Bedini Earth Light

[Sawt2]

Plengo

Wow! hows the metals holding up?

to all

I have a cell that when it is in the salt water the volts go down but the amps go up, (.7 volts and 45Ma)take it out of the water and dry it out and the volts go up and the amps go down ( 1.33 volts and 10Ma)

If I add (in the water) hydrogen peroxide, everything goes up WAY up

for a time (about 3 hours hits 500+ Ma & 1.7 volts)

If you needed a quick burst of energy try hydrogen peroxide in the water


Anybody have an idea on why the volts go down in water?


Best.....

That is an interesting find.
the additional energy is great, I would be curious to see if it harms the metals in any way. Peroxide is an oxidizer. I might build a couple more cells and just try it.
Brian

[Sawt2]

@Sawt2:That is a really nice setup and you have been very gracious to share your experience with us. You have set a high bench mark, hope we can achieve your success. I went to Harbor Freight yesterday and bought some of the AlumiWeld rods. Threw a quick 3-pack together this afternoon, don't know what happened to the other 3 .

This is a mini version of the cells, 2" tall. Used activated carbon, ground to a powder in an old coffee grinder. If more surface area of the carbon yeilds more current, then powdered carbon should give a lot of surface area. Initial readings. 3.22 Volts, current starts at 71mA and drops and holds at 45mA. With 2 LEDS the Voltage sits at 2.9 and the light is very good. I am sure the current will drop over time, hope it stays at a useable level and the voltage holds. I will watch these for a few days before attempting larger cells.

Thanks again Brian for your inspiration.

Brad S

B_rads
Very nice, those lights look nice and bright, it will be interesting to see how it does over time.
Help me understand something, maybe I missed it in a previous post, what does the charcoal do?
Brian

[Sawt2]

Lidmotor
Nice video, I would like that circuit schematic if you are willing to share it. I'm glad to see that the alumiweld is a possibility, time will tell. If it proves to be worthy it is available on Alumiweld's web site not sure on price comparison with harbor freight.

B_rads
Thank you for the kind words, I really enjoy this kind of stuff, Plus it's useful
Brian

[Allwest]

Both goes down and with water comes back to almost original.

Fausto.

Plengo

Wow! hows the metals holding up?

to all

I have a cell that when it is in the salt water the volts go down but the amps go up, (.7 volts and 45Ma)take it out of the water and dry it out and the volts go up and the amps go down ( 1.33 volts and 10Ma)

If I add (in the water) hydrogen peroxide, everything goes up WAY up

for a time (about 3 hours hits 500+ Ma & 1.7 volts)

If you needed a quick burst of energy try hydrogen peroxide in the water


Anybody have an idea on why the volts go down in water?


Best.....

[plengo]

plengo,

When the cell is going bad, do the volts go down first, and the amps stay up?

Both goes down and with water comes back to almost original.

Fausto.

[Allwest]

@Allwest:


Homemade Batteries

Wonder if Mr. Dickens read that before his claim of being the inventor of the Magnesium Water Copper Battery.
OS:Stephen Dickens Magnesium-Water-Copper Battery - PESWiki

B_rads

I can see a great oppertunity with this kind of fence placed under a parking lot to light the area, if it worked

Best....

[Allwest]

@Allwest:


Homemade Batteries

Wonder if Mr. Dickens read that before his claim of being the inventor of the Magnesium Water Copper Battery.
OS:Stephen Dickens Magnesium-Water-Copper Battery - PESWiki

Dragon's Stubby Stubblefield coil---That works!.ASF - YouTube

[b_rads]

@Allwest:


Homemade Batteries

Wonder if Mr. Dickens read that before his claim of being the inventor of the Magnesium Water Copper Battery.
OS:Stephen Dickens Magnesium-Water-Copper Battery - PESWiki

[Allwest]

@Lidmotor - I'll definitely check that one out... !

