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[chuck H]

Experiment

@ Jim and all: try to make a wet cell with copper zinc and magnieum sulfate. What happens to the zinc? You can use distiller water or tap.

[chuck H]

Conductors and semiconductors

Allen,
Thanks for the photo and Chuck for the responses to be sure. So is the photo of the inside without the wax or is it just an infinitely thin wax coating?
Open Atmosphere killing a Reid Cell has me intrigued.
Is that due to the fantastically fast and tenacious oxide layer that forms on Aluminum in picoseconds that would kill the circuit like anodizing or is it due to evaporative loss of the lattice hydration? I know there is a layer on the aluminum that is not just Al02. The silicate layer integrates into the Al correct?
This is perhaps what I am seeing with the ZnO silicate? Perhaps. More work on the bench I know. Thanks again for any insights.
Chuck et al, drive safe.
Jim

@ Jim and all: is Aluminium a conductor or semiconductor? Can Aluminium be made into a semiconductor?
Yes oxide layer is the issue.

[jehdds]

@jehdds,

Here's a picture of Marcus's Sodium Silicate cell after 3 years of constant use.

Allen,
Thanks for the photo and Chuck for the responses to be sure. So is the photo of the inside without the wax or is it just an infinitely thin wax coating?
Open Atmosphere killing a Reid Cell has me intrigued.
Is that due to the fantastically fast and tenacious oxide layer that forms on Aluminum in picoseconds that would kill the circuit like anodizing or is it due to evaporative loss of the lattice hydration? I know there is a layer on the aluminum that is not just Al02. The silicate layer integrates into the Al correct?
This is perhaps what I am seeing with the ZnO silicate? Perhaps. More work on the bench I know. Thanks again for any insights.
Chuck et al, drive safe.
Jim

[chuck H]

Reid cell

So the fluid is recycled within the lattice right?

Has a Reid Cell ever had the wax removed to see if the functionality would remain under load testing?

Have you guys ever been able to place them in a hyperbaric environment to see if output increases? I have done this and it does improve output by increasing the partial pressure of water vapor that is able to be incorporated into the lattice perhaps.

Jim

@ Jim and all: Atmosphere will kill an open Reid cell very quickly as his cells use Aluminium.

[Allen Burgess]

Reid cell.

@jehdds,

Here's a picture of Marcus's Sodium Silicate cell after 3 years of constant use.

[chuck H]

The rock

Chuck, are you guys looking for a specific subcategory ROCK type or Rock Category as in Sedimentary Rock?
Jim

@ Jim and all: The latter of the 2
The iPad 2 and the droid communicate fine but the droid and the towers due not as I'm on the road in the north Idaho mountains when I get to my motel I will check back with the group.

[jehdds]

@ ib2
They are sealed with wax and are not liquid

So the fluid is recycled within the lattice right?

Has a Reid Cell ever had the wax removed to see if the functionality would remain under load testing?

Have you guys ever been able to place them in a hyperbaric environment to see if output increases? I have done this and it does improve output by increasing the partial pressure of water vapor that is able to be incorporated into the lattice perhaps.

Jim

[ibpointless2]

@ ib2
They are sealed with wax and are not liquid

Ok, Thank you for the quick response.

[jehdds]

@ All, most answers are partially correct. What rock contains most of these answers?

Chuck, are you guys looking for a specific subcategory ROCK type or Rock Category as in Sedimentary Rock?
Jim

[chuck H]

Reid cell

@ ib2
They are sealed with wax and are not liquid

[chuck H]

Answers

Guys, John and Chuck,
Any more thoughts on the Quiz from John we had yesterday?
I could not sleep. Any correct answers to guess the rock?
Are we even close?
Very Best Regards,
Jim

@ All, most answers are partially correct. What rock contains most of these answers?

[ibpointless2]

@John Bedini,

Do the Marcus Reid cells sound and feel like they contain a liquid? Is the cell sealed off?

Thank You.

[jehdds]

Guys, John and Chuck,
Any more thoughts on the Quiz from John we had yesterday?
I could not sleep. Any correct answers to guess the rock?
Are we even close?
Very Best Regards,
Jim

[jehdds]

Guys,
The postage stamp size PGS Graphene pile battery is at 25 hours.
The magnesium was prepared in the usual manner to electro deposit the mix of ZnO, Epsoms, Galina, Iron Pyrite etc. The strip was bench dry and untouched for about a week before assembly. Assembly consisted of taking the Mg and coating with a paint of the following mix: LiClO4, ZnO and Silica gel, all ground to a very fine powder in a mortar and pestle. A very small amount of water was added to make a paint. This layer was then covered with the graphene PGS sheet that matched the size of the Mg layer. I then sandwiched the cells between two graphite blocks to ensure uniformity to the layer. The cells were then BRIEFLY polarized with LOW AMP 16V, like for a second or two. After this step, I measured the output of the cell and each produced between 1.47 and 1.58 volts. I assembled into a series pile and sandwiched the cells in a small vice and started the oscillator. The voltage of the pile was only 4V. 2000uA or so. Again the thickness of the electrolyte is VERY VERY VERY thin. See below photo. The white you see on the edge is the thickness of the Mg with the coating of the pretreatment layer only. You cannot see the painted electrolyte. It was compressed and perhaps is about as thick as the graphene sheet itself. The volume of fluid here is not that great during assembly, and I have a suspicion, it should have been evaporated by now or it is being recycled in the functioning of the cell itself. Perhaps if I would have let this dry out FIRST, it may not be optimal. I hope to run it dead, and let it rest to see what happens. If it needs to be "fed" a smidgen of fluid, I will do this multiple times to see what happens to the Mg. This cell at least is EASY to take apart to see the status of the Mg. It will be interesting to see how long it takes for the oscillator to begin to blink. For now it is still "on."
The cell does appear to be thermally sensitive. After putting on the overhead light at my work bench, the cell appeared just a bit brighter than when I arrived. My basement is VERY dry but cold. Very Best Regards,
Jim

[John_Bedini]

Hydrate

To All,
Again, Combining a Heptahydrate with a Hydrate. Sodium Silicate is not what you want as it is already a liquid, if you look at the hydrates of Sodium Silicate we find many, you want crystals that melt. In the melting process you add the aluminum or magnesium grains to form this new crystal structure. Once you have this you add it to the Heptahydrate and add the doping to the mix. The doping can be Magnesium Grains. Aluminum Grains, Silver Grains, Glena Grains, Copper Grains, Iron Pyrite Grains. Quarts and so on depending what your going for. It is best to stick with materials that are the same as the electrodes, especially the negative one as that is the one that will give you trouble. When the cell is first put together you will notice some corrosion and this will stop after some time so it is important that the copper has an oxide layer of red or black oxide. In my cells I use a couple drops of water every two or three months as I just use them for lighting with the oscillator. Go Back and watch John H as he uses the salts melted, I do not agree with his explanation of where the energy is coming from but the mix is very useful to the group especially when combined with a Hydrate.
John B