Bedini Earth Light

[NickZ]

Plengo and All:
Since I found that all my aluminum/carbon cells have lost most of their output due to them drying out inside. I made a small hole on top of each cell and have been giving them some water, which almost immediately returns them to their original output. If I add salt water to them the output goes from one volt to 1.6 volts, and the current also goes up from 1 to 3 mAs.
At least now I know why my cells stopped working, and that even when they are sealed they still will dry out inside.
Now the next thing is to deal with the oxidation that will affect the aluminum capacitor cans that I use. Any ideas on this are welcome.

For those that did not read the attachments that MK1 sent us a few post back, please do so. I feel that it is very important find, that's never been discussed before.
ETs or not, someone is trying to help us.
NickZ

[plengo]

I see what you mean now. I believe that what started as an honest effort has now become "teathered" and they now act like a marinet.
Up until now, I've always thought of them as a reputable organization that I could trust. I see now that I was probably wrong on that. Thank you for making me aware of this.

if you want to thrust someone here are two:

http://free-energy-info.co.uk/

Panacea University - Home

Fausto.

[griplets]

Copper & Iron Pyrite

John B,

Can you please help me with this...

In one of your videos you said that the Iron Pyrite fused to the Copper became Iron Oxide. Therefore rather than fuse the Iron Pyrite to the copper is it possible to ad a layer of Iron Oxide to the copper and get the same effect?

If this is possible which oxide is best? There are a number of Iron Oxides on the internet (strem.com), including some that are in liquid form and are magnetic.

If applying an iron oxide layer is not a good idea can you please help me understand why?

Also can you please specify what temperature you put the copper in the kiln at to create the oxide layer and for how long?

Thank you, Alex.

[Herbie687]

I see now.

Herbie,
The question is do you believe in them and would you bring anything to them? I have dealt with groups like that, and that is why I keep everything to myself under my control. Then look at who they have helped, they are a non-profit where charity begins at home. Show me what they have done for poor villages. Do I need to let them make a new weapon for space?
The organization has been infiltrated over the years. Back to Cells.
John B

I see what you mean now. I believe that what started as an honest effort has now become "teathered" and they now act like a marinet.
Up until now, I've always thought of them as a reputable organization that I could trust. I see now that I was probably wrong on that. Thank you for making me aware of this.

[John_Bedini]

The question is do you believe in them

What?......
I believe you, but I need you to back up your statement.

Herbie,
The question is do you believe in them and would you bring anything to them? I have dealt with groups like that, and that is why I keep everything to myself under my control. Then look at who they have helped, they are a non-profit where charity begins at home. Show me what they have done for poor villages. Do I need to let them make a new weapon for space?
The organization has been infiltrated over the years. Back to Cells.

For instance, in the case of WITTS or Orion Project, i have not heard of anyone getting ANYTHING tangible in return except words. Orion has never given out any information about their "technologies" that has any meaning... And last year they were claiming the "Stanley Meyer Equipment" was in their possession. We now know this was not the truth.... but they certainly used it to fund-raise on. then two months ago, Dr. Steven Greer comes out with a frankly ridiculous and incredulous story that "his" scientist was kidnapped and held hostage by M.I.B.'s in an underground NWO bunker. This story conveniently came out at a time when he was being pressed to explain why "Disclosure" did not happen in October 2009 as he had repeated claimed it would; and why there is absolutely nothing to show regarding the technologies he has talked about raised money for.


John B

[Herbie687]

It's run by the CIA in disguise, known as the black hats. but it look good doesn't it.
John

What?......
I believe you, but I need you to back up your statement.

[John_Bedini]

I'm also wondering John B.: How come you haven't taken your SG to the Orion Project?

It's run by the CIA in disguise, known as the black hats. but it look good doesn't it.
John

[Herbie687]

I agree with you.

Ibpointlass2,
In answer to your question yes, But see all this suppression is over with. I encourage you to build them big and show us all up here.

Ibpointless2 as I have said before free energy is a term that is misused. What we are doing here is just touching the surface. We have just about studied it all.

