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[tachyon]

What do you mean weird?

[plengo]

my video showing some progress towards the Lead-Alum battery and some interesting weird things about Mg+Copper.

Crystal Cell 29 - YouTube

Fausto.

[Allwest]

Allwest Power Cell

Plengo & All,

I think I have figured out the problem with the voltage on these cells

I am now getting 1.70 volts at the beginning of the cell starting to form

When installing the screw-bolt into the Mag, place a couple of drops of super glue around the connection point

Here is a video on testing with results, this cell does not act like normal batteries, when you place a load on the cell, the amps go up

Allwest Power Cell Testing - YouTube

Also, as a side note, these cells will take a quick charge Allwest power cell charge - YouTube

Best of luck to all

[plengo]

Brad, Lidmotor, Slider

I'm posting another video over on the Energy Science Forum, will be up soon. The impedance of the cell is very important in this application. I think what you guys are saying is that your at the limit of the chemical charge. This is the same thing that will happen to a Lead Acid battery. Anything after the chemical reaches saturation is just going to waste. If someone would sit and work the chemical formula you could see what is going on with the sulphates in the cell. This process almost works like a Lead Acid Cell. It was also found that spacing of the plates is very important. When using used battery plates it's important that the lead oxide is reversed to change the chemical back to sponge lead. This is not your ordinary storage battery impedance wise. I'm still working on the chemical formula and it's strange.
John B

This is very interesting Bedini. Would be possible to manipulate the internal resistance in different points in time under or not load? if that is what I am understanding, it is very, very interesting.

On the crystal cells that I am still playing with also, I do see the resistance of the cell itself is changing dramatically at the moment a load is modified either by adding or removing or changing it and I am talking about instantaneous responses.

And the cells perform an equivalent output of power (specially in amps), caused by the changing load, but those outputs of power are not related to ohms law.

Fausto.

[chuck H]

Image

I was hoping that someone that is a member of the other board (energyscienceforum) could post the chemical32.jpg image that John B posted there in the crystal battery thread (post #130). I signed up as a member, but can't access images or post there yet.

Much appreciated.

Chuck Hupp

[Lidmotor]

A suggestion

@All
On the other forum John Bedini suggested that we go to Youtube and watch some of the excellent videos concerning Hydrates and Ionic chemistry. I stayed up last night until after 2 AM watching and learning. I should have done this two years ago. There are excellent chemistry tutorial videos on Youtube. Hunt for someone who you can understand and does the videos in a way that makes sense. Some of the people are terrible teachers and some are very good. I needed to go all the way back to the basics and start over ---but it was time well spent.

It is just a suggestion. It helped me and maybe it will help someone else who is struggling to understand what is going on in the cell mixtures.

Lidmotor

[b_rads]

@For those doing the lead cells:





I will continue to tinker with these as there are a number of reasons why this might be happening. Such as not forming the plates correctly, the mix is not correct, wrong method of charging, or any other number of reasons, or it could be just a characteristic of the Alum / Lead cell. >>>I do not know<<<


Brad S

[Allwest]

John,
Thanks for your comments, and for having a sense of humor, and for your time on this board

This field is my hobby, many fun things to learn and try (wish I had more time)

Here is one cell that I created, many weird things going on with this cell, it gets about 1.5 amps

If you had time, or any body else, I would appreciate your input on the cause of this vortex,

Allwest Power cell, new cell - YouTube

Best of luck to you and Chuck

Hmmm.

Wavefront, has a guess of a (MAGNETIC FLUX SPIN) on this power cell

Interesting

I guess the next tests is to break out the compass

Best of luck

[DadHav]

Battery / Motor

Hello everyone. I mentioned my little battery conversion earlier so I thought I'd post a few videos. I made another one of those long videos that everyone says I should chop up in smaller clips, so I took a few minutes out of the middle to post here. The first video is the little 1.3 ah battery conversion to alum electrolyte. I'm absolutely sure the formula is not right but it does show that an absolute junk unusable battery can be useful after the conversion. The bulb test on the video is after using the battery for several hours to make the rest of the video.
Alum Batery Conversion - YouTube
I also mentioned having good results with running a stator motor from the alum battery. Actually I had better results with the alum battery than with my motor cycle batteries.
Free Energyy From Generator Coil - YouTube
I have these videos unlisted at this time pending the full video so they may come down soon.
Enjoy
John Hav

[vintasalo]

How to keep the Magnesium from oxidizing

Copper/ Mag cells..

In the cell the negative electrode always oxidizes. Which led me to believe the solution that John B wont release actually does this. I found a car forum speaking about cleaning and preventing, its word for word and this that may help solve this issue. NOT TESTED!!

""""Magnesium and magnesium alloys are extremely chemically active. I’ll keep this as short as I can for this forum. Commercial solutions are available but I’m 8 miles from my hangar at the moment and don’t have the names readily available. The following is from my notes and can be found in the FAA AC 43.13 of September 1998.

If you have a lightly corroded surface you can make up a chemical solution using 24 ounces of Chromium Trioxide and enough distilled water to make one gallon of solution. It will take from 1 to 15 minutes to react. I use a stainless steel pot to mix the solution. Use an acid brush or acid-resistant brush and apply the solution to the corroded area being careful to not allow this solution into cracks or from touching nearby areas you don’t want touched. Masking tape can be used to protect those areas. Allow the solution to remain on the surface for approx 15 minutes using the brush to agitate the solution. Flush clean the area with distilled water and then repeat the above until all the corrosion is removed and you have a bright metallic color.

