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[shawnnweed]

IBpointless2, I loved that you went over 2 volts by hooking up to a rock. Have you ever tried hooking up to thorium?

,Shawn

Have any of you read the new thread on thorium battery suppresion by five inventors; some from different countries?

[rosehillworks]

@rosehillworks: I have read this passage in the book and it's just a simple thermopile. Search in google and you will find how to build one. Yeah it works but only if you heat it (I mean really hot!). It has nothing to do with these crystal units. In this case, we are talking about: 1: two dissimilar metals that makes the potential difference (the dipole). 2: Forming a polycrystalin material in between the metals. 3: having the right oxides on both metal that will protect those and serve as a semi-conductor for the 'free' ion exchange. 4: Having water locked up in between the crystal structure (lattice) to be able to burn freely without causing galvanic action. The water (hydrogen) will give you the current. Hope this saves you a lot of reading.

CrystalDipoleMatrix I understand what you are saying thanks.



John B. thank you for your answer. The violet glass made me think of your
special plastic you can put over a pv cell to get more power out of it, and I
know these crystal cells do respond to heat. I am enjoying what you are
teaching us. Sorry if this was a distraction. Thanks.

[CrystalDipoleMatrix]

Before going further..

Hi John, I know for sure that magnesium is a high energy metal. It takes a very very little galvanic action to produce some current for a long long time without seeing visual deterioration. I just hope that the cuprous copper and the manganese III oxides are a foot step to the infinity battery. I dont want to waste my time and I have put all my trust in you since day one. We know in this case, that we cannot pull any conclusion without long range current supply testing but I hope it's not an hoax. I do know for sure that your not a fool.

Well appreciate, Jean.

[CrystalDipoleMatrix]

Thermopile

@rosehillworks: I have read this passage in the book and it's just a simple thermopile. Search in google and you will find how to build one. Yeah it works but only if you heat it (I mean really hot!). It has nothing to do with these crystal units. In this case, we are talking about: 1: two dissimilar metals that makes the potential difference (the dipole). 2: Forming a polycrystalin material in between the metals. 3: having the right oxides on both metal that will protect those and serve as a semi-conductor for the 'free' ion exchange. 4: Having water locked up in between the crystal structure (lattice) to be able to burn freely without causing galvanic action. The water (hydrogen) will give you the current. Hope this saves you a lot of reading.

[John_Bedini]

Cells

William,
No I was not doing that. I'm just continuing to research the cells. I have come to some conclusions but I'm not ready to post anything just yet. The best working cells I will talk about shortly.
John B

[rosehillworks]

369 369

@ John B
Sorry about that. I do not know how to make it bigger. It is from the book
THE BOY ELECTRICIAN. It is page's 368 and 369 . To me it sounds a lot like you are doing. I think it was you that said to read that book. Page 369 got me thinking a lot more about what you are doing. Thanks

[aaron5120]

A newly discovered crystalline material for making batteries

I found this article quite interesting:
Nanoparticle electrode for batteries could make grid-scale power storage feasible
Just don't know where to buy Copper Hexacyanoferrite for the experiments!

[CrystalDipoleMatrix]

How can you produce these such high voltages with just one cell??? Mag and copper again?? or something else?? Is it over 3 volts or just milivolts?
Thanks.
Jean

[Allwest]

Check out the volts on the new upgraded cell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nB93yq7vpI

[John_Bedini]

Can't Read it

@ John B
Is this what you are going for?
[ATTACH]10575[/ATTACH]

Sorry I can not read what your talking about.
John

[NickZ]

@ All:
I just wanted to show what three small pieces of activated carbon, on a 1/2" by 3" piece of aluminum, and some table salt can do. Poor mans electrolyte. Ha!
This is a Jt circuit is running on 0.45 volt, and 13mAs. I connected the oscillator to 6 leds, and it lit them all up, about 1/3 brightness. The camera flash is dropping the actual brightness of the led, but some amount of intensity can still be seen. Led is too bright to look at, it's a 10mm Radio Shack super bright led.
This oscillator is a regular Jt type circuit without a resistor, using a KN2222A transistor, with the led between the collector and the base. It can run down to 0.3 volts, 500 micro-amps, or less.
The single carbon/Al cell is working as if it were three cells in parallel. I think... as each time I added another little piece of carbon, the brightness went up on the led.
NickZ

[rosehillworks]

just thinking

@ John B
Is this what you are going for?

