Bedini Earth Light

[mk1]

Hi , everyone i wanted to say i value each individual in this group , i would have loved to been of more help here , but money is real tight and loosing the internet tonight so i make the best of it , and take time to thank each of you guys personalty , because reality starts with a vision success for all is only days away !


I also leave this here it is observation about resonance and energy transition,
in the stuff... lol i know its not the place but i don't have time to do it right.

Its not elegant but i think illustrates the point . I am sure most know ...

Resonance 101 test what tesla test it !

Mark

[griplets]

@ John B, & all.

John I note that the link you provided in message 3311 calls for silver. I was going to mention about a month ago that using colloidal silver instead of regular distilled water may be advantagous. I hadnt mentioned it till now as I wasnt sure how much value this would be to you.

Just a thought.

Alex.

[area46241]

Soap Cell!!

I did try the sg on my 2 inch copper pipe cap coffee filter fire starter cell and it woke it up nicely charged it for a minute and the voltage held at 2.5 v(during charge) so now i can use the latrine with confidence...

Tonight I considered something after witnessing an aluminum/lye/carbon cell video and came up with a magnesium/safeguard soap bar/carbon cell and i had to wet it but it worked well 1.4 volts! I hope you all don't think I'm trying to derail the train by posting this...I really envy you guys with the higher tech aproach and everyone has contributed and I know I'm alittle behind the curve but it keeps me coming back to learn more each time thanks guys - Damon in Indiana

[jehdds]

Dear John B,
Please Check you PM here.
Very Best Regards,
Jim

[area46241]

Potasiation...

It just occured to me that these cells we have all been building and running untill there's no juice or chemistry left may not be useless after all..the thing that just hit me is...most of us have built Bedini sg's and they are waiting in the other room to dust off and use! Now that a bunch of my alum cells have dropped in output now is the time to rejuvenate them with some radiant power...plengo's sulfated cell sparked the idea and made me think about my alum water cells and ibpointless' cells that have withered down ...sulfation...potasiation...clorided...i'm gonna give it a shot in the morning ...i gotta sleep...i doubt i'm the first to consider this but maybe the radiant spikes will make gold out of the dust

[mikrovolt]

@Stefan,
first we watched IBpointless glue cells, I tried glue and graphite inspired by you.
on page 21 and 22 of this thread we started looking at thermal because John's Far infra-red.
soon after we began going back to water cells.
Inquorate introduced us to monothermal,the guy named Lovell understood how to use PVA chemistry.
John's cells took us out of the 2mA range into 12 mA and we need to look again
at the condition of the magnesium from those days.

b_rads put together a short pdf on his research.

http://www.energeticforum.com/attachments/renewable-energy/8416d1306965009-bedini-earth-light-monothermal.pdf

We know on OU that has been discussed, also they give some patent info.
MONOTHERMAL Energy from Ambient Heat

[hartiberlin]

@mikrovolt,

do you already know, what your

polyvinyl acetate lampblack paint
is doing ?

Please post the chemical formulas, if you know them.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

[mikrovolt]

Hartiberlin (Stephan),
Thankyou for dropping by best regards to our friends at OU.
we have some polyvinyl acetate lampblack paint experiments,
I see you found the art store chemical that works, thankyou
good work stephan !

[hartiberlin]

My latest cell with Iron Pyrite seems to be galvanic BUT I am not in a conclusive stage yet. I still have a cell that I will leave for a few more months running before I open it and examine it.

In this video you will see what I mean: Crystal Cell 26 - YouTube

I do have another cell running without water since day one that is really making me surprised. It is a cooked cell. I will have to replicate it before I open it.

Fausto.

Magnesium is very reactive and it unfortunetaly
looks really like it is a galvanic reaction.

Also you need to isolate the screw from the carbon,
cause in your case the carbon is the second electrode and not the
copper, so you have a shortcircuit in your cell already if you let the carbon touch the ss screw.

Well now after Lidmotor has also seen galvanic reaction
I am looking forward to see John and Chuck show their
Magnesium pieces after some heavy uses.

My magnesium AZ31X and AZ61A alloys also have been corroded
and I am now going again with ALuminium foil only, as it is cheap
to get and is the only electrode that will corrode.

Will also soon try the graphite - graphite cells where one electrode will
be doped with TiO2 and the other electrode will be doped with ZnO.

Then we might get some cells that DO NOT corrode at all, surely
their output will be much lower but then you have to put several in
series to get the required voltage as the will only put out around 0.3 Volts each.

