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  • plengo
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    Originally posted by Allwest View Post
    This cell will do this by itself under the right condition

    Allwest Power cell, new cell - YouTube

    Best of luck
    Yes I see what you mean now. I notice that if the vortex is there it is very difficult for the hydrogen to stick to the surface of the Mg and therefore keeps producing power.

    How did you do that? Can you give more details about how you build your cell?

    Fausto.

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  • CrystalDipoleMatrix
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    Marcus reid cells

    Hi everybody, just want to refresh our brains with the basics of a real crystal battery: Marcus Reid -- Crystal battery.

    My cells gives me about 1ma output when dry no matter what kind of load I put on them. The best power ratio is at 1 volt.

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  • Allwest
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    Originally posted by plengo View Post
    Excellent idea. WE know that crystal grows with shapes when under a magnetic field.

    Fausto.
    This cell will do this by itself under the right condition

    Allwest Power cell, new cell - YouTube

    Best of luck

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  • plengo
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    Originally posted by Allwest View Post
    Plengo,
    Have got it into a magnetic flux vortex yet?
    Excellent idea. WE know that crystal grows with shapes when under a magnetic field.

    Fausto.

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  • Allwest
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    Originally posted by plengo View Post
    Yes. I think you are super right. The tiny cell on my videos (#29,#30) was made from an old piece of Mg that had been touched by the oxides present on Mg pieces that I took from old cells that I dismantled (to look inside the cell).

    That Mg must got contaminated by those oxides and they grow on the whole Mg. Than I put the Copper wire right around and played with the voltage meter on the cell until I notice the voltage spike around 1.25v up to 1.80v.

    Quickly I saw that it was not logical. So I looked for the spot again many times until I found it and quickly I changed the meter from volts to amps and voila, it as giving over 200ma (no idea what voltage).

    I could not believe it so I did not waste time, took the camera and was ready to do it again on camera and the cell worked and there was a lot of light. I recorded the cell running. I was very happy to confess.

    Fausto.

    Plengo,

    I am glad I am not the only one to see 1.80 volts, this is what keeps you going

    Best of luck and more new findings to come

    Have you got it into a magnetic flux vortex yet?
    Last edited by Allwest; 09-26-2012, 03:35 AM.

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  • plengo
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    Originally posted by Allwest View Post
    Plengo,
    One type of secret is forming the oxide layer with copper in contact with Mag

    You need to tap power from new mag, through the oxide layer to the copper

    Best of luck
    Yes. I think you are super right. The tiny cell on my videos (#29,#30) was made from an old piece of Mg that had been touched by the oxides present on Mg pieces that I took from old cells that I dismantled (to look inside the cell).

    That Mg must got contaminated by those oxides and they grow on the whole Mg. Than I put the Copper wire right around and played with the voltage meter on the cell until I notice the voltage spike around 1.25v up to 1.80v.

    Quickly I saw that it was not logical. So I looked for the spot again many times until I found it and quickly I changed the meter from volts to amps and voila, it as giving over 200ma (no idea what voltage).

    I could not believe it so I did not waste time, took the camera and was ready to do it again on camera and the cell worked and there was a lot of light. I recorded the cell running. I was very happy to confess.

    Fausto.

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  • plengo
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    Originally posted by CrystalDipoleMatrix View Post
    It's the black copper oxide that is coated on the mg. When this oxide layer is etablished, the junction from the black to the red oxide create the diode effect. This black layer is protecting the mg from corroding but not everywhere on the mg. If you keep adding very little water once in a while, the ''spotty'' black oxide will be all over the mg and it will stop the corrosion. I am currently searching some infos on the net about the cat whisker and early crystal radio sets. I am sure it's a better way to catch microwaves or something like that to furnish power output. The little water is needed to make the point diode ''nano'' connections. The more the water locked up in the crystal, the more ionic transfer can occur within the 2 electrodes and the more current you get from this process. I'm so happy with my cells too!! The more you play with them (conditioning) the more you get from them.
    hmmmmmm. Very interesting!

    To my frustration i quickly tried making a few bars of Mg have the white oxide. One became white the other became black (the one you describe). The one with white failed badly in generating ANY current but good voltage. The black gave me good current and BAD voltage (GOOD / BAD as a ration between the effect).

    I am realizing that we need both oxides together to make the cell burn the LED with power.

    I could not faithfully repeat the example I showed on my video #30 where the Mg and Copper ONLY would light 3 Leds driven by an oscillator. I must have had some good luck in getting a location on the Mg where the oxide was present and some old alum crystals that grown on the metal where the copper would lightly touch allowing a good amount of power to come out and run the lights.

    Fausto.

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  • Allwest
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    Originally posted by plengo View Post
    This new cell is very tricky. I can sometimes get it to work completely dry and other times I cannot.

    I think it has to do with the oxide layer on the Mg. On my last video (#30) I show that (luck me) straight from the Mg bar being absolutely dry. No tricks anywhere.

