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[John_Bedini]

Secret" from you

@John Bedini,

There would no longer be any trace of Sodium Hydroxide in the new sodiummetasilikat compound after the molecular bonding with the Sodium Silicate. Marcus Reid has witheld the "Secret" from you. These Crystal Power Cells were developed by chemists in Germany, and used to power rocket gyros. I worked with the Penemunde group scientists on our "Colonies In Space" project from Princeton University with Brian O'Leary. The old "Von Braun" group liked to gab. Sodiummetasilikat is a German word. That's why Nerdrage has trouble pronouncing it in his video.

Mr. Burgess,
This was discussed with me by one of Marcus's investors. Marcus told me how to build the cell but the compound was not available in the Unites States to do the cell right. Marcus supplied me with all the data to make this cell and the material along with sample cells. Most of the chemicals I could get from chemical stores. I have seen the experimental results of the material as I was directed by Marcus. It was understood up front not to withhold any secrets or that would be it. As for where the energy is coming from I know where and have been able to use it with any crystal cell, but not at any high power level. The power cells need to be refined to a simple method for manufacturing or it is useless to compete with standard batteries in the field. I have given the group four time now the answer about the hydrates and how you do it. Where is the information your claiming here about where the Crystal power cells running Gyros located as I'm sure we would all like to read this, or is it just hearsay.
John B

[jehdds]

@John Bedini,

There would no longer be any trace of Sodium Hydroxide in the new sodiummetasilikat compound after the molecular bonding with the Sodium Silicate. Marcus Reid has witheld the "Secret" from you. These Crystal Power Cells were developed by chemists in Germany, and used to power rocket gyros. I worked with the Penemunde group scientists on our "Colonies In Space" project from Princeton University with Brian O'Leary. The old "Von Braun" group liked to gab. Sodiummetasilikat is a German word. That's why Nerdrage has trouble pronouncing it in his video.

Allen,
Ok,
Here is the stuff in reagent form. Have you successfully replicated MR Cells?
Did you cook it as the video to make it or did you use the crystal material to start with? Please share if you have sorted it out. If you have, why wait till now to share this? I understand that John is on Non disclosure. I respect that. Any other recipes that we should replicate?

Sodium meta-Silicate, Nonahydrate, Crystal, Reagent * 13517-24-3

Very Best Regards,
Jim

[Allen Burgess]

@John Bedini,

There would no longer be any trace of Sodium Hydroxide in the new sodiummetasilikat compound after the molecular bonding with the Sodium Silicate. Marcus Reid has witheld the "Secret" from you. These Crystal Power Cells were developed by chemists in Germany, and used to power rocket gyros. I worked with the Penemunde group scientists on our "Colonies In Space" project from Princeton University with Brian O'Leary. The old "Von Braun" group liked to gab. Sodiummetasilikat is a German word. That's why Nerdrage has trouble pronouncing it in his video.

[chuck H]

Compatibility

I started a very basic experiment tonight. I have some 1/4 inch copper disks left over from a homopolar generator experiment. I placed it into a platic bowl. Cover it in Alum crystals. Wet it thoroughly with a mixture of water, Epsom salt, a salt substitute and alum boiled together till saturation occurred. Then I placed a magnesium fire starting block on top of the wet alum. AT first nothing happened. I left it to sit a few minutes while i was attending to something else. I noticed a popping sound coming from the bowl. I'm talking louder than rice crispies cereal. I pulled magnesium block out and the side contacting the alum is completely dark. And bubbling where it was making contact. Any ideas?

@ redrichie: those salts are not compatable. On the race car PH table I think you just went from 0-7 and 7-0 and burned up your tires on that lap. What I'm saying is if you do that with Mg ribbon you will find that is no longer Mg. It will not burn like Mg... It won't burn at all or supply it's own o2. Good experiment.

[ibpointless2]

I started a very basic experiment tonight. I have some 1/4 inch copper disks left over from a homopolar generator experiment. I placed it into a platic bowl. Cover it in Alum crystals. Wet it thoroughly with a mixture of water, Epsom salt, a salt substitute and alum boiled together till saturation occurred. Then I placed a magnesium fire starting block on top of the wet alum. AT first nothing happened. I left it to sit a few minutes while i was attending to something else. I noticed a popping sound coming from the bowl. I'm talking louder than rice crispies cereal. I pulled magnesium block out and the side contacting the alum is completely dark. And bubbling where it was making contact. Any ideas?

