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[Allwest]

That's awesome. My last cell (on youtube) is built with the idea of making it zero resistance (or at least the minimum possible to a poor lab) on the output terminals. I still have 500 ma easily at 30mv. 30mv is in essence zero (or almost) which shows the resistance to be very low therefore no potential difference..

Where is the current coming from? and It has POWER to move the nidle of the analog 1970s Amp meter.

Fausto.

ps: Allwest created the design.

Plengo,

When the new cell is forming, try placing a florescent tube light next to it, it will play with it sometimes

[ibpointless2]

I ran a corrosion test on alum and water. From what I can find is that alum and water is destructive corrosion to magnesium ribbon. Here is the video of it. Alum and Water corrodes Magnesium ribbon - YouTube

[plengo]

It has current limiting properties but enormous output power potential!

That's awesome. My last cell (on youtube) is built with the idea of making it zero resistance (or at least the minimum possible to a poor lab) on the output terminals. I still have 500 ma easily at 30mv. 30mv is in essence zero (or almost) which shows the resistance to be very low therefore no potential difference..

Where is the current coming from? and It has POWER to move the nidle of the analog 1970s Amp meter.

Fausto.

ps: Allwest created the design.

[Allwest]

To all,

Friday night fun

I think, (in my humble opinion) that the best we can hope for is to slow down the corrosion of a metal from the elements

I believe this hidden power everyone is talking about is simply the power of nature, that wants everything to come down to the lowest common denominator

As IB pointed out in one video, taking one piece of charcoal big and the other one small, you catch a reading, the power we are catching is nature trying to bring each piece to common

I have taken ice and water and caught a reading

The same with different metals

The power is (nature trying to make everything in close proximity come to common)

The goal for infinite power, would be to setup a way that nature would try but never be able to accomplish its goal, thereby collecting power that will never quit until it accomplishes it goal

This is the basis that I created the new Allwest power cell that I am working on and Plengo

Your thoughts?

[CrystalDipoleMatrix]

Like Thomas bearden said all along, don't kill the dipole!! The dipole is what's pours out all the energy we want from the vaccum of space. All one needs to do is to built it and condition it. We need to focus on the caseimir effect. That's the real thing! Resonance is the key. PWM: Pulse width modulation. This is the triggering mecanism to unlock this ''free potential energy''.

[ibpointless2]

Even though i say some electrolyte creates a weight gain a metal such as magnesium there also exist some electrolyte that will lose weight in a metal. I have been running a test to measure the deterioration of a magnesium in certain electrolytes. I have two cups both with the same amount of water and alum in them. One cup has vegetable oil on top and the other cup is open to the air. Both cups are shorted out with copper wire. Both cups show a loss in weight in the magnesium electrodes but whats interesting is that the cup with oil on top has lost less weight than the one open to the air. So What i'm seeing is that cells with oil on top will protect the metals better than the cells that allow the water to evaporate.

From what I'm seeing and measuring is that we have two classes of corrosion, one is destructive and one is additive. From what I can see is that so long as you don't destroy the thing that gives you the energy than it will pour out continuous energy. Don't destroy the electrodes with destructive corrosion.

[ibpointless2]

I follow you on this IB. I wasn't quite sure what to do with the black magnesium thing but if you say it's getting bigger and have an higher energy level then it makes sense to me too. Recently, experimenting with ground potential I found that you must ''condition'' the magnesium to be able to built this black oxide more rapidly. We must short the thing out to lower the resistance and then let the battery a chance to ''breathe'' before cycle it again. Same thing I do on my water fuel cell experiment currently. ''To built a white oxide on the negative that will act like an dielectric''. IB, have you ever done some testing to show if there is infinite resistance on the black oxide?? This would be the ultimate proof! With the WFC experiment, It has been tested on the negative conditioned electrode and I've found infinite resistance! It has current limiting properties but enormous output power potential!

When the magnesium builds up the black layer it does not have a higher energy output as in more amp. the black has lower amps but the fact that it still gives power without deterioration is the key point. As long as the metals don't deteriorate then the battery will output continuous power.

infinite resistance? I don't understand how to prove infinite resistance?

[CrystalDipoleMatrix]

Measuring the weight of a electrode is the proof. Magnesium corrodes into a lower energy state. This lower energy state decays from the metal or falls apart. If you have metal falling apart it should be getting lighter. I have seen metals do this, like for example alum and water cells that have been shorted out for a certain time will break apart the magnesium ribbon. Or i have seen aluminum foil get holes in it, if holes are created the metal is getting lighter. magnesium carbonate is white, the electrodes gaining weight are black. White magnesium means its corroding into it lower energy state of its salt forum so it turn white. When it turns black it suppose to be another form of corrosion but i'm not seeing it being destructive like the white corrosion. I'm just saying not all corrosions are the same.

I follow you on this IB. I wasn't quite sure what to do with the black magnesium thing but if you say it's getting bigger and have an higher energy level then it makes sense to me too. Recently, experimenting with ground potential I found that you must ''condition'' the magnesium to be able to built this black oxide more rapidly. We must short the thing out to lower the resistance and then let the battery a chance to ''breathe'' before cycle it again. Same thing I do on my water fuel cell experiment currently. ''To built a white oxide on the negative that will act like an dielectric''. IB, have you ever done some testing to show if there is infinite resistance on the black oxide?? This would be the ultimate proof! With the WFC experiment, It has been tested on the negative conditioned electrode and I've found infinite resistance! It has current limiting properties but enormous output power potential!