[vintasalo]

vintasalo,

I have tried dielectric grease, that I use on connections for house wiring, and car tuneups

Using it on these cells, works great, cuts down if not completely the decay on magnesium, with very little loss in power

I just tried Teflon, this also works, much easier to work with

I have been working on a new cell that started at 1.88 volts and over night went up to 3.16 volts, although the amps went from 60Ma to 15Ma

I have seen some of John Bedini videos where he hates the smell of some of these cell products Ha!

Okay John, this cell must be for you, The products in this cell smells GREAT

Good luck to all

Hi All

Teflon, teflon, teflon... oh wow have i been thinking about teflon..lol, but seriously they sell a grill spray thats teflon that you can then in turn bake on to your materials(anode, Cathode).. in theory this would permanently subdue oxidation to little to none.

I especially recommend this with water cells !!

I assume your speaking of your hydrate cell going up in voltage which is cool to see so high, yet your Amps so low... hmm, have you thought of electrical to increase your amps, toroids, oscillators, etc.. I know that when i made two different cells: 1 being just a regular cell with material inside it had ok amps. When i wound the wire to increase the hertz in the cell it then increased in amps.

I also have thought of electrodes suspended in dielectric grease, but for now its paper and teflon

Keep up the great work ALLWest and all others

[Allwest]

Its a fresh cell only a day old. I thought this idea would widen the spectrum on the cell structure, like your "glue cell". Also i havent seen anyone use galena as a anode and mag ribbon as cathode, this combo seems to work best on hydrate cells. Also with the paper as a dielectric your minimizing the direct oxidation of the metals. Not to mention their storage capabilities since they are not permanently attached to the metals.

I have made many variables of this cell so i will keep this forum updated on their decay rate if there is any. I encourage thread readers to experiment with different dielectric materials, for example "Teflon"

Here is a simple dielectric material chart:
(Found on yahoo answers)

The best dielectric is thin films of silicon oxynitride, with a dielectric strength of over 1,000 mV/m. Material* Dielectric strength (kV/inch) ==============================
Vacuum ------------------- 20
Air ---------------------- 20 to 75
Porcelain ---------------- 40 to 200
Paraffin Wax ------------- 200 to 300
Transformer Oil ---------- 400
Bakelite ----------------- 300 to 550
Rubber ------------------- 450 to 700
Shellac ------------------ 900
Paper -------------------- 1250
Teflon ------------------- 1500
Glass -------------------- 2000 to 3000
Mica --------------------- 5000R

vintasalo,

I have tried dielectric grease, that I use on connections for house wiring, and car tuneups

Using it on these cells, works great, cuts down if not completely the decay on magnesium, with very little loss in power

I just tried Teflon, this also works, much easier to work with

I have been working on a new cell that started at 1.88 volts and over night went up to 3.16 volts, although the amps went from 60Ma to 15Ma

I have seen some of John Bedini videos where he hates the smell of some of these cell products Ha!

Okay John, this cell must be for you, The products in this cell smells GREAT

Good luck to all

[FrozenWaterLab]

Table of Standard Electrode Potentials

Maybe asking too much, but it does not hurt to ask (sometimes)

Hi Allwest
I was looking for the same thing awhile back asking why don't you submit some facts you have drawn etc.
Just not the way the group works. You will find you must go through all the posts w/videos and keep your own notes.
Welcome
Frznwtr