Bedini Earth Light

[ibpointless2]

Hi IB

No, have not tried this one, although my shop seems like a freezer

I do notice when my dry cells outside temp goes up then the amps go up

What can I expect to see?

IB, the one cell you took apart to look at the mag decay-or no decay

What kind of power where you getting?

thanks

The day I took it apart i was getting 1.45 volts @ 100uA.

The video you posted has a bad link, I think this is the one you wanted to post? Allwest power cell # 4 - YouTube

The video was very interesting, i like how you add the water but is that what i think it is that separates the metals?

[Allwest]

The weird things that make power cells

The Allwest Power Cell # 4

http://www.youtube.com/my_videos_edit?ns=1&video_id=u8Iy1BDSsFo

[Allwest]

Hi IB

No, have not tried this one, although my shop seems like a freezer

I do notice when my dry cells outside temp goes up then the amps go up

What can I expect to see?

IB, the one cell you took apart to look at the mag decay-or no decay

What kind of power where you getting?

thanks

[ibpointless2]

Hi All,

I am not sure who all have tested or tried cry cells?

I know Ibpointless has made some

What can we expect from dry cells in the way of power

I have some that still get great volt 1.5, but the amps are way down 5Ma

Can some one tell us what to expect?

Thanks

Have you tried putting some cells in the freezer over night?

[Allwest]

Hi All,

I am not sure who all have tested or tried cry cells?

I know Ibpointless has made some

What can we expect from dry cells in the way of power

I have some that still get great volt 1.5, but the amps are way down 5Ma

Can some one tell us what to expect?

Thanks

[Allwest]

Allwest,

GaPO4 was developed by 2 organisations in Austria but neither of them sell it as far as I am aware. See:
CORDIS: Technology Marketplace
*Europa : CORDIS : Search : Simple search : Projects

These are the guys that manufacture it:
PIEZOCRYST: Advanced Sensorics GmbH

Alex.

Thanks, so much for your response

[CrystalDipoleMatrix]

Waiting game

Hi all, I just finished cooking my new cells with the depolarizer (mn2o3) and the heated pyrite (fe2o3). Now and so on it will be a waiting game to see how long the led will light without water and without destroying the magnesium. Hope to see some progress over here....

[griplets]

Does any body know where to buy


"Gallium orthophosphate" ?

Allwest,

GaPO4 was developed by 2 organisations in Austria but neither of them sell it as far as I am aware. See:
CORDIS: Technology Marketplace


These are the guys that manufacture it:
PIEZOCRYST: Advanced Sensorics GmbH

Alex.

[NickZ]

Here is a picture of my newest cells. The bigger one on the right side is a semiconductor cooper/Al treated cell, with a plug on top to add water. If I plug the cell up, it will still seep the hydrogen gas as well as salt water around the edges of the cells. So, quite a bit of pressure is created by this gas that needs to vent, and also needs to be neutralized by a de-polarizer.

[Allwest]

Does any body know where to buy


"Gallium orthophosphate" ?

[CrystalDipoleMatrix]

Rochelle salt

I just made rochelle salt with cream of tartar and heated sodium bicarbonate. That's really cool stuff!!! Some big crystals too!

[NickZ]

CrystalDM:
I don't know if I'd want to mess to much with the Mn02, as the stuff is very nasty, and dangerous to work with.
In any case let us know how it goes...

[CrystalDipoleMatrix]

Maybe another form of depolarizer discovered!

I've found that heating iron pyrite will kill the sulfur to form fe2o3 (rust). The mineral form of mn2o3/fe2o3 is called bixbyite. It is often found with magnetite and hematite. It really mean something to me. I will make some cells with my heated iron pyrite and powdered bixbyite as doping. Will see!

[CrystalDipoleMatrix]

Heating the MNO2

Plengo and All:
Yes, correct, it is a typo error on my part. I meant Manganese Dioxide (MnO2).

I am having some good luck now with using aluminum/ activated carbon/ sand, regular salt mix, and am getting 50 to 60 mA per cell. The main trick is maintaining PRESSURE on the cells.
My last cell is a big 3 inch tall aluminum tube cell 1 1/4 wide, is using the semiconductor treated copper tube, with cloth separator. It is giving me 1.2 volts. So, not so bad for no cost cells, now putting out some useable light.

I am going to open up another carbon/zinc D cell remove the MnO2, and make a cell using that again. As I was able to light a red led by itself on a previously made Mn02 cell. Can I just add silica pellets straight into the electrolyte mix? I'm still looking for the pyrite, also.
The carbon and salt electrolyte combination is a winner though... as carbon absorbs the salt and water like a sponge, but the cell burns them up, like a jet afterburner.
My last cell is sealed, and is still having a watering hole on top, but, with a removable rubber plug on the watering hole, to keep additional moisture at bay.
I'm still working on new cells, but will upload some pics soon.
NickZ

Maybe trying to heat the MNO2 to form MN2O3 and comparing the results ? John was talking about using mn2o3. But I was reading about the mn2o3 that was a biproduct from the redox reaction of mno2 in an alkaline cell. I'm not sure which form to use...

[CrystalDipoleMatrix]

Thanks for posting that link. This was well worth the time to look at this and watch a video on what these thin cells can do. Pay special attention to HOW this cell works. The way that the electrons and ions move in the electrolyte sounds like what John has been talking about in his cells. The big difference is that these cell are stricly storage devices. They don't produce the energy on their own. They are just rechargables but they were designed to easily accept "ambient enegy" of very low power levels (RF, heat, vibration, and light) from a gathering device such as a solar cell or a piezio element. These cells last almost forever like a capacitor and they don't leak away the energy.
Cool stuff.

Lidmotor

Yeah, just saw the demo videos. Now I understand that big difference! My mistake...