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[NickZ]

Fausto:
You mentioned that the cell when new gave 100mA, but dry gives 50 micro amps? That it uses water, but shows no oxidation, as it is too early to tell.
NO sand used in these last two small cells? Where do you get the carbon?
Sorry for all the questions,
thanks for sharing your results.
Nick

[kaliji]

thank you John

Thank you john to lightning our live again

[plengo]

Ps: i forgot to mention. This cell 100% dry produces 1.9v and shorted a constant current of 50uma (micro amps).

Fausto.

[plengo]

@all,

Can someone with good equipment measure if those cells have constant or pulsating DC voltage at mega range frequency?

Fausto.

[plengo]

@Jim,
I dont know. Too early. I have similar cells with carbons and the answer is no. Not really.

@aaron5120'

Yes. Mg inside and copper outside. This cell is very small. Smaller than the copper cap ones. Total material used is minimal too.

@chuck,

Off course you guys did. I feel like i am always behind great shoulder. I really wish i could work with you guys there and learn from you.

Btw, the first cell was running since last night until i made the second one and the video shows the rest. Very impressive amps on such small size. Brand new made was giving over 100 ma at .5v shorted through the meter. Amazing!!!

Fausto.

[chuck H]

Current

@John Bedini,

This is what I managed to turn up so far:

"The air batteries and nitrogen batteries are filled up to 200 bar, and the rocket now weighs 28,000 lbs (12,700 kg). Electrical cables are now connected and gyroscopes are being powered up by 28 Volts / 60 Amps, DC".

1680 Watts worth of Crystal Power Cells would take up alot of space, but the air and nitrgen batteries weigh enough. At 100-250 W-hr/kg for a lithium-ion battery, the electric power source would only have to weigh around 15 pounds, a huge weight savings over the 200 bar of compressed gasses. It would make sense to replace the disclosed heavy air and nitrogen battery system with Crystal Power Cells, based on weight savings advantage, if they became available. I'll keep searching for more clues.

@ Allen
Those gyro require huge amounts of current to run. The DRA/DRAI/NC2/pt512/s systems on the submarines I worked on for the US Navy required huge current to run. I really dought that a crystal cell is a candidate to run a gyro based system at a level that would allow that system to be accurate as needed. But, we can hope we get there someday though.

[jehdds]

Just sharing some new construction and formula. Crystal Cell 14 - YouTube

I am using Activated Carbon, Alum, dry Sodium Silicate, Mg and paper.

I waited a night for the Sodium Silicate to dry out into a glass solid structure. I grind it to powder. Mixed it with the other elements and formed the Cell similar to my other cells. THis time I use a lot more paper around Mg so that it will hold the water but no touch the remaining (geometry again).

This cell gives an amazing 1.9v or more and 30ma or more. With an oscillator it can give 20ma constant. Without the oscillator and 12 LEDs in parallel it gives about 2 to 5ma for a long time. This is a very small cell and the performance is orders of magnitude better than my previous cells.

I can only say the Silica is the tricky in this case.

Fausto.

Fausto,
Very nice.
Are you seeing the magnesium being digested?
Very best regards,
Jim

[chuck H]

Alum cell

Just sharing some new construction and formula. Crystal Cell 14 - YouTube

I am using Activated Carbon, Alum, dry Sodium Silicate, Mg and paper.

I waited a night for the Sodium Silicate to dry out into a glass solid structure. I grind it to powder. Mixed it with the other elements and formed the Cell similar to my other cells. THis time I use a lot more paper around Mg so that it will hold the water but no touch the remaining (geometry again).

This cell gives an amazing 1.9v or more and 30ma or more. With an oscillator it can give 20ma constant. Without the oscillator and 12 LEDs in parallel it gives about 2 to 5ma for a long time. This is a very small cell and the performance is orders of magnitude better than my previous cells.

I can only say the Silica is the tricky in this case.

Fausto.

@ plengo
That is a good cell for Ma output. John and I built that one awhile back and found that the Alum grows and pushes the cell apart. They start out at about 30Ma. We used graphite instead of carbon though.

[Allen Burgess]

Rocket gyro batteries.

