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[Allwest]

Oh I see
During the head scratching before realising it was the coil that needed to be lifted, I did just that. The immediate thought on moving it from the kitchen, was that i'd busted a wire somewhere. After checking everything, I took the water cell away from the coil and did in fact think it was something related to connections to the electrodes. All was fine...so I decided to put it to one side on the box, the oscillator started up. Put it down it stopped, put it back it started up.
Was entertaining for a Sunday afternoon lol

Must have to do with the coil being grounded

That is a BIG Coil

Best of luck

[Slider2732]

Oh I see
During the head scratching before realising it was the coil that needed to be lifted, I did just that. The immediate thought on moving it from the kitchen, was that i'd busted a wire somewhere. After checking everything, I took the water cell away from the coil and did in fact think it was something related to connections to the electrodes. All was fine...so I decided to put it to one side on the box, the oscillator started up. Put it down it stopped, put it back it started up.
Was entertaining for a Sunday afternoon lol

[Allwest]

Thanks for viewing
I know that people often ask about long running salts cells and my finding, along with others, is that a little bit lasts for months, higher power burns out in weeks.
The capacitor can is a stovetop type, with the aluminium can being the negative. The seashell uses zinc oxide and green tipped match heads.

Not sure how you mean about removing the water cell. It would just stop lol
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I just did it anyway, wondering about the metal mass and energy soaking from the environment or something equally as tangential...it stopped
So, yeah, just wondering how you mean ?

Well... that was worth a try also, to see if the coil (by itself) was collecting anything, but what I meant was take off the battery cell from the coil, but still leave it connected, and see which one needs to be elevated

Best of luck

[Slider2732]

Thanks for viewing
I know that people often ask about long running salts cells and my finding, along with others, is that a little bit lasts for months, higher power burns out in weeks.
The capacitor can is a stovetop type, with the aluminium can being the negative. The seashell uses zinc oxide and green tipped match heads.

Not sure how you mean about removing the water cell. It would just stop lol
.
.
.
I just did it anyway, wondering about the metal mass and energy soaking from the environment or something equally as tangential...it stopped
So, yeah, just wondering how you mean ?

[Allwest]

Each mixture part within spray on bottles..hmmm
That really is very cool and, as you say, sort of obvious if ingredients are to be wet mixed


Quick update from here on 2x long run cells.
In this short video I show a few things, including the 7 month and 4 month old more 'traditional' stovetop mixture types of salts cells, still running: 4xLED Osc w/1 water + pancake coil metals trouble.mpeg - YouTube
Thoughts are, that while both cells are exposed and not sealed, the higher than sensible Oklahoma humidity is keeping them going.

Slider,

Thanks for video

Wow that little one still going, amazing!

With plain water on the one you made should last forever

something to try with the pancake coil, try removing the battery cell, and put it on the box

Good luck

[Slider2732]

Each mixture part within spray on bottles..hmmm
That really is very cool and, as you say, sort of obvious if ingredients are to be wet mixed


Quick update from here on 2x long run cells.
In this short video I show a few things, including the 7 month and 4 month old more 'traditional' stovetop mixture types of salts cells, still running: 4xLED Osc w/1 water + pancake coil metals trouble.mpeg - YouTube
Thoughts are, that while both cells are exposed and not sealed, the higher than sensible Oklahoma humidity is keeping them going.

[kukulcangod]

Super practical battery

Hi:
Everybody, well one more innovation of the kind : why in the Heck I didn't think about it myself being in this forum!!!.....
T
o me is the ever telling you " be practical and simple" here the link


Scientists develop spray-on battery - Yahoo! News

[Allwest]

@Allwest:

The only time I have ever seen this is when using copper sulfate in the solution. The copper sulfate bond is weaker than a zinc or magnesium sulfate bond. As the elemental Zn or Mg breaks free of the negative electrode and finds the copper sulfate, the copper is released and the sulfate attaches to the Zn or Mg. The copper has to go somewhere and I have seen it attach itself to the negative electrode as well as build up on the positive electrode.

