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  • Sawt2
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    Originally posted by CrystalDipoleMatrix View Post
    Thanks Allwest! Very appreciated.
    I think that John B has already divulged that info.
    Others can correct me if I am wrong.
    I thought I remember it being sodium silicate.
    Brian

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  • CrystalDipoleMatrix
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    Thanks Allwest! Very appreciated.

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  • Allwest
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    Originally posted by CrystalDipoleMatrix View Post
    Please go ahead Allwest. BTW I have not replicated your chili and silicone grease cell yet because of the chemical content of the ingredients (too many variables to manipulate yet to prove ''free energy''). I want to better understand the Alum cell first. Is this a secret for the gelatinous composition of Alum in the Lead-Alum cell?? Thks. Jean.

    CDM,

    I have yet to try this with alum but it does crystallize fast


    Hot Ice or Sodium Acetate - Make Hot Ice or Sodium Acetate from Vinegar and Baking Soda

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  • CrystalDipoleMatrix
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    Please go ahead Allwest. BTW I have not replicated your chili and silicone grease cell yet because of the chemical content of the ingredients (too many variables to manipulate yet to prove ''free energy''). I want to better understand the Alum cell first. Is this a secret for the gelatinous composition of Alum in the Lead-Alum cell?? Thks. Jean.

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  • Allwest
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    secret mix

    Secret mix

    I think I came up with the secret mix that JB used in the alum water

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  • Allwest
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    Originally posted by cgalvisardila View Post
    completely agreed, the last cells i did were based on bedini's design Mg Cu, with alum and a bit of cream of tartar... they have been going non stop for 5 months now and they seem to get better with time, the Mg is almost intact, just a grey layer around it. the best one i have is lasting 7-9 days with no water!! these are real winners, cheers
    What kind of power are you getting on this cell with and without water?

    Best of luck

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  • cgalvisardila
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    Originally posted by CrystalDipoleMatrix View Post
    Hi, just to post a quick update. I made a cell with magnesium rod and heat treated copper twisted wires a couple days ago. The mix: alum, water, grinded iron pyrite and little bit of sodium silicate. I cut a piece of coffee filter to absorb the liquid gray mix and put it around the magnesium rod. I taped the copper around the mag and that's it. In the first hours, the cell was gassing a little bit but now I hear nothing coming from the cell and it put some good light output from the joule thief circuit. 1 ma and 1.25v for now. It needs water to grow crystals and output power. It's like a plant. I know it will grow in good lasting power output in the long run. The crystal cell needs some care to do it right. It needs conditioning. I think the mag will eventualy turn black and be completly protected from corrosion, just like my mag/copper ground battery. Yes you can do a static cell just like Ibpointless does that doesn't needs water but you can't do anything practical with it. The Ibpointless cell act like a captret. The Bedini's cells are WATER FUEL CELLS with a static component when dry. We need more cash, research and peoples on this crystal thing. It's the future in battery technologies but we need to know how to improve the power density of these cells without destroying the source dipole.

    completely agreed, the last cells i did were based on bedini's design Mg Cu, with alum and a bit of cream of tartar... they have been going non stop for 5 months now and they seem to get better with time, the Mg is almost intact, just a grey layer around it. the best one i have is lasting 7-9 days with no water!! these are real winners, cheers

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  • CrystalDipoleMatrix
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    Alum cell is a winner

    Hi, just to post a quick update. I made a cell with magnesium rod and heat treated copper twisted wires a couple days ago. The mix: alum, water, grinded iron pyrite and little bit of sodium silicate. I cut a piece of coffee filter to absorb the liquid gray mix and put it around the magnesium rod. I taped the copper around the mag and that's it. In the first hours, the cell was gassing a little bit but now I hear nothing coming from the cell and it put some good light output from the joule thief circuit. 1 ma and 1.25v for now. It needs water to grow crystals and output power. It's like a plant. I know it will grow in good lasting power output in the long run. The crystal cell needs some care to do it right. It needs conditioning. I think the mag will eventualy turn black and be completly protected from corrosion, just like my mag/copper ground battery. Yes you can do a static cell just like Ibpointless does that doesn't needs water but you can't do anything practical with it. The Ibpointless cell act like a captret. The Bedini's cells are WATER FUEL CELLS with a static component when dry. We need more cash, research and peoples on this crystal thing. It's the future in battery technologies but we need to know how to improve the power density of these cells without destroying the source dipole.

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  • plengo
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    and one more video showing more details about corrosion on this cell: Crystal Cell 7 - Corrosion ? I think not - YouTube

    I think that there is very minimal if no corrosion.

    Fausto.

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  • plengo
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    just sharing my findings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGat...2&feature=plcp

    Fausto.

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  • Allwest
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    Dry Crystall cell

    To All,

    Just some thoughts

    Are these Crystal cells just a form of a TEG device

    Also this explains why when we connect a load on these cells, the power drops and them goes up when the load is connected (heating the cell)

    Kind of a self generating, self charging heat power for the TEG

    On my cell, it is the copper that needs the heat, and the mag cold, and shebang it goes up to 500Ma

    Best of luck

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  • CrystalDipoleMatrix
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    Thank you so much allwest. I will report to all how these cells does in the long run.

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  • Allwest
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    Originally posted by CrystalDipoleMatrix View Post
    Please show me how to do this dry cell. I want to replicate. Thank you.
    This was one of my oldest cells, that is still working, you may laugh, others have, but it is still working

    The volts have gone up over time, and the amps have gone down over time

    Allwest power cell # 6 - YouTube

    Silicone grease layer over mag

    Grind some quartz, dust cover over the grease

    Install in copper sleeve, and place chili powder around mag

    After this I added water and let it dry out

    Best of luck, and let me know how it turned out

    Note: this cell takes a long time to dry out before it starts acting like a crystal cell.....7-10 days
    Last edited by Allwest; 11-25-2012, 01:02 AM.

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  • CrystalDipoleMatrix
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    Originally posted by Allwest View Post
    Note: this dry cell will not die, no matter how long I short this, it still comes back with about 1.40 volts and 5.8 Ma start reading
    Interesting, but not sure what we can do with this small amount of power


    But the very interesting note to this cell, is I can get it up to about 500Ma, using a technique that is non-galvanic

    Best of luck

    Please show me how to do this dry cell. I want to replicate. Thank you.

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  • Allwest
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    Originally posted by plengo View Post
    Thank you for the measurements. Yes now it makes sense to me. I think your cell is giving about 0.05volts with 2ma which is pretty much what I would expect from a dry cell. Unfortunately the internal resistance is so high that to run something makes it very difficult.

    Putting many in series will not work well, BUT, putting many in parallel with many parallel LEDS will work like a charm.

    Fausto.
    Note: this dry cell will not die, no matter how long I short this, it still comes back with about 1.40 volts and 5.8 Ma start reading
    Interesting, but not sure what we can do with this small amount of power


    But the very interesting note to this cell, is I can get it up to about 500Ma, using a technique that is non-galvanic

    Best of luck

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