To treat the clean magnesium to prevent further corrosion you can make up a solution that will convert the magnesium skin as follows using a stainless steel, vinyl, polyethylene, or rubber container: Take 1 gallon of distilled water. Add 1.3 ounces of Chromic ACID (CrO3). Then add 1 ounce of 99.5 pure Calcium Sulfate (CaSo4.2H2O). Mix vigorously for 15 minutes to ensure the solution is saturated with Calcium Sulfate. Wait 15 minutes and transfer the solution to glass polyethylene bottles taking care to not transfer any undissolved Calcium Sulfate. Use this solution in a room temperature of 70-90 degrees F. Apply this solution to the immaculately clean metal surface using a brush, swab, or low pressure non-atomized spray. Keep applying the solution until you get a light to dark brown color free of powder. Rinse with cold running water and air dry. Apply a primer and top coat. If I have to remove metal by file or mill I will clean the surface with MEK or Acetone followed up with the conversion process. Don’t use rubbing alcohol or laquer thinners to clean the surface. MEK or Acetone are “extremely” explosive and bad for you to breathe or get on your skin (the MEK).""""

[b_rads]

H2O2 and ALUM

@all,



I am still using an aqueous solution rather than a gel type electrolyte. Rather than use distilled water to mix with the Alum, I chose to use hydrogen peroxide (medical grade) mixed with the Alum and this allowed a much quicker cell preparation and a much deeper charge than by using the distilled water. I do have some H2O2 that is a higher concentration than the medical grade that I will try later.



All in all, a very good weekend.

Brad S

[br0ns0n77]

Chemical32.jpg

I was hoping that someone that is a member of the other board (energyscienceforum) could post the chemical32.jpg image that John B posted there in the crystal battery thread (post #130). I signed up as a member, but can't access images or post there yet.

Much appreciated.

[Allwest]

LesK,
I love good fun, but I was not kidding when I said this is a tough field. I get accused of allot of things and take allot form individuals on these forums . The one thing I would not do is just give away the formula. I have talked about all that here, go read the other forum, the answer is in front of you. I even posted a picture of the chemical it makes but did not name it. But what it produces I have said many times here. I do understand what your saying, but I have done everything I can, to show what is going on with these effects, I can do no more here on this forum. all the answers are here. And by the way little monkeys do open and close gates in electronics, it called a Transistor, Fets SCR's and so on. This may not be a joke after all.

@ Allwest, it does not make any difference what is said here Ibpointless2 has his own theory and he is entitled to that. It just shows a lack of understanding in the field. He has a section on the other forum to do just what he does, I will not take that away from anybody and either will the Admin. Ibpointless2 is more then welcome to say anything he wants, it's his right.
Have a good day

John,
Thanks for your comments, and for having a sense of humor, and for your time on this board

This field is my hobby, many fun things to learn and try (wish I had more time)

Here is one cell that I created, many weird things going on with this cell, it gets about 1.5 amps

If you had time, or any body else, I would appreciate your input on the cause of this vortex,

Allwest Power cell, new cell - YouTube

Best of luck to you and Chuck

[John_Bedini]

It may not be a joke

LesK,
I love good fun, but I was not kidding when I said this is a tough field. I get accused of allot of things and take allot form individuals on these forums . The one thing I would not do is just give away the formula. I have talked about all that here, go read the other forum, the answer is in front of you. I even posted a picture of the chemical it makes but did not name it. But what it produces I have said many times here. I do understand what your saying, but I have done everything I can, to show what is going on with these effects, I can do no more here on this forum. all the answers are here. And by the way little monkeys do open and close gates in electronics, it called a Transistor, Fets SCR's and so on. This may not be a joke after all.

@ Allwest, it does not make any difference what is said here Ibpointless2 has his own theory and he is entitled to that. It just shows a lack of understanding in the field. He has a section on the other forum to do just what he does, I will not take that away from anybody and either will the Admin. Ibpointless2 is more then welcome to say anything he wants, it's his right.
Have a good day

[Les_K]

DC just isn't what it used to be....

LesK

Yes you had a little monkey in there flipping the switch back and forth.
Not that easy as Salt Sub, Think, what do you do with the Carbon, where is it.

Tesla is Safe. Just can't pick things out of the air.

You know what John; The greatest philosophers the world has known had one ability in common. To say in one sentence what took volumes of books to explain!

I have sat here now for several hours trying to get my thoughts back together after reading this, on how to see what you see. First I thought about the carbon and what Aaron has explained, then the Ferris Wheel and it's interaction to the environment, PN junctions, and the noise all around us. your videos, and how it might all come together. But that last sentence pushes me just to the precipice. You said on the Ferris Wheel thread the only thing holding us back is our minds. And here we are. And my mind feels so small....

Now I see why my SS SSG quit working. When every component was fine. My chart program does not fill the area below the graph because it is looking at oscillations as well. I saw the graph all filled in and thought the software crashed. But that was not it was it?
I now think the battery and SSG went into oscillation and that's why nothing came out on the charging side. Why would the battery go into oscillation? I don't know but I think it is safe to say that the impedance of the battery and my SSG hit resonance somehow.

What's that old saying....Can't see the forest for the trees....Remember...you talked about trees in one of your videos.

in DVD eight Daniel Sheehan talked about a little daemon(Monkey?) opening and closing the gate.
So here we are, looking at the universe through a microscope.

It seems the SSG is not what we think because the battery is not what we think either.

I don't quite understand John, but I am working on it. I will be pondering this for a while...

Les