Brad S

Very interesting, I have not used any copper sulfate, but I am trying a new (or new to me technique) I don't know if it hurts or helps this cell yet

Thanks for responding

To All
I have been doing some long term testing of some cells, but I forgot to do a base line

Does any body have base line info for a how long a normal battery lasts on an LED light?

Thanks, and best of luck

[b_rads]

To All,

Thank you for your informative information and updates


I am working on a water filled cell, copper and mag

Below the water is the normal mag decay, but above the water (or at the water) I see copper being deposited on the mag

Has any body come across this, or know where to send me so I can research this?

Thanks

Best of luck to all

@Allwest:

The only time I have ever seen this is when using copper sulfate in the solution. The copper sulfate bond is weaker than a zinc or magnesium sulfate bond. As the elemental Zn or Mg breaks free of the negative electrode and finds the copper sulfate, the copper is released and the sulfate attaches to the Zn or Mg. The copper has to go somewhere and I have seen it attach itself to the negative electrode as well as build up on the positive electrode.

Brad S

[Allwest]

To All,

Thank you for your informative information and updates


I am working on a water filled cell, copper and mag

Below the water is the normal mag decay, but above the water (or at the water) I see copper being deposited on the mag

Has any body come across this, or know where to send me so I can research this?

Thanks

Best of luck to all

[b_rads]

A must see video for anyone working with water cells (aka - fuel cells).

Water Powered by TinManPower

[prato_braun]

Manganese dioxide electrodes

Hi guys,

I just found some nurdrage videos on how to make pure manganese dioxide electrodes, he uses titanium but it might also work for magnesium and work as a depolarizer. As JB often stated high grade materials make the difference.
here you go:

Make Manganese Dioxide (MnSO4 + KHSO5 approach) - YouTube

Make Manganese Dioxide Electrodes - Revisited - YouTube

Cheers,

Prato

[prato_braun]

Thanks IB

Is this the oscillator you talk about? http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post128947

Lidmotor showed a nice oscillator that worked great too. PENNY's circuit diagram - YouTube



I guess I could give a update. I have the 5 foot crystal cell that powers a LCD clock and it still runs, but will die when a thunderstorm comes through. If this 5 foot tall cell dies one day it will come back the next day or two at full power like nothing ever happen. The cells that I spend most time on are my Pressure cells that get there power when you crush or apply constant pressure to the crystal mix. I don't have these cell running a load off them but instead I have them charge capacitor and then I run my loads off the capacitors. The latest thing I like to do is put a battery in series with the pressure cell and have them both charge up a capacitor, the capacitor charges to a higher voltage than the battery and then I dump that power into the battery, its kind of like a self charging of the battery. For example I took a AA battery that is 1.612V and put in series with a pressure cell and they both got the capacitor to 2.80V, and I took that 2.80V and charge the AA up or run a red LED. All my crystal cell variants still work. The high resistance (low amps) of my cells are not really a problem when you convert time into amps. Still much work must be done and most cells and ideas will be kept close until the right time comes.

Hi IB,

thanks for your update. I dunno if the oscillator at the first page is the one that JB uses in his videos but we'll give it a try some day. Thanks so much for the Lidmotor video I was looking for that for month as I couldn't find a good description how to build penny. It would really be awesome if we could replicate the ambient heat graphene cell and get it to run an oscillator...forever

Heads up everybody ,

Prato

[Herbie687]

Thanks Herbie 687,

Check this graphene process out using a plastic coke bottle:

Dynamic reactors .........

IndianaBoys

Awesome. I heard about Keshe @PESN, but I didn't look into it untill now.
I'm just very happy that Graphene research and experiments are now in the hands of tinkers and enthusiasts. (like us.) thanks again.

[Allwest]

Hey IB,

What ever happened to the that cell you obtained 2 amps on?