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[chuck H]

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@ jehdds and all:
No

[jehdds]

How bout limestone.
Jim

[jehdds]

@ jehdds and all:

No. It is not Gypsum/ Selenite

Rats...
Back to wheel of fortune....

Any other hints?
Jim

[chuck H]

Gypsum/Selenite

@ jehdds and all:

No. It is not Gypsum/ Selenite

[chuck H]

Series and parallel

@ jehdds and all:
Yes impedance is the issue in series. In parallel the current is additive in the sealed cells. The lamp in my last post has a cell that John built in one box that is actually 2 cells in 1 unit in parallel. The oscillator circuit makes up the voltage. If you series/ parallel 4 cells then you will get the voltage and current. The new sealed cells are at 2 volts and under the load of the oscillator they hold .92 volts.

@ all: Sorry if i don't get to every question and answer it.

[jehdds]

Ibpointless,
What do think the compound is? to get magnesium silicate you would need to cook this over time dissolving the magnesium grains and it would start the reaction all by itself.
After you have that compound you can re-melt it with the Epsom Salts by adding a little water to form a Magnesium Hydrate and the fill the cell.
You need to find out what you have made, if you look at it under a microscope you will see just what material it is. It has mimicked a rock that is mined and used everywhere. I'm not going to say what it is at this time as I want to see if the group can tell me what it is.
John B

Alex,
I'll take building materials for 1000.....
What is gypsum?

Jim

[John_Bedini]

It has mimicked a rock

Ibpointless,
What do think the compound is? to get magnesium silicate you would need to cook this over time dissolving the magnesium grains and it would start the reaction all by itself.
After you have that compound you can re-melt it with the Epsom Salts by adding a little water to form a Magnesium Hydrate and then fill the cell.
You need to find out what you have made, if you look at it under a microscope you will see just what material it is. It has mimicked a rock that is mined and used everywhere. I'm not going to say what it is at this time as I want to see if the group can tell me what it is.
John B

[ibpointless2]

if you add carbon it will improve tremendously. You will get around 1.7v and above 10ma. The epson salts will suck water from the air though as time passes.

Fausto.

yeah i was think the same thing about the Epsom salt will absorb water from the air but something else is happening. The cell keeps loosing power. If the cell was using water as the median than the amps would stay the same or go up. So if the Epsom salt was absorbing water from the air than the cell would still be holding its amps or going up in amps but its not. Since the cell is going down in power then I would assume its loosing its water content. The cell is still above 1.5 volts @ ~3mA.

You also must keep in mind that when I combine the Epsom salt with the sodium silicate it became some very different now. Its a magnesium-silicate-sulfate compound now.

[plengo]

I just combined Sodium Silicate and Epsom salt into one mix, cooked it till it stop bubbling and stuck my electrodes in. After letting the cell cool for 15 minutes I getting a whooping 1.662v @ 5.50mA!

Combining Sodium silicate and Epsom salt together makes a new material that looks and feels like my crystal glue cells. Timing did seem important, too much and the cell was useless and too little and the cell was hard to work with. I think i should have cooked it for a little longer though, but it being my first one I consider it good enough. I'll have a picture below to show you what it looks like.

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if you add carbon it will improve tremendously. You will get around 1.7v and above 10ma. The epson salts will suck water from the air though as time passes.

Fausto.

[ibpointless2]

IB,
Was that liquid Sodium silicate?
Thanks for the update.
Jim

Yes it was a liquid Sodium silicate with Epsom salt added to it, turned it into a paste and then I heated it till it stop bubbling and then inserted magnesium electrode.

[jehdds]

I just combined Sodium Silicate and Epsom salt into one mix, cooked it till it stop bubbling and stuck my electrodes in. After letting the cell cool for 15 minutes I getting a whooping 1.662v @ 5.50mA!

Combining Sodium silicate and Epsom salt together makes a new material that looks and feels like my crystal glue cells. Timing did seem important, too much and the cell was useless and too little and the cell was hard to work with. I think i should have cooked it for a little longer though, but it being my first one I consider it good enough. I'll have a picture below to show you what it looks like.

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IB,
Was that liquid Sodium silicate?
Thanks for the update.
Jim

[ibpointless2]

I just combined Sodium Silicate and Epsom salt into one mix, cooked it till it stop bubbling and stuck my electrodes in. After letting the cell cool for 15 minutes I getting a whooping 1.662v @ 5.50mA!

Combining Sodium silicate and Epsom salt together makes a new material that looks and feels like my crystal glue cells. Timing did seem important, too much and the cell was useless and too little and the cell was hard to work with. I think i should have cooked it for a little longer though, but it being my first one I consider it good enough. I'll have a picture below to show you what it looks like.

[jehdds]

John, Chuck and all,
QUESTION.....
Will true crystal cells be additive in series arrangement with respect to voltage as galvanic cells are? What about Current? Do the same calculations apply to their use?
From my latest experiments, this seems not to be the case. There is some loss in series. I assume the impedance is the issue. Is that correct? I sincerely appreciate your perspective on this.
I ask is relation to your silicate based cells as well as the elusive glass type.
Very Best Regards,
Jim

[mikrovolt]

This is really hot news !
Chuck and John have a new release I want support them in kicking off the the best practical crystal cell kit that is available.
This announcement is something millions of people need to become aware of
This is a new technology and not a magic trick. Not just Crystal Cell but also uses awesome Bedini electronics.
I hope public acceptance grows at one of those internet accelerated rates. Momentum baby !

Frzn water, John has made recommendation to IBpointless on how to improve using pure magnesium and he explained the hepta hydrate.
You can build on the experimentation of many of the guys just to mention a few. Jehdds work is way ahead of its time
and Plengo's adaptation is exceptional. People please be careful to speak positively and truthfully because I noticed this thread
is now picked up on all major search engines within hours of your post, thankyou.

The Crystal Cell is really here, Just think what will happen as more people start assembling this latest kit !

[ibpointless2]

I stumbled upon something that made me think, "why didn't i use this in start?". I picked up some Metal Polish, it says it cleans and protects metals such as copper and magnesium. Its a liquid and when I stick my two electrodes in it I get 1.6volts @ about 50uA. So then I place some Epsom salt into the mix and I was getting over 500uA. Using Metal polish makes sense, its job is to clean and protect the metal so one would think corrosion will be put at bay. It makes me wonder what is in Metal polish that makes it protect metals? A strip of magnesium survived over night submerged in the metal polish with Epsom salt so it does look like its trying to protect the metal.