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[NickZ]

Jim:
No, I haven't, I was talking about your cells. I like the idea of the the dry layered pile effect that can also be pressed together. You seam to be doing great with them.
If I can get the Mg, and the rest of the mix I would makes some cells like yours, but that is not available here.
I'm still working with the carbon/quarts dry cells, and looking to make an oscillator that will work well with hardly no current needed. Most of my oscillators don't work with the no current non galvanic type cells.
NZ

[jehdds]

Ib2:
I also made cells like my carbon/quartz cells that can output several volts when placed in serie, but with practically no current. I find that even at 7.5 volts they won't light an led, with out using an oscillator.

Jim: I love your Carbon/Mg cells. They can be put in a press and piled up.

Nick,
Have you made some? What mix did you use?
Jim

[NickZ]

Ib2:
I also made cells like my carbon/quartz cells that can output several volts when placed in serie, but with practically no current. I find that even at 7.5 volts they won't light an led, with out using an oscillator.

Jim: I love your Carbon/Mg cells. They can be put in a press and piled up.

[ibpointless2]

Its a new morning and the Sodium silicate & Epsom salt cell that I made yesterday is dried out and is hard. But the cell is now resting at a steady 1.557 volts @ 60uA. This when first made was giving over 1.600 volts @ over 5mA, but as it dried out its now resting at a lower amp but the volts almost stayed the same. For a dry cell I would consider this a good one. If i used a bigger piece of magnesium I would have gotten more power, If i used a magnesium anode like Bedini does in his alum cells I'm sure I would be at 1mA. This type of mixture would do better in a copper cap or copper cup. Right now the material looks almost white. I have not added any water to this cell, and i'm sure if i add water the amps will go up.

I've always figure the higher we can get the voltage and the lower we can get the amps the better we would be off. Tom Bearden always talked about how voltage is given to use from nature, and voltage can be used to power a load. Tom Bearden tried to make a circuit that would only pull voltage from from a battery because current lags behind voltage, and if you only pull voltage from a battery than you never drain the battery. Now what if we're making the batteries that give you voltage but no current, if you're pulling little to no current from a battery than you're never destroying the battery and nature will keep supplying the voltage for free. Sometimes I feel like I'm making the thing that Tom talks about in his book but instead of using a circuit I'm using a battery that's been made to only give voltage and little to no current. You can power a load on just voltage, it is possible, and if you never use any current you never destroy a battery. But this is just a thought of mine that's been floating in my head.

[mikrovolt]

Clay, also called PHYLLOSILICATES

[mklimesh]

Talc

Mike Klimesh

[everyidea]

Talc

I would guess Talc. Soapstone is also made up of mostly talc, so that could be it too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talc

For those wondering about Sodium Silicate crystallization phases when heated, I posted a link regarding them many pages ago. Here it is again.

http://144.206.159.178/FT/627/536386/14042576.pdf

Thanks again everyone for sharing your discoveries.

rw

[FrozenWaterLab]

This is really hot news !

Frzn water, John has made recommendation to IBpointless on how to improve using pure magnesium and he explained the hepta hydrate.
You can build on the experimentation of many of the guys just to mention a few. Jehdds work is way ahead of its time
and Plengo's adaptation is exceptional.

Yes I read that after my post. JB was asking us to figure it out for ourselves and I'm lost in that department. Guess I'll just linger till I can learn more of the way to do it and muddle along with the basics till then
Tnks for the response
FrznWtr

[redrichie]

Rock salt? Or sea salt.

[ibpointless2]

Ibpointless,
What do think the compound is? to get magnesium silicate you would need to cook this over time dissolving the magnesium grains and it would start the reaction all by itself.
After you have that compound you can re-melt it with the Epsom Salts by adding a little water to form a Magnesium Hydrate and then fill the cell.
You need to find out what you have made, if you look at it under a microscope you will see just what material it is. It has mimicked a rock that is mined and used everywhere. I'm not going to say what it is at this time as I want to see if the group can tell me what it is.
John B

A rock that is mined and used everywhere. We don't mine for just any old rocks, they have to be of some use which means its got to make someone money. So what is a rock that is mined and used everywhere? A few rocks come to my mind. The first thing that comes to mind is gold. Also copper, coal, and granite come to mind too.

I'm sitting here looking at the cell. It has pits and holes much like a rock would have. The texture is rough and complex. It feels dense and has a little weight to it, but the weight could be from the copper sheet it rest on. This riddle is fun.

[Dan S]

John B or Chuck H, is it calcium carbonate?

[jehdds]

Chuck,
Ok,
Bottom of the 9th,
Two up and two down.
Will this be the end of the inning?
The pitch....
Dolomite...........

[chuck H]

Run time

if you put that cell inside a bottle (like I did on my videos) you will see the water condensation on the walls of the bottle which means that indeed you have absorption of water by the cell and evaporation all at the same time.

You will also notice something very strange if you use a LED. The water will condensate AROUND the area where the LED is shinning. Very strange!!!

THat's why I am testing cells inside the plastic bottle. They all stand much longer in time running. That does not mean the Mg is not consume though.

Fausto.

@ plengo and all:

Very good!

[plengo]

yeah i was think the same thing about the Epsom salt will absorb water from the air but something else is happening. The cell keeps loosing power. If the cell was using water as the median than the amps would stay the same or go up. So if the Epsom salt was absorbing water from the air than the cell would still be holding its amps or going up in amps but its not. Since the cell is going down in power then I would assume its loosing its water content. The cell is still above 1.5 volts @ ~3mA.

You also must keep in mind that when I combine the Epsom salt with the sodium silicate it became some very different now. Its a magnesium-silicate-sulfate compound now.

if you put that cell inside a bottle (like I did on my videos) you will see the water condensation on the walls of the bottle which means that indeed you have absorption of water by the cell and evaporation all at the same time.

You will also notice something very strange if you use a LED. The water will condensate AROUND the area where the LED is shinning. Very strange!!!

THat's why I am testing cells inside the plastic bottle. They all stand much longer in time running. That does not mean the Mg is not consume though.

Fausto.

[chuck H]

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@ jehdds and all:
No