Magnesium is very reactive with water especially magnesium fire starers. The magnesium was giving off gases and that was what was bubbling.

[redrichie]

And a very distinct smell of ammonia .

[redrichie]

I started a very basic experiment tonight. I have some 1/4 inch copper disks left over from a homopolar generator experiment. I placed it into a platic bowl. Cover it in Alum crystals. Wet it thoroughly with a mixture of water, Epsom salt, a salt substitute and alum boiled together till saturation occurred. Then I placed a magnesium fire starting block on top of the wet alum. AT first nothing happened. I left it to sit a few minutes while i was attending to something else. I noticed a popping sound coming from the bowl. I'm talking louder than rice crispies cereal. I pulled magnesium block out and the side contacting the alum is completely dark. And bubbling where it was making contact. Any ideas?

[ibpointless2]

I have a bit of bad news on the cell I made. The Sodium silicate (Water glass) mixed with Magnesium sulfate (Epsom salt) and then heated with a blow torch cell is now what I would call dead. Its at 500mV with 0uA. I used Block sealer because it contain sodium silicate and copper flakes (http://www.barsproducts.com/tech/1109_tech.pdf)

[John_Bedini]

Hydrate

To All,
In testing the Marcus Reid Crystal Battery Chuck and I continue to test, we have found no ingredients that have anything to do with Lye or Calcium Carbonate. The cell acts more like a reactor and is controlled by the way Marcus builds the cell. You have two choices here you can combine the hydrate to form Aluminum silicate or Magnesium Silicate, they both work. Yes I do see a small amount of corrosion around the aluminum and also see greenish blue around the copper electrode so we do have a small amount of corrosion but nothing that stops this cell from working after 5 years, some are 10 years old.
Marcus started his research after attempting to talk to John H but John H never answered him.

What has been posted on the Reid Cells is very old and the new cells do not use anything that is listed. Some of Marcus's early cells still run digital clocks at his home. The only power from the cell is a steady 1.2 volts @ 2ma max. If you try to take more then that the cell will reverse and you must wait for it to reverse back again. The only way to get more power is to series parallel them and hope one will not reverse in the string.The bigger cell will run the oscillator circuit just fine and it keeps going for almost 1 year now. Marcus has hired experts in the field on Crystal Structures and I can tell you that it is not Sodium Silicate that is formed when the process is completed after doping his way. As Mr. Burgess said Na2SiO3 is a good start but that is only part of the formula to this Hydrate.
John B

[ibpointless2]

John B or Chuck H, is it calcium carbonate?

Calcium Carbonate does show up a lot when you search Marcus Reid in Google. I wonder if Reid cells do contain calcium carbonate.

@all
If Marcus Reid was able to make a cell that really does tap vacuum energy than it is highly possible that it can happen again. It takes only one white crow to prove not all crows are black, but if one white crow can exist than many more can too.

[Allen Burgess]

Drano

Crystal Drano is composed of Sodium Hydroxide (lye), and colored salt. The lye is the doping agent. Sodiummetasilikat (Na2SiO3), is the compound that is formed when Lye, also known as Sodium Hydroxide is mixed into soluable Sodium Silicate. That's the contents of the 60WH crystal Marcus Reid battery in the picture.

"This crystal cell was manufactured in the year 1999 and is larger in size, approx. 900g. The total amount of energy, produced between September 1999 and December 2006, is in the below shown cell approx. 60Wh. This is more than the energy density of a comparable re-chargeable Nickel Metal Hydride battery. This observation indicates that the flow of electric energy within the crystal cell does not necessarily cause the production of a gray layer".

This quote, along with all the other information, was taken down from the Rex Research site. I ask you, why was this information censored, if John Bedini's asertion that it's valueless is true? Sodiummetasilikat (Na2Si03) is the compound Marcus Reid used in his Crystal Battery described in the above quote, nothing more, nothing less.