@All - Some experiments today with the very common fence wire have resulted in a great method to produce power with the Earth. About 0.750V and 200uA per piece stuck in the ground, but, more amperage with more wire. Considering it's easier to find large amounts of common fencing, all looks good for scaling up.
Especially because it works as NickZ indicated with his copper rod experiment - just 1 piece of copper is needed. Add to that, my Pac-Man themed water based multi-oscillator of some time back, where 1 piece of galv steel was used, but individual copper pieces per oscillator. There may be a limit, but so far, a number of oscillators to the same piece of copper in the ground work as well as just one. Straight through loadings may be different, but oscillators need only the one piece

Here's a quick vid to demonstrate: Fencing Earth Light - YouTube

It would be interesting to bury the whole fence and see what kind of power you get

[Slider2732]

@Lidmotor - I'll definitely check that one out... !

@All - Some experiments today with the very common fence wire have resulted in a great method to produce power with the Earth. About 0.750V and 200uA per piece stuck in the ground, but, more amperage with more wire. Considering it's easier to find large amounts of common fencing, all looks good for scaling up.
Especially because it works as NickZ indicated with his copper rod experiment - just 1 piece of copper is needed. Add to that, my Pac-Man themed water based multi-oscillator of some time back, where 1 piece of galv steel was used, but individual copper pieces per oscillator. There may be a limit, but so far, a number of oscillators to the same piece of copper in the ground work as well as just one. Straight through loadings may be different, but oscillators need only the one piece

Here's a quick vid to demonstrate: Fencing Earth Light - YouTube

[Allwest]

Don't know if this was posted already, but it's a pretty interesting battery..

Donald Sadoway: The missing link to renewable energy - YouTube

Freezer,

Very nice find

Best of luck

[Lidmotor]

1st cell --running a small Slayer Exciter

@ All
I like what I am seeing with this zinc / aluminum alloy idea. I made a small cell today with the Alumiweld rod. Here it is running a small Slayer Exciter circuit.

Aluminum welding rod battery--1st try - YouTube

When I get a chance I'll build up a six pack and see what that does with an led wired straight to it.

Lidmotor

[b_rads]

Team Player

@Sawt2:That is a really nice setup and you have been very gracious to share your experience with us. You have set a high bench mark, hope we can achieve your success. I went to Harbor Freight yesterday and bought some of the AlumiWeld rods. Threw a quick 3-pack together this afternoon, don't know what happened to the other 3 .

This is a mini version of the cells, 2" tall. Used activated carbon, ground to a powder in an old coffee grinder. If more surface area of the carbon yeilds more current, then powdered carbon should give a lot of surface area. Initial readings. 3.22 Volts, current starts at 71mA and drops and holds at 45mA. With 2 LEDS the Voltage sits at 2.9 and the light is very good. I am sure the current will drop over time, hope it stays at a useable level and the voltage holds. I will watch these for a few days before attempting larger cells.

Thanks again Brian for your inspiration.

Brad S

[Sawt2]

Thank You very much. I checked the Alumiweld web site and they say this is a zinc alloy. There is a Harbor Freight Store that I pass on my way home. I am stopping by there today and will pick some up. I do plan to parallel this test with the 97% zinc rods that I have to see if there is any magic in this alloy. I hope to get the positive long term results you have reported. Can you post a picture of your cells, or report the size and how they are built? Again, thanks.

Brad S

We used 1/2 inch copper water pipe 6" long.
The chemalloy came in 9" pieces so we just cut them in half Probably could cut in quarter and would work fine. We wrapped the chemalloy in cotton bed sheet material till it would stay put inside the copper.
Without looking at my notes I think the electrolyte was 36 grams salt in 1 gallon of water and 18 drops of ammonia. I think I will let it run like this for 180 days then check for deterioration then will reassemble and try more LEDs. By the way this runs without any circuit, it is a LED connected directly.
The 6 cells are wired 3 in series twice then wired paralel. It's about 4.3 volts no load. with the LED it hangs right around 2.45 very steadily. Each cell sits in a glass test tube, found them dirt cheap on net. (I thought the Bedini made a nice backdrop).

[Freezer]

Don't know if this was posted already, but it's a pretty interesting battery..

Donald Sadoway: The missing link to renewable energy - YouTube