Regards, Stefan.

[plengo]

My latest cell with Iron Pyrite seems to be galvanic BUT I am not in a conclusive stage yet. I still have a cell that I will leave for a few more months running before I open it and examine it.

In this video you will see what I mean: Crystal Cell 26 - YouTube

I do have another cell running without water since day one that is really making me surprised. It is a cooked cell. I will have to replicate it before I open it.

Fausto.

[NickZ]

Guys:
Although this was a post that I made in the Heredical Builders site,today, I though that it might come in handy here as well:

All:
We have heard of what the current outlook or information is on batteries or cell technology. I'm not trying to repeat that same knowledge, but find or develops new sources to dry non-galvanic solid state manufacturing processes instead.
The closest example of a non galvanic cell, is the solar cell, and further adaptation, and modification of similar or like manor cells, possibly based on the semiconductor idea, instead of chemical reaction based cells.
When we make cells that simulate regular galvanic technology, a version of a galvanic cell will be what is still created. And it's possible that up to now, that may be all that we've come up with. But, we are still at work on this, and it may take a lot longer than we bargained for. But, our cells are not just like regular batteries that are dependent on being charged, or recharged. And, That is not just a minor point.
I also think that when even our galvanic cells dry up, they will operate somewhat similar to a capacitor, in further producing a voltage, but without current. That no current based cell MAY be what will have to happen to avoid the breakdown of the metals used.
The fact that possibly nobody has come up with this non-galvanic cell, yet, should not detour us.
It also took thousands of years to come up with the first useful solar cell, and to also improve on it, which may still have a long ways to go, be to become an everyday useful item, utilized by all.

I stand by my previous statement:
Light does not "travel" at all. It is created on Earth, through a process of polarization, and is NOT coming from the sun. Period. Please check into it, not by reading the same old text books that are still used to fool us.

I am also hopeful that the no current type of cell may be able to work in conjunction with the Dr. Stiffler type of oscillator circuit, to produce a useful amount of light, that needs only voltage to operate.

[NickZ]

So, what's the word with Manganese Dioxide??? Has anyone given that a try? Depolarizer, so that the hydrogen doesn't build on on the + pole.
Also what do you think about adding some zinc, as a sacrificial metal to any aluminum used in the cells. The zinc will wear away first, and can be placed on the outside of the cells. Similar to how it works on outboard motors, etz...
Manganese dioxide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[tecknomancer]

@Technomancer - The question is how do you get out the copper in a timely manner?
@Michael - That's awesome you got a gallon for $30! If you try and get it on ebay and it's expensive. Though maybe you could get a gallon for $20 by making it. You can get tons of silica packets and Lye pellets (sodium hydroxide) very cheap through ebay. Which ever way works for us is good. Thanks.

The best way is it is naturally separated, as long as you don't shake it before you need use it will stay separated, but if it is mixed somehow settles to the bottom in about 12 hours I use a syringe with a small tube to draw out what I need

[Herbie687]

I'm not sure where you are, but this is a good supply of pure sodium silicate if you let the copper settle out
sodium silicate supply
it's under $5.00 at a auto parts store I found this on at Autozone

Herbie, that takes way too long in my world, especially if you don't have all the other chemicals to make it.
The cheapest source for small quantities I ordered from was CQ Concepts Sodium Silicate - CQ Concepts check it out.
Attached is a copy of my invoice .
Mike

@Technomancer - The question is how do you get out the copper in a timely manner?
@Michael - That's awesome you got a gallon for $30! If you try and get it on ebay and it's expensive. Though maybe you could get a gallon for $20 by making it. You can get tons of silica packets and Lye pellets (sodium hydroxide) very cheap through ebay. Which ever way works for us is good. Thanks.

[Michael Kishline]

Sodium Silicate Supplier CQ Concepts

@John B. and Chuck H. ~ I finally know what you mean now by what's in the "Hydrate" Cell. I stumbled upon lidmotor's video by your new channel I found and finally found the formula. Thankyou.
Did you use the same formula for the flooded cell?

@Everyone
I find sodium silicate too expensive to buy, but luckily I stumbled upon this video on how to make it. I think this will help us cut down on costs and get more for our money
Make Sodium Silicate - YouTube

Herbie, that takes way too long in my world, especially if you don't have all the other chemicals to make it.

The cheapest source for small quantities I ordered from was CQ Concepts Sodium Silicate - CQ Concepts check it out.

Attached is a copy of my invoice .

Mike