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  • pmgriphone
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    BLMickey, clearly for some reason you don't want to understand what people are explaining to you, or your brain power simply doesn't allow for it. Maybe your brain is functioning on Thane's principles. That would explain why it doesn't work.

    So I will give you another easier to understand reason why Thane doesn't have anything that provides free energy. If he did, he would have managed to build something that actually doesn't require any input power or something that would run forever in loopback mode.

    After almost 20 years, he still hasn't shown us anything like that. None of his videos show that either. He is always charging a battery or showing how much prime driver input decreases, yet he never measures how much power his setup is consuming and how much he is getting out. If he did, he would find that he is taking more out of the system than what he is putting back in.

    This should be the least difficult argument for you to fathom. If your brain can't even cope with that, I think you need to go have it examined by someone as none of us will be able to help you.

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  • BroMikey
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    Now if you want to know where the ship sinks look at this video like a goat staring at a new fence.

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  • BroMikey
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    This is it, so simple that a junior high school student can understand it. You older guys need to shake all of that baggage. You are running out of time so I am using the hammer.eat all of it, enjoy the board talk, cuss later.

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  • BroMikey
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    Here is the original work horse.

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by pmgriphone View Post

    Thane makes the exact same mistake again. .
    When you get time show us all where the mistakes are. You mean the mercury or the work energy principle? What exact is it that Faraday left out? Faraday is the foundation and he said dot to dot shown by Thane in the video, right out of your text book. You can't change the Faraday rules or laws.
    the mistake? Yes there was a mistake with the laws Faraday produced stating that 100% of the electrical power is consumed by heat.

    What is there to prove? Same thing BYE says about cogging at speed, all done at no extra cost. Faraday's motor calculations are the basis of all of our more advanced math. Completely false. Faraday noted that when a magnet was introduced into the mercury that this did show work being done by the rotation and without the magnet none but nothing changed as far as the energy burning up as heat. Field or no field the calculation did not change the joule burning math. Therefore when the field was clearly there interacting and doing work, this work was done without a calculation or ignored, all done free of charge because only joule burning was counted.


    So what;s the big toot? Michael Faraday said so it must be right. Right? That is what he concluded. Look in the book, what was your question?

    Last edited by BroMikey; 06-18-2021, 10:29 AM.

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  • pmgriphone
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    Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
    By the way Michael Faraday was self taught, he was not an EE, yet Thane in his 4th year EE student was thrown out for his discoveries that conflicted with science models today. Of course everywhere we read Thane is a college drop out flunky who was almost done with his degree in his 20's like most young boys are able to do when he was driven out. After 20 year was somehow unable to achieve the few weeks needed to have his shingle EE, I don't think he wants anyway, not from these crooks.
    Thane makes the exact same mistake again. He doesn't realize that a moving wire around a magnet will cause a CEMF in the wire.

    Bromey, you keep on posting all this stuff. If you really want to convince us, why don't you do the experiment that Thanes describes and do the power measurements with and without the magnet and you will see that the consumed power is different for the two cases due to the generated CEMF. And don't use a battery, use a power supply instead.so the supply voltage remains constant.

    Since you are so sure that Thane is right, why don't you do the experiment and show us the numbers. If you can really show the numbers are different, then you will have a point. But until you show us that, it's is just another post with more of the same you know what.

    And so you will either prove we are wrong, or YOU are wrong and then all these posts can end.
    Last edited by pmgriphone; 06-18-2021, 07:19 AM.

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  • Rakarskiy
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    At one time (in the twentieth century, back in the USSR) a physicist from Novosibirsk said wise words to me. The science of physics (rather the laws ... that it describes) is a library of different concepts. Real physics is physics that engineers take over, turning it into technology. And it doesn't matter energetically or in substance.

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  • BroMikey
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    By the way Michael Faraday was self taught, he was not an EE, yet Thane in his 4th year EE student was thrown out for his discoveries that conflicted with science models today. Of course everywhere we read Thane is a college drop out flunky who was almost done with his degree in his 20's like most young boys are able to do when he was driven out. After 20 year was somehow unable to achieve the few weeks needed to have his shingle EE, I don't think he wants anyway, not from these crooks.

    In this video we see the inescapable reality of how Faraday's motor operated and calculations are made today. Faraday's motor did negative work in the form of the magnetic field while 100% of the electricity was completely burnt out in heat energy.

    Michael Faraday's motor and mercury bath experiment here.


