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[vintasalo]

dielectrics...!!!

Hey Guys...

Good to see everyone on here still plugging away, Yet I still believe in dielectrics.. and i think no one is realizing the potential. Everything in life is Simple. They looked into the atom and realized it was not the smallest element and that the pixel is what they had found.

Look how a pan with teflon can cook and transfer energy into your food without it adhearing to the pan its self. Almost the same concept could go for the Cathode of any cell. Open a d battery and you will find a piece of paper seperating the cathode. DIELECTRICS..

Spray the Mag with TEFLON and put the magnesium and copper in water, BAM
Physics say yes
I say yes
What say you?

[plengo]

I played with the idea of using a empty lead acid battery and i filled it with my mix. here is the video. Big Crystal Cell from new lead acid battery with no acid - YouTube

Great work Ib, can you describe what is the electrolyte you created and added to the battery?

I just bought a clean battery to perform the exact same experiment but I need to use the correct formula before I try different and one and keep buying batteries that cost around $40.

Fausto.

[ibpointless2]

[plengo]

@Ib,

thank you for the explanation of the bi-polar logic, Very interesting.

I wonder also what would be your natural intuition to why water has this nature. Since you know the work of the professor explaining the segregation of water molecules causing an electrostatic effect, do you think somehow we are extracting that energy with our dry cells? would that be more like the water cell cases?

I just have not cracked what you are looking for in the effect you observed with the salt cell without water, in the sense, that you probably have a nice theory why it works so well dry and you are trying to figure out how to scale, may be?

Any way, thank you for your work. I am in no way stopped in time even if this forum seems quiet or not. This stuff of experimentation is a wonderful hobby and mind inquisitive problem.

Fausto.

[ibpointless2]

@Ib,

thank you for the explanation of the bi-polar logic, Very interesting.

I wonder also what would be your natural intuition to why water has this nature. Since you know the work of the professor explaining the segregation of water molecules causing an electrostatic effect, do you think somehow we are extracting that energy with our dry cells? would that be more like the water cell cases?

I just have not cracked what you are looking for in the effect you observed with the salt cell without water, in the sense, that you probably have a nice theory why it works so well dry and you are trying to figure out how to scale, may be?

Any way, thank you for your work. I am in no way stopped in time even if this forum seems quiet or not. This stuff of experimentation is a wonderful hobby and mind inquisitive problem.

Fausto.

[magnegenix]

Anti-corrosion Ability of Surfactants: A Review

The vegetable oil in your previous tests seem to have been acting as a surfactant as well and I guess that's why you saw the metals not exhibiting corrosion in those tests you did.

This is great work that you've done here....

[ibpointless2]

Anti-corrosion Ability of Surfactants: A Review

The vegetable oil in your previous tests seem to have been acting as a surfactant as well and I guess that's why you saw the metals not exhibiting corrosion in those tests you did.

This is great work that you've done here....

I try to avoid adding more water to the detergent. I think it has enough water in it already. The vegetable oil has no real purpose other than to keep the water from the air and also to keep the water from evaporating.




@all

Here is a video of a cell that has detergent on bottom and oil on top. measuring corrosion of magnesium in detergent - YouTube

In the video i show measurements that the magnesium is not corroding while exposed to the detergent and a voltage reading is at the end of the video.

[ibpointless2]

@ magnegenix
That was a very interesting read about Surfactant's.

[magnegenix]

Has anyone tested "painting" the electrode metals (magnesium etc) to prevent corrosion? Here's an article on The Principles of Magnesium Corrosion Protection

[ibpointless2]

Crystal battery runs led over night and lights a 12V LED - YouTube

[ibpointless2]

Have we been lied to about galvanic corrosion?

I've got the tools to measure depletion of a metal but some of the results are differing from what is accepted knowledge. I was thought about corrosion in books, on the internet with animations, and word of mouth. But that's the problem, no real world results. I've been taught to accept what the books, and the animations, and what people say. But what if they're wrong? Corrosion is a billion dollar industry and to say different cuts into the back account of many. Sure we all seen a nail rust but we can't compare that to magnesium in a different solution. All i'm saying is that my real world testing is not adding up to what i've been taught. What if our enemy is not water? What if i was wrong? Do the numbers lie? Its right in front of me, clear as day, but I don't fully understand it. Was i and many others lied to? Why are some cells electrodes gaining weight instead of loosing it do to decay? Why is the electrodes getting thicker but yet still giving me energy? I'm left to rethink what i know and i must ask the questions. What is corrosion? What is galvanic's? Is it really what the textbooks say or is it the real world example i have in front of me?

[magnegenix]

What is it that you're seeing or that you've measured that doesn't make sense?

[plengo]

Have we been lied to about galvanic corrosion?

I've got the tools to measure depletion of a metal but some of the results are differing from what is accepted knowledge. I was thought about corrosion in books, on the internet with animations, and word of mouth. But that's the problem, no real world results. I've been taught to accept what the books, and the animations, and what people say. But what if they're wrong? Corrosion is a billion dollar industry and to say different cuts into the back account of many. Sure we all seen a nail rust but we can't compare that to magnesium in a different solution. All i'm saying is that my real world testing is not adding up to what i've been taught. What if our enemy is not water? What if i was wrong? Do the numbers lie? Its right in front of me, clear as day, but I don't fully understand it. Was i and many others lied to? Why are some cells electrodes gaining weight instead of loosing it do to decay? Why is the electrodes getting thicker but yet still giving me energy? I'm left to rethink what i know and i must ask the questions. What is corrosion? What is galvanic's? Is it really what the textbooks say or is it the real world example i have in front of me?

Ib, please don't take my answer as a criticism or I am playing funny with your findings.

I think galvanic is nothing more than physical friction of substances and the effects of it, at a molecule level I would say.

The rate will be in proportion to the motion with the exception where pressure is more. So in less pressures points, corrosion occurs more.

Water is never statically not moving when a piece of metal is emerged. Why magnetism has to be seen as only existing in lines somewhere, water itself has its magnetic and static inner pressures over anything in its mist, which can cause friction and therefore corrosion.

Crystal cells are showing that they indeed provide many paths of higher pressure for water to flow and release its potential to the cell. This causes the cell to grow with time. Water and its decomposed elements are the food.

Fausto.

[CrystalDipoleMatrix]

Weight of water vapor

I think you get mesurement error because of the magnesium ability to suck in water to form the magnesium carbonate. Sorry...Maybe I'm wrong but I need proofs. I'm not a skeptic, I'm realistic!

[ibpointless2]

What is it that you're seeing or that you've measured that doesn't make sense?

Electrodes are not decaying when shorted out in certain electrolyte, for example the metals are not loosing weight or thickness. Instead What i see is metals gaining weight and thickness. Its almost opposite of what i come to expect from a galvanic battery. Or how a dry crystal cell can die for a few days and then come back to life and run a load like nothing happen for months.


weighing Electrodes of crystal cell to show no corrosion - YouTube