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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by pmgriphone View Post

    brought this up multiple times.

    The experiment that needs to be done is running the prime mover with no coils near the rotor and then repeat it with a coil near the rotor. .
    Then do it. However in my never ending mercy for willful ignorance let me again point out that a 3 coil experiment using the same approx PM watts was already shown to you of which you refuse to see. Keep in mind this experiment is a single coil and the other video uses 3 of these same coils, showing the PM input (a very expensive scope) breaks even. Thane states that more is going back to the battery than is being taken. This video I am talking about is his E-BIKE testing where the only power source is the on board set of batteries. Now do I need to write it in magic marker on your forehead? I know i seem harsh. Are you heart broken or just house broken?I like to BS

    Just kidding you guys are really smart and the best minds i have seen in a while. Keep looking. The video's take time to sink in and are hard to hear over the noise. I was much the same way at first wondering what Thane was talking about. I think it was 420watts with 3 coils but I would have to look that figure up. I do know sometimes under the right conditions that more went back to the battery with ONLY the 3 coil run. There are a few video demo's where this happened and they were not all the same setup. Go to his youtube and study. And if I see those I will post them again for the 30th time since you are finally catching on. That is the only way, trust me, this ain't easy to sort out when you have mind-freeze

    BTW did you see this? I posted it a million times. He must have a secret cord i hear ya, you guys never change.

    Last edited by BroMikey; 07-19-2021, 09:58 AM.

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  • pmgriphone
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    Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
    Maybe so but that is not the only point. A 360watt PM of a magnet rotor with 12 coils at 60watts each equals how much? |Or how about 24 coils? At which point each added coil reducing the PM input 20-30watt each, how much?

    385w will say minus 15w reduction PM input for 24coils = 360w reduction from 385w

    Each coil generates 60w X 24coil = 1440w

    Care to take this question? I guess you are uncomfortable with the data.
    Brodummy, you are getting back into your old habits.

    Thane has one coil near the rotor. Adding more coils is going to consume more power from the prime mover. Again, these are capacitive coils in which internal current flows even if the external leads are not connected. Not sure how many times this needs to be repeated before it enters your brain. You make that mistake and so does Thane. Bi has also already brought this up multiple times.

    The experiment that needs to be done is running the prime mover with no coils near the rotor and then repeat it with a coil near the rotor. You will see that there is a difference: more power is required from the prime mover if a coil is near the rotor.

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by pmgriphone View Post

    The grey box with turn knob on top that you see is the variac he is using to drive his primer mover and to adjust its speed.
    Maybe so but that is not the only point. A 360watt PM of a magnet rotor with 12 coils at 60watts each equals how much? |Or how about 24 coils? At which point each added coil reducing the PM input 20-30watt each, how much?

    385w will say minus 15w reduction PM input for 24coils = 360w reduction from 385w

    Each coil generates 60w X 24coil = 1440w

    Care to take this question? I guess you are uncomfortable with the data.

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  • pmgriphone
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    Originally posted by BroMikey View Post

    If this is true (maybe so) why does the battery drop down from 12v to 11v when started up and loaded? This video is unclear to me. I don't think this video was produced to show O U powering everything on a few coils.

    It is hard to say.Why would a 12 v battery go from 12v to 11v then charge at 15v going down the road?

    Either way the point being made is that the new coils generate more than the old designs while reducing PM power, not doubling or tripling the PM input when a demand is put on it. A 360watt PM of a magnet rotor with 12 coils at 60watts each equals how much? |Or how about 24 coils? At which point each added coil reducing the PM input 20-30watt each, how much?
    Not sure what you are on BLMey, but the first time the voltmeter is shown is here

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    After that, Thane shortly connects his coil to the battery, jumping its battery voltage up to 16V, then he switches his coil off again and the voltage drops back down (as it wants to go back to the 11.08V charge that it originally had).

    Also, the only other thing that is hooked up to the battery plus pole is a small gauge red wire. That wire couldn't even carry 385W/11.08V=35A of current if it were to drive the prime mover. This is again proof he is not driving his prime mover with the battery.

    The grey box with turn knob on top that you see is the variac he is using to drive his primer mover and to adjust its speed.

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  • BroMikey
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    Yeah let us see how much. 385w will say minus 15w reduction PM input for 24coils = 360w reduction from 385w

    Each coil generates 60w X 24coil = 1440w. How much OU?

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