[plengo]

I'm just saying not all corrosions are the same.

You got that really right my friend. Not all corrosion are the same at all.

If the metal is gaining weight, even if it is transforming into something else, it is still gaining weight and therefore volume and mass and also accumulating more potential energy in itself.

My cells that perform wells have that black Mg. Other cells have the white Mg but hold in place by the external carbon that is around and still performs. So corrosion seams to be how things fall apart (from somewhere) and agglomerate into something else which can be beneficial.

Trees and plants grow with time from within by just giving them water, sun light and "things" from the ground (free). Water is the vehicle for transporting the elements around and also to catalytic element of transfer of energy.

What is that brings the nutrients up to the top most part of a 30 foot tree? Is water in minuscule "pipes" inside the tree.

Fausto.

[ibpointless2]

I think you get mesurement error because of the magnesium ability to suck in water to form the magnesium carbonate. Sorry...Maybe I'm wrong but I need proofs. I'm not a skeptic, I'm realistic!

Measuring the weight of a electrode is the proof. Magnesium corrodes into a lower energy state. This lower energy state decays from the metal or falls apart. If you have metal falling apart it should be getting lighter. I have seen metals do this, like for example alum and water cells that have been shorted out for a certain time will break apart the magnesium ribbon. Or i have seen aluminum foil get holes in it, if holes are created the metal is getting lighter. magnesium carbonate is white, the electrodes gaining weight are black. White magnesium means its corroding into it lower energy state of its salt forum so it turn white. When it turns black it suppose to be another form of corrosion but i'm not seeing it being destructive like the white corrosion. I'm just saying not all corrosions are the same.

[ibpointless2]

What is it that you're seeing or that you've measured that doesn't make sense?

Electrodes are not decaying when shorted out in certain electrolyte, for example the metals are not loosing weight or thickness. Instead What i see is metals gaining weight and thickness. Its almost opposite of what i come to expect from a galvanic battery. Or how a dry crystal cell can die for a few days and then come back to life and run a load like nothing happen for months.


weighing Electrodes of crystal cell to show no corrosion - YouTube

[CrystalDipoleMatrix]

Weight of water vapor

I think you get mesurement error because of the magnesium ability to suck in water to form the magnesium carbonate. Sorry...Maybe I'm wrong but I need proofs. I'm not a skeptic, I'm realistic!

[plengo]

Have we been lied to about galvanic corrosion?

I've got the tools to measure depletion of a metal but some of the results are differing from what is accepted knowledge. I was thought about corrosion in books, on the internet with animations, and word of mouth. But that's the problem, no real world results. I've been taught to accept what the books, and the animations, and what people say. But what if they're wrong? Corrosion is a billion dollar industry and to say different cuts into the back account of many. Sure we all seen a nail rust but we can't compare that to magnesium in a different solution. All i'm saying is that my real world testing is not adding up to what i've been taught. What if our enemy is not water? What if i was wrong? Do the numbers lie? Its right in front of me, clear as day, but I don't fully understand it. Was i and many others lied to? Why are some cells electrodes gaining weight instead of loosing it do to decay? Why is the electrodes getting thicker but yet still giving me energy? I'm left to rethink what i know and i must ask the questions. What is corrosion? What is galvanic's? Is it really what the textbooks say or is it the real world example i have in front of me?

Ib, please don't take my answer as a criticism or I am playing funny with your findings.

I think galvanic is nothing more than physical friction of substances and the effects of it, at a molecule level I would say.

The rate will be in proportion to the motion with the exception where pressure is more. So in less pressures points, corrosion occurs more.

Water is never statically not moving when a piece of metal is emerged. Why magnetism has to be seen as only existing in lines somewhere, water itself has its magnetic and static inner pressures over anything in its mist, which can cause friction and therefore corrosion.

Crystal cells are showing that they indeed provide many paths of higher pressure for water to flow and release its potential to the cell. This causes the cell to grow with time. Water and its decomposed elements are the food.

Fausto.

[magnegenix]

What is it that you're seeing or that you've measured that doesn't make sense?

[ibpointless2]

Have we been lied to about galvanic corrosion?

I've got the tools to measure depletion of a metal but some of the results are differing from what is accepted knowledge. I was thought about corrosion in books, on the internet with animations, and word of mouth. But that's the problem, no real world results. I've been taught to accept what the books, and the animations, and what people say. But what if they're wrong? Corrosion is a billion dollar industry and to say different cuts into the back account of many. Sure we all seen a nail rust but we can't compare that to magnesium in a different solution. All i'm saying is that my real world testing is not adding up to what i've been taught. What if our enemy is not water? What if i was wrong? Do the numbers lie? Its right in front of me, clear as day, but I don't fully understand it. Was i and many others lied to? Why are some cells electrodes gaining weight instead of loosing it do to decay? Why is the electrodes getting thicker but yet still giving me energy? I'm left to rethink what i know and i must ask the questions. What is corrosion? What is galvanic's? Is it really what the textbooks say or is it the real world example i have in front of me?