    This cell should catch EVERYONEs attention because it is indeed a solid state cell with good power output and obviously to run for the life time of everyone here.

    I still don't know what kind of oxide layer one needs to make it work well.

    Fausto.
    Plengo,
    One type of secret is forming the oxide layer with copper in contact with Mag

    You need to tap power from new mag, through the oxide layer to the copper

    Best of luck
    Last edited by Allwest; 09-26-2012, 12:56 AM.

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  • CrystalDipoleMatrix
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    Originally posted by plengo View Post
    This new cell is very tricky. I can sometimes get it to work completely dry and other times I cannot.

    I think it has to do with the oxide layer on the Mg. On my last video (#30) I show that (luck me) straight from the Mg bar being absolutely dry. No tricks anywhere.

    This cell should catch EVERYONEs attention because it is indeed a solid state cell with good power output and obviously to run for the life time of everyone here.

    I still don't know what kind of oxide layer one needs to make it work well.

    Fausto.
    It's the black copper oxide that is coated on the mg. When this oxide layer is etablished, the junction from the black to the red oxide create the diode effect. This black layer is protecting the mg from corroding but not everywhere on the mg. If you keep adding very little water once in a while, the ''spotty'' black oxide will be all over the mg and it will stop the corrosion. I am currently searching some infos on the net about the cat whisker and early crystal radio sets. I am sure it's a better way to catch microwaves or something like that to furnish power output. The little water is needed to make the point diode ''nano'' connections. The more the water locked up in the crystal, the more ionic transfer can occur within the 2 electrodes and the more current you get from this process. I'm so happy with my cells too!! The more you play with them (conditioning) the more you get from them.
    Last edited by CrystalDipoleMatrix; 09-26-2012, 12:05 AM.

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  • plengo
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    Originally posted by Allwest View Post
    Plengo,

    Some things to try with the new cell (there are many)

    Heat the copper coil several times and dip into a bath of salt water

    Then let the copper get a green oxide on it, I let it stay in a semi sealed container with a little salt water at bottom

    Then install on Mag

    The green oxide acts like a catalyst, it will absorb the hydrogen that is so damaging to these cells and turn it back into water

    I had a video of this but can not find it, you will see the bubbles come up and then be attracted to the green copper

    Best of luck
    This new cell is very tricky. I can sometimes get it to work completely dry and other times I cannot.

    I think it has to do with the oxide layer on the Mg. On my last video (#30) I show that (luck me) straight from the Mg bar being absolutely dry. No tricks anywhere.

    This cell should catch EVERYONEs attention because it is indeed a solid state cell with good power output and obviously to run for the life time of everyone here.

    I still don't know what kind of oxide layer one needs to make it work well.

    Fausto.

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  • Allwest
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    Originally posted by plengo View Post
    and a short (almost short) video showing in more detail how I got the simple shorted cell to work.

    Crystal Cell 30 - YouTube

    Fausto.
    Plengo,

    Some things to try with the new cell (there are many)

    Heat the copper coil several times and dip into a bath of salt water

    Then let the copper get a green oxide on it, I let it stay in a semi sealed container with a little salt water at bottom

    Then install on Mag

    The green oxide acts like a catalyst, it will absorb the hydrogen that is so damaging to these cells and turn it back into water

    I had a video of this but can not find it, you will see the bubbles come up and then be attracted to the green copper

    Best of luck

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  • plengo
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    and a short (almost short) video showing in more detail how I got the simple shorted cell to work.

    Crystal Cell 30 - YouTube

    Fausto.

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  • Allwest
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    Originally posted by plengo View Post
    it is very difficult to get that (shown on the video) correct and working. Once you get it working it continues for a long time without any effects on the Mg or the Copper.

    It feels like the "Cat wisker" diode thingy where one has to find the correct point on the semi-conductor (oxide layer) to get it to work as a diode.

    In this cell you need to play with it for a long time, I mean, long time to get it even close to right. It is far from ready for having a systematic process of replication and documentation.

    Fausto.
    Plengo,

    For more power with this cell, heat the copper wire, bottom half if you can, and dunk into a bath of salt water, then put back on mag

    Best of luck

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  • plengo
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    Originally posted by tachyon View Post
    What do you mean weird?
    it is very difficult to get that (shown on the video) correct and working. Once you get it working it continues for a long time without any effects on the Mg or the Copper.

    It feels like the "Cat wisker" diode thingy where one has to find the correct point on the semi-conductor (oxide layer) to get it to work as a diode.

    In this cell you need to play with it for a long time, I mean, long time to get it even close to right. It is far from ready for having a systematic process of replication and documentation.

    Fausto.

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  • Zardox
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    I made a suggestion on the other forum a few days ago that I believed that the missing ingredient was sodium silicate. As to the fact that I did not get any reply I further assume that is correct and that is the path that I will take.

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