    Last edited by BroMikey; 06-18-2021, 04:05 AM.

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  • BroMikey
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    Shooting down the standard model in physics flaw due to old theories when the electromagnetic component is ignored. So many flawed parallels and broken pathways to connect dot dot in science. We are told you will understand later, another lie. Laws that don't work. 9 minutes shattering the entire science community foundations. Go Thane.

    Last edited by BroMikey; 06-18-2021, 04:18 AM.

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  • BroMikey
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    http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...c/watcir3.html

    Thane Heins relates the advice of a professor "Our Motors and Generators Concepts professor in college always warned us students to stay away from the 'water' analogy which tends to lead us astray because it fails to take into account the magnetic field energy produced around all current bearing wires and especially the work this energy does when producing the counter-electromotive-torque/work produced inside all electric generators and the change in kinetic energy of the system this work performs when generators are placed on-load."





    Last edited by BroMikey; 06-18-2021, 02:18 AM.

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  • Rakarskiy
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    Originally posted by Quantum_well View Post
    Rakarskiy, I'm an old man and have been a manual worker. It's only in the last few years have I studied this sort of thing (the Internet is awesome). Having had a quick look it seems that "spin" is going to be involved.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_electrodynamics
    Although I'm riddled with arthritis I can still manage a bit of digging., Bro will laugh, I planted a lovely row of beans and peas and two days later a bird demolished the lot. Luckily I have a fencing company and have access to copious amounts of wire netting and I'm getting everything protected.
    When I was getting my engineering degree in the 80s of the last century, our curator told us the following: “... The symbol of higher education is unchanged. independent study of the new and fundamental ... ". I think self-study is the most important thing for anyone who wants to master knowledge. But the information you want to get is not always true, you need to be able to separate the grain from the spit. I also love to babysit my grandson, but my wealth is my family and my knowledge.

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  • Quantum_well
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    Rakarskiy, I'm an old man and have been a manual worker. It's only in the last few years have I studied this sort of thing (the Internet is awesome). Having had a quick look it seems that "spin" is going to be involved.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_electrodynamics
    Although I'm riddled with arthritis I can still manage a bit of digging., Bro will laugh, I planted a lovely row of beans and peas and two days later a bird demolished the lot. Luckily I have a fencing company and have access to copious amounts of wire netting and I'm getting everything protected. IMG_20210617_110028.jpg

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  • Quantum_well
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    Rakarskiy, thank you for that insight. I'm no expert so it will be a project for me to research. I basically see what you're getting at, John.

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  • Rakarskiy
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    Originally posted by Quantum_well View Post

    We know the mechanics of motor/generator operation. As for how nature does these things I think is still a mystery.
    Would you agree with my post 1763?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relati...ectromagnetism
    It is impossible to deny the obvious knowledge that has been shaped by centuries of research. But I do not agree with the Lorentz force, it is practically the opposite of the Ampere force. In this case, where does the electric charge (q) come from, if the process of formation of an electric vortex field is the result of friction of magnetic fields (more precisely, their spiral lines of force). For example, a strong magnetic field striking a ferromagnet (iron wire), a paramagnet (aluminum wire), a diamagnet (copper wire). Here is the pure mechanics of the spiral lines of force of these fields. EMF is a consequence, and electric current (magnetic field of a vortex ring) is a consequence of electrostatic induction in a conductor. Personally, I leave this position to myself.
    Last edited by Rakarskiy; 06-17-2021, 08:28 AM.

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  • Quantum_well
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    Originally posted by Rakarskiy View Post
    You are wrong when you roll the dice for all of science. Science is never unscientific; the media do it. Unfortunately, the mainstream general education system is also not conducive to enlightenment. Basic education is special. For example, how a generator works, a student and a future designer are taught different concepts. Believe, for example, how the current is injected into the generator core in detail, none of the most advanced scientists will tell you. All we know is that it appears there when the magnetic force changes. For frequent seekers, having almost reached their goal, but following stereotypes, they abandon their knowledge, never realizing what they did wrong. Usually, many professional electricians, when I asked them to calculate the EMF of the gas generator phase with a connected load of 1 kW and an operating voltage of 220 volts, looked at me like an idiot. If you know how to calculate, you will already know exactly what is happening there, at least by the gradation of parameters.
    We know the mechanics of motor/generator operation. As for how nature does these things I think is still a mystery.
    Would you agree with my post 1763?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relati...ectromagnetism

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