mls of water inside are running great. Definitely the water in those bottles keeps those cells running very strong for much a longer time. So water is indeed keeping them running.

I also opened one of those cells and there is a very little amount of corrosion going on but very little.

Some cells are contained and never added water again are some are going pretty well. Very well to be honest.

I am concluding that there are two ways to utilize the water: molecule contained (Bedini style with hydrates - 5H20) and external (Fausto's way ).

I really like the molecule way. Carbon seems to increase the conductivity inside the cell and therefore reduce impedance and improve current output. Silica seams to be helping in containing the level of delivery of water to the Mg and therefore controlling its corrosion. Epson or Rochelle seams to be having the hydrates we want and Alum seams to be the crystal grower that provides the "tubes" or "pipes" that guides the water to the correct location.

I am trying to improve in the crystal growth and silica level now.

Fausto.

[b_rads]

Still looking for material alternatives?

As we all know, there are many ways to create energy and converting that energy into productive work, Solar, wind, hydro, chemical, and even garbage to name a few. This operative here is to find a source that can compete economically with what is already available. I have gone a different direction and experimenting with and studying MFC technology.



Here is a link:

http://www.lessemf.com/fabric.html

Brad S

[Lidmotor]

Water & Heat

@ Chuck
The little Hankscraft motor ran all day and then slowed down and stopped in the evening. I heated up some water in a cup and set it on the cell and it started back up. This action of freeing up the water in the crystal with heat facinates me. I guess you and John are going to use solar heat to do it and that is a really cool idea. I just wonder if there is ideal temperature to shoot for. The hot coffee mug worked pretty good.

On the new Hydrate Crystal cell I decided to seal it up tonight with tape like you and John did yours. I hope that I got the build right and that it will continue putting out the great power.

@ Plengo
I think that the direction back towards using water and not totally dry cells is the best idea. JB is right---if you want the power you need the water. The trick is preserving the electrodes like he says.

Lidmotor

[Michael Kishline]

Another one "Lanthanum Fluoride Battery"

I especially like the processing of the electrodes on this one. Makes one think of applying these creative techniques.

"Lanthanum Fluoride Battery One of the most modern high-capacity batteries are lanthanum fluoride batteries. The Russian company "High-energy battery systems" has been working on this type of secondary power source since 1999 under the leadership of Alexander Potanin, PhD in technical sciences.A lanthanum fluoride battery represents a fundamentally new class of secondary elements - solid-state batteries. Its anode is made of lanthanum, and the cathode - of fluoride bismuth or lead. Barium lanthanum fluoride is used as the electrolyte, besides this electrolyte is hard. The battery production technology consists of covering anode and cathode electrodes in a solid solution of lanthanum and barium fluoride. The element is formed by AC voltage of a sinusoidal form of industrial frequency at 800 degrees, resulting in reduction of internal resistance of the element that increases its maximum output currentLanthanum Fluoride Battery - YouTube

Just add water, sounds familiar.
Multi-Functional Water Battery Clock - YouTube

Mike

[Michael Kishline]

Intresting Tid Bit

I came across this information, check it out.

"Free Energy" cell battery Lithium sulfinyl chloride accumulators which appeared in recent years combine the compact size of nickel cadmium batteries and nickel-metal-hydride batteries and a high capacity of lead-acid batteries."Free Energy" battery produced by the "Center of independent supply sources" is one of the variants of standby battery of this type. They are composed of PMX165C cells with a nominal voltage of 3.93V per cell, the capacity of 6.2 A/h and the size 24*55 mm.The peculiar feature of these cells is a relatively low discharge current about 0.3A. Therefore they can't be used in transport vehicles or power electric tools unlike lithium-iron-phosphate cells.Although these cells as supply source of independent devices have a wider temperature range from -20 to +165 degrees and low self-discharge current not more than 3% of the capacity per year.Moreover, "Free Energy" batteries have an inbuilt unit of discharge control which monitors the discharge level and sends reports on its status to the remote unit of data reader via Bluetooth or PC cable.All these characteristics make "Free Energy" batteries a reliable supply source for independent high-duty equipment."

"Free Energy" cell battery - YouTube

Very interesting

Mike

[plengo]

JB, Chuck,& All
I was successful replicating the full size Crystal Hydrate cell today. It was not easy and it took two attempts. Cooking the mix right is very hard and the first attempt was too undercooked and a failure. The second time I got it right somehow and the cell turned out amazing. Thanks again John and Chuck for this cell design. It is hard to make but worth it.

I tried it out on all my toys that run on a AA and was most pleased when it powered up Slayer Exciter. A bunch of us who work on the "Exciter" projects have dreamed about this for a long time.

Bedini Hydrate Crystal Cell running a Slayer Exciter - YouTube

I guess I'll try IB's new pressure cell next.

Lidmotor

Awesome work Lidmotor. Those cells can really do things.

Fausto.

[Lidmotor]

Hydrate Cell--Full replication-----running a Slayer Exciter

JB, Chuck,& All
I was successful replicating the full size Crystal Hydrate cell today. It was not easy and it took two attempts. Cooking the mix right is very hard and the first attempt was too undercooked and a failure. The second time I got it right somehow and the cell turned out amazing. Thanks again John and Chuck for this cell design. It is hard to make but worth it.

I tried it out on all my toys that run on a AA and was most pleased when it powered up Slayer Exciter. A bunch of us who work on the "Exciter" projects have dreamed about this for a long time.

Bedini Hydrate Crystal Cell running a Slayer Exciter - YouTube

I guess I'll try IB's new pressure cell next.

Lidmotor

[chuck H]

Cells and salts

@ IB2:
We just finished a much larger cell about 2" copper by 6" tall. John had to go home and I have meetings tonight. John will post tonight or in A.M. on this. It took John 4 hrs to make the tooling for this
"compressed cell". The dies probably way 4 pounds but will never need another set for this size cell.

Yes those two you can mix. Epsom and Salt sub as I'm sure you know that.

[plengo]

I am starting to be really happy with the group finding out the water in limited and structured and special delivery process is key to this thing.

I thought for a moment that we would be pursuing only dry, 100% water free cells and not get anywhere. That is not to say we can not, it is just my opinion that water is essential (just like anything in organic life) and it is a mater of how to delivery and how much.

I think also to have 100% water free cells we will have to find an example in nature first and than look how it does it. Rocks in my opinion are far free from water.

Fausto.

[jehdds]

[ibpointless2]

Just an update on the sealed cells charging the AAA battery. Also John shows a "DON'T DO THIS" and explains why. Also some of the MR cells and the BIG BLUE osc I made last year keeps going.

Hydrate crystal cell charging NiMh - YouTube

Chuck H

Don't mix salt substitute with John Bedini's Hydrate mix, but its ok to mix salt substitute and Epsom salt.