Bedini Earth Light

[ibpointless2]

Crystal battery runs led over night and lights a 12V LED - YouTube

[magnegenix]

Has anyone tested "painting" the electrode metals (magnesium etc) to prevent corrosion? Here's an article on The Principles of Magnesium Corrosion Protection

[ibpointless2]

@ magnegenix
That was a very interesting read about Surfactant's.

[ibpointless2]

Anti-corrosion Ability of Surfactants: A Review

The vegetable oil in your previous tests seem to have been acting as a surfactant as well and I guess that's why you saw the metals not exhibiting corrosion in those tests you did.

This is great work that you've done here....

I try to avoid adding more water to the detergent. I think it has enough water in it already. The vegetable oil has no real purpose other than to keep the water from the air and also to keep the water from evaporating.




@all

Here is a video of a cell that has detergent on bottom and oil on top. measuring corrosion of magnesium in detergent - YouTube

In the video i show measurements that the magnesium is not corroding while exposed to the detergent and a voltage reading is at the end of the video.

[magnegenix]

Anti-corrosion Ability of Surfactants: A Review

The vegetable oil in your previous tests seem to have been acting as a surfactant as well and I guess that's why you saw the metals not exhibiting corrosion in those tests you did.

This is great work that you've done here....

[ibpointless2]

@Ib,

thank you for the explanation of the bi-polar logic, Very interesting.

I wonder also what would be your natural intuition to why water has this nature. Since you know the work of the professor explaining the segregation of water molecules causing an electrostatic effect, do you think somehow we are extracting that energy with our dry cells? would that be more like the water cell cases?

I just have not cracked what you are looking for in the effect you observed with the salt cell without water, in the sense, that you probably have a nice theory why it works so well dry and you are trying to figure out how to scale, may be?

Any way, thank you for your work. I am in no way stopped in time even if this forum seems quiet or not. This stuff of experimentation is a wonderful hobby and mind inquisitive problem.

Fausto.

[plengo]

@Ib,

thank you for the explanation of the bi-polar logic, Very interesting.

I wonder also what would be your natural intuition to why water has this nature. Since you know the work of the professor explaining the segregation of water molecules causing an electrostatic effect, do you think somehow we are extracting that energy with our dry cells? would that be more like the water cell cases?

I just have not cracked what you are looking for in the effect you observed with the salt cell without water, in the sense, that you probably have a nice theory why it works so well dry and you are trying to figure out how to scale, may be?

Any way, thank you for your work. I am in no way stopped in time even if this forum seems quiet or not. This stuff of experimentation is a wonderful hobby and mind inquisitive problem.

Fausto.

[ibpointless2]

[plengo]

I played with the idea of using a empty lead acid battery and i filled it with my mix. here is the video. Big Crystal Cell from new lead acid battery with no acid - YouTube

Great work Ib, can you describe what is the electrolyte you created and added to the battery?

I just bought a clean battery to perform the exact same experiment but I need to use the correct formula before I try different and one and keep buying batteries that cost around $40.

Fausto.

[vintasalo]

dielectrics...!!!

Hey Guys...

Good to see everyone on here still plugging away, Yet I still believe in dielectrics.. and i think no one is realizing the potential. Everything in life is Simple. They looked into the atom and realized it was not the smallest element and that the pixel is what they had found.

Look how a pan with teflon can cook and transfer energy into your food without it adhearing to the pan its self. Almost the same concept could go for the Cathode of any cell. Open a d battery and you will find a piece of paper seperating the cathode. DIELECTRICS..

Spray the Mag with TEFLON and put the magnesium and copper in water, BAM
Physics say yes
I say yes
What say you?

[ibpointless2]

IB,

Yes, very interesting what Chuck and John are doing with the lead acid battery

I did not catch any readings on the crystal cells, did you ?

John stated that the cells have been running for two years, ....... I looked back 2 years on his videos

Chaîne de Energenx - YouTube

And could only find work on crystal cells less than a year old , he was working on the rotating ironless magnetic motor back then

Do you know of any info on the 2 year old cell?

Best of luck

Do you have any

I was thinking the same thing too. 2 years ago he was just getting his feet wet in making lasersabers air battery. In the video where he says that the cell been running for 2 years is the crystal lamp kit he introduced 7 months ago in this video. Crystal Battery table lamp kit. - YouTube
He also doesn't mention alum until Feb 9 2011 in this video Earth Lights 5 - YouTube
It looks like the same green light in both. I would say that cell has been only running for one year at the most. You'll also notice that the alum has turned yellowish but white clumps surround the magnesium. Those white clumps look like magnesium salts which form when the magnesium corrodes away.

It is odd I must say.

[Nick_Z]

Guys:
This is a previous post (below) that I made a while back, I just wanted to follow up on it, and show a new video that I made last night.
The last "dry carbon/sand cell" in the previous video has gotten a few drops of water for the first time about two months ago, and is now still reading 1v, 30mA. That cell is now about a year old.

Quote from a Previous post:

It would certainly be nice to see John B make a come back to this thread. Maybe he'll find the time to join us again, I hope so.

After seeing Slider's last video, I pulled out some my cells, that I have stashed away for those light outage moments. Although some of them are in various stages of oxidation, there is one in particular that is not oxidized at all. It is one of my capacitor can cells, one that has only activated carbon, a carbon rod, and is sealed on top with white glue. That cell is 3/4 inch by 1.5 inches, it has never seen a drop of water. It reads still having about 3/4 volt, and one or two mA, now months old, maybe even almost a year old. It would certainly light one of those penny oscillators, fairly brightly, but does not do much on my oscillators, just a slight lighting of the led. I just thought to mention this, for those wondering what happens to totally dry, no salt cells, after some months, or a year or so. Well, the answer is- Nothing happens. Of course if I add a few drops of water, it probably would show about 1 volt, 10mAs, or higher output. But, this is a dry no water cell, and will stay that way. A dozen or so of these cells will produce about 12 volts, but still only a couple of mAs.

Here's a short video that I made, showing my Exciter circuit working with NO battery connected, just the capacitive link between my stray house wiring AC. I also show the circuit running on just 0. 75v from a older Carbon/Al cell, which is showing a wireless output of several inches away from the Exciter coil.
Video:
Exciter circuit running on NO battery. - YouTube


Todays post:
My newest Exciter coil circuit (one inch coil) just made last night:
Tiny Exciter coil circuit lighting CFL bulbs - YouTube

Nick_Z

[ibpointless2]

I played with the idea of using a empty lead acid battery and i filled it with my mix. here is the video. Big Crystal Cell from new lead acid battery with no acid - YouTube

[Allwest]

New Crystal Batteries20 John Bedini and Chuck Hupp - YouTube

IB,

Yes, very interesting what Chuck and John are doing with the lead acid battery

I did not catch any readings on the crystal cells, did you ?

John stated that the cells have been running for two years, ....... I looked back 2 years on his videos

Chaîne de Energenx - YouTube

And could only find work on crystal cells less than a year old , he was working on the rotating ironless magnetic motor back then

Do you know of any info on the 2 year old cell?

Best of luck

Do you have any

[ibpointless2]

New Crystal Batteries20 John Bedini and Chuck Hupp - YouTube