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[Allwest]

Here is one idea, I was thinking about trying on these cells

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[Allwest]

The first cell 1.61 volts .24 Amps

Copper pipe with mag ribbon, paper between and alum water

Second cell 1.50 volts .44 Amps

1.5" rod inside copper pipe, paper and alum water

I guess size does matter


These amps where WAY up from when it tested, the only thing I can think of why it goes down is the oxidation of the Mag from the alum

The first cell was .26 and the second was .52

I am going to try and coat the mag to prevent oxidation

1. Electrical grease- I use it when I connect copper and Aluminum wires together to prevent corrosion on the connection point

2. Sodium Silicate- I see where you guys use silicate to coat, does that help prevent oxidation?

Your thoughts?

[Allwest]

Friday night fun

This video is by link only
large power cell - YouTube

I am testing two cells separately

Trying figure out which way to connect the cells for best result totally

The amp scale is on 10 Amp

[cgalvisardila]

thanks crystaldipole, ill try that next

[plengo]

Thank you IB. That is a nice lunch!

Fausto.

[ibpointless2]

Hey Ibpointless,

Great output power on last cell. Please, spill the beans.

Fausto.

Get a cup

fill cup with Morton's Salt Substitute and Epsom Salt. About two spoon full of both.

add this on top of the salts http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/pro...d2739e_300.jpg

Mix all three things together.

Add enough water to make it the texture of mashed potatoes.

Add a little more of salt substitute and Epsom salt to it and mix it all together.

Insert copper and magnesium electrodes.

With you finger smash down the mix to make a flat compressed area, don't smash too hard. You want a nice flat smashed surface on top.

allow to dry over night.

The next day record amps and voltage.

leave on amp setting and see if amps go up.

hook a resistor to it and see if the voltage across the resistor goes up.

Leave resistor hooked up over night, remove resistor and allow to rest for 5 minutes and see if voltage and amps went up.

[CrystalDipoleMatrix]

[cgalvisardila]

Hi everyone, I've made a couples of these cells with the right mix and oxides and it works great! The key is the manganese dioxide3(MN2O3) for the full h2o burning mode. It's been since 3 weeks and very little watering every 5-7 days is required for full operation mode. I opened one of the cells to see if there is a galvanic effect and I see nothing. The black copper oxide layer is 100% there and the magnesium is slowly turning black because of the manganese oxide protective layer. Its putting out 3-7 ma on a constant load (5mm white bright led) and 15-20 ma on a 10 ohms resistor load.

thanks for this, i had my eye on the Mn, where do you get the Mn203, does it have to be this kind precisely? cheers

[CrystalDipoleMatrix]

The right mix and the cells burns water

Hi everyone, I've made a couples of these cells with the right mix and oxides and it works great! The key is the manganese dioxide3(MN2O3) for the full h2o burning mode. It's been since 3 weeks and very little watering every 5-7 days is required for full operation mode. I opened one of the cells to see if there is a galvanic effect and I see nothing. The black copper oxide layer is 100% there and the magnesium is slowly turning black because of the manganese oxide protective layer. Its putting out 3-7 ma on a constant load (5mm white bright led) and 15-20 ma on a 10 ohms resistor load.

[plengo]

Crystal Cell Amps go up when given a load - YouTube

Hey Ibpointless,

Great output power on last cell. Please, spill the beans.

Fausto.

[ibpointless2]

Crystal Cell Amps go up when given a load - YouTube

[jehdds]

Has anyone else seen the amps of a crystal cell go up when given a load?

IB,
Yes I see this especially with cell that have been loaded,
Allowed to rest and have been on the bench for a long time as in weeks thus well past wet stage ie the cells are dry and Not rehydrated beyond initial fabrication.

Very best regards,
Jim

[ibpointless2]

Has anyone else seen the amps of a crystal cell go up when given a load?

[NickZ]

Tonight I tried the pulverized aquarium charcoal and I added just plain table salt and beach sand to form the electrolyte mix. I added just enough water to make that into a paste, kind of similar to what John B showed. I painted that rather thick carbon/salt paste mix onto a double layer of paper towel, which is laid on top of the flat aluminum 1"by 3" plate electrode. I'm going to just let the mix air dry out on its own. It does show some power coming from it already.
First time I've had to raise my mA meter setting to the 250mA position, to be able to read the 60 - 70 mA output from this cell. But, that voltage does drop to about 1/2, after a while.
This is just using a piece of flat aluminum plate as the negative pole, and carpenter pencil lead as the positive electrode, along with the painted electrolyte carbon/salt mix on the paper towel mentioned above.
The voltage does drop somewhat in time. But is still higher than any other cell I've made, so far.

NickZ

[cgalvisardila]

MnO2 question

I would like to ask either john or chuck, about the MnO2 you use on the mix.. you probably said this already, if you did i apologize, a lot of information is passed on every day here i might have missed it. the question is, what type of MnO2 works better, reagent grade or electrolytic? here's a link with info i've been reading on the subject

Solid state ionics for batteries - Tsutomu Minami, Masahiro Tatsumisago - Google Books

cheers