@John Bedini,

This is what I managed to turn up so far:

"The air batteries and nitrogen batteries are filled up to 200 bar, and the rocket now weighs 28,000 lbs (12,700 kg). Electrical cables are now connected and gyroscopes are being powered up by 28 Volts / 60 Amps, DC".

1680 Watts worth of Crystal Power Cells would take up alot of space, but the air and nitrgen batteries weigh enough. At 100-250 W-hr/kg for a lithium-ion battery, the electric power source would only have to weigh around 15 pounds, a huge weight savings over the 200 bar of compressed gasses. It would make sense to replace the disclosed heavy air and nitrogen battery system with Crystal Power Cells, based on weight savings advantage, if they became available. I'll keep searching for more clues.

They told me their Saucer Jockeys had to wear mittens! Quote from Plengo: Wow! "I can only say the Silica (Sodium Silicate) is the trick in this case". On lighting 12 super bright LEDS for a long time with just two tiny cells.

[aaron5120]

Plengo cell

Just sharing some new construction and formula. Crystal Cell 14 - YouTube

I am using Activated Carbon, Alum, dry Sodium Silicate, Mg and paper.

I waited a night for the Sodium Silicate to dry out into a glass solid structure. I grind it to powder. Mixed it with the other elements and formed the Cell similar to my other cells. THis time I use a lot more paper around Mg so that it will hold the water but no touch the remaining (geometry again).

This cell gives an amazing 1.9v or more and 30ma or more. With an oscillator it can give 20ma constant. Without the oscillator and 12 LEDs in parallel it gives about 2 to 5ma for a long time. This is a very small cell and the performance is orders of magnitude better than my previous cells.

I can only say the Silica is the tricky in this case.

Fausto.

Hi Plengo,
Nice cells! This is fantastic. Is that big die made of copper or Mg? I never could get soooo many mAs out of a cell this size!
I suppose you use Mg in the center and copper in the outside, is that correct? Thanks for helping!

[plengo]

Just sharing some new construction and formula. Crystal Cell 14 - YouTube

I am using Activated Carbon, Alum, dry Sodium Silicate, Mg and paper.

I waited a night for the Sodium Silicate to dry out into a glass solid structure. I grind it to powder. Mixed it with the other elements and formed the Cell similar to my other cells. THis time I use a lot more paper around Mg so that it will hold the water but no touch the remaining (geometry again).

This cell gives an amazing 1.9v or more and 30ma or more. With an oscillator it can give 20ma constant. Without the oscillator and 12 LEDs in parallel it gives about 2 to 5ma for a long time. This is a very small cell and the performance is orders of magnitude better than my previous cells.

I can only say the Silica is the tricky in this case.

Fausto.

[ibpointless2]

I've made 4 micro crystal glue cell and put them in series to light a LED. I want to make more and put in a box and have it run some more LED's. The crystal glue cell contains a heptahydrate (Epsom salt) in it. Here is a video of it Mini Crystal Glue cell powering LED - YouTube

[John_Bedini]

Magnesium Hydrate

@John or Chuck,

Could one add Magnesium Hydrate or Aluminum Hydrate (depending on your anode) to liquid Sodium Silicate in order to form either magnesium or aluminum silicate hydrate, then heat that to form a crystal? Then, you'd crush and add this to your hepahydrate and dope accordingly, under heat.

I believe this would be an easy and cheap way to hydrate and transform the sodium silicate to the proper anode being used.

I'm finding it hard to source Sodium Silicate (5,6,8,9) Hydrate and aluminum/magnesium hydrate are easy to find and buy.

rw

You could give it a try but it may not be the same
John B

[everyidea]

@John or Chuck,

Could one add Magnesium Hydrate or Aluminum Hydrate (depending on your anode) to liquid Sodium Silicate in order to form either magnesium or aluminum silicate hydrate, then heat that to form a crystal? Then, you'd crush and add this to your hepahydrate and dope accordingly, under heat.

I believe this would be an easy and cheap way to hydrate and transform the sodium silicate to the proper anode being used.

I'm finding it hard to source Sodium Silicate (5,6,8,9) Hydrate and aluminum/magnesium hydrate are easy to find and buy.

rw

[everyidea]

@Allen Burgess,

The cross section of old MR cells show yellow, which is quite possibly PbTiO3. So, it looks like there's more than just sodiummetasilikat in the old cells, for they would just be white inside.

rw