Nerdrage's video shows when the 8 grams of Lye is added to synthisize Sodiummetasilikat from Sodium Silicate. You just need to boil all the water off to a slurry. Nerdrage stops short of that. Nerdrage states at 0:54 " If you need Sodiummetasilicate, add 8 grams of Sodium Hydroxide". Listen closely to the sound track!

Disregarding what I stated about the Drano and Lye, which I am not entirely certain of, you have my solemn assurance that Reid's Crystal Battery contains solely (Na2Si03) and nothing more. That's the secret!

"It is an aluminium cylinder where Sodiummetasilikat (Na2SiO3) is melted in and brought to crystalisation. The mentioned compounds are converted, during a chemical reaction, into a crystaline form". A small copper tube can be seen in the center to complete the battery.

Make Sodium Silicate - YouTube

[jehdds]

Mr. Burgess,
That is not what the Marcus Reid cell is, no Drano is found in this mixture what so ever. If I was not under discloser with Marcus I would tell everybody what it is. But I have given my word, the same as I would do with you or anybody else. I have said what the Sodium Silicate is, it is not the Liquid Water Glass, it is a hydrate of this chemical and everybody should be able to look up the hydrates. Just a tip of advise for everybody. The Rex information is very old it is not the same thing anymore no lead to be found in the cell.

John B

Thank you John for the Clarification. The video linked is how to synthesize Water glass. You mentioned we need crystals. My thought long ago was to simply use silica gel. It seems logical. It seems to work. If you tell us to seek elsewhere we will undoubtedly do so. Here is a broad question. Are we getting closer? or are we still missing something so very basic it is time to go back to school? I am not by any means claiming to have the solution. I still am in search of that which requires no intervention on hydration to be sure. Are we in the ball park or need to start afresh on our understanding?
Very Best Regards,
Jim

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*Edit - I seem to have missed a page out LOL
That'll teach me for not keeping up with the thread
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That is a very cool picture Plengo !

A box of rocks I just bought the other day may give the elusive answer.
Wife and I went to watch a film at the cinema and got there 40 minutes early, so went browsing around some shops.
I bought a little box of quartz types. Their structures have always interested me, but i've never been 'into' crystal formations till all this with crystal cells.

So, quartz ?

[John_Bedini]

No Drano is found

Mr. Burgess,
That is not what the Marcus Reid cell is, no Drano is found in this mixture what so ever. If I was not under discloser with Marcus I would tell everybody what it is. But I have given my word, the same as I would do with you or anybody else. I have said what the Sodium Silicate is, it is not the Liquid Water Glass, it is a hydrate of this chemical and everybody should be able to look up the hydrates. Just a tip of advise for everybody. The Rex information is very old it is not the same thing anymore no lead to be found in the cell.

John B

[Allen Burgess]

Marcus Reid battery.

Rex Research had a lengthy article about the Marcus Reid crystal battery, which has subsequently been removed. Here's what I was able to distill from it. As I remember, the doping compound is sold commercially as "Drano".

Picture of Marcus Reid's crystal battery with no signs of corrosion.

"This crystal cell was manufactured in the year 1999 and is larger in size, approx. 900g. The total amount of energy, produced between September 1999 and December 2006, is in the below shown cell approx. 60Wh. This is more than the energy density of a comparable re-chargeable Nickel Metal Hydride battery. This observation indicates that the flow of electric energy within the crystal cell does not necessarily cause the production of a gray layer".

It is an aluminium cylinder where Sodiummetasilikat (Na2SiO3) is melted in and brought to crystalisation. The mentioned compounds are converted, during a chemical reaction, into a crystaline form.

The second picture shows what the material looks like in a glass tube.

Also known as Waterglass!

Magic crystalsWater glass was used in the Magic rocks toys invented in 1940. When waterglass was combined with a selection of different metals in solution, the waterglass would cause the metals to precipitate. Each metal would precipitate separately causing a different color stalagmite.

Here's a link to a youtube video on how to make it by NerdRage:

Make Sodium Silicate - YouTube

Take special note of the addition of 8 grams of sodium hydroxide At 0:52 seconds in the video for the Met compound.