We have been from a dry state to the water state. So which one is going to work the best. It's funny how people view circuits as all circuits are variations of the basic things, just like batteries or cells. This brings me to the point that some can make the SG work and others can not. I know that your a lot smarter then people give you credit for and do not think for one minute in time people are not listing to you. But I find those that have nothing good to say about anybody no matter what it is.

I had the SG group shut down because of that very thing I will do the same with the bashing sites as it is all about slander, especially when you will not give them the answers or the machine for free. They do not build things, they just sit there and analyze to the math they know, if it does not work out then they slander you and have a little peanut gallery of hecklers who agree with the Arm Chair Scientist who can not be exposed for who they work for.
But what they are looking for is to move their position up at work with a new invention which they invented by magic.

Anyway, Yes I know of him and the only time they are going to bother us is when you can produce mega-watts for free. There's a limit with what you can say and build with machines so let them all talk I'm still alive, and they do have the basics of the machines. So don't worry.
John B

I'm also wondering John B.: How come you haven't taken your SG to the Orion Project?

[Herbie687]

Be brave!

I can build bigger crystal cells and I have. I'm very fearful of what I put out their on youtube and the web. I fear if I show the big cells powering real loads I may end up like Arie M. DeGeus. Arie M. DeGeus was the inverter of a "free energy battery" but was killed in his car in the parking lot of a air port that I live very close to. Free-Energy Battery Inventor Killed at Airport?

Does anyone else Have these worries? John Bedini did you know of Arie M. DeGeus?

-Ibpointless
I've studied Free Energy Supression alot within the last year, and I've come to the same conclusion as Dr. Greer has come to. The braver, smarter,and more open your are, the better.
@Everyone: Please take some time to listen to this radioshow and spread it around. : Dr. Steven Greer & Dr. Ted Loder,January 13th 2012 - YouTube

Some other conclusions I have come to:
1. [Fact] DeGeus was murdered by some kind of ray gun to prevent a huge investment into his device that was about to occur.
2. [Fact] If you try to patent a Free Energy device, most of the time it will be denied or comfiscated (Gag-Order), although some get granted. I guess that depends on the examiner.
3. [Fact] If you try to capitalize on Free Energy, they (the powers that be) will attempt to surpress you as best as they can.
4. [Opinion] The only way a true Free Energy/OU device can get to market and be sucessfull is by
A. Useing an immeadiate and aggressive 100% laissez-faire business plan.
B. Keeping your business financed only by friends, family, donations, and yourself.
C. Utilizing your 5th ammendment right as best as you can.

5. [Fact] John B. and Tom Bearden have exprienced supression in their ventures, and they speak about their experiences in the Energy From The Vacuum series and in Bearden's Book "Energy From The Vacuum", and as well as in his testimony Lt. Col. Tom Bearden - Open Source Energy Network - (Full Version) - YouTube

So don't be afraid. If Alex Jones is still on You Tube, I think you will be too. Just don't try to capitalize on your work without a Well thought-out plan.

If you still feel afraid, look into building your own "Out-of-the-box" Weaponry. I have found multiple ideas on the web that can be easily weaponized and can be very powerful. Just go out and look if you would like.
Send me a PM if you want to talk more about this.

@Any Interested:
Supression doesn't always have to do with Free Energy or UFO's. Take a look at how the case of Andrew Breitbart is SO similar to the case of Eugene Mallove.

[John_Bedini]

Arm Chair Scientist

I can build bigger crystal cells and I have. I'm very fearful of what I put out their on youtube and the web. I fear if I show the big cells powering real loads I may end up like Arie M. DeGeus. Arie M. DeGeus was the inverter of a "free energy battery" but was killed in his car in the parking lot of a air port that I live very close to. Free-Energy Battery Inventor Killed at Airport?

Does anyone else Have these worries? John Bedini did you know of Arie M. DeGeus?

Ibpointlass2,
In answer to your question yes, But see all this suppression is over with. I encourage you to build them big and show us all up here.

Ibpointless2 as I have said before free energy is a term that is misused. What we are doing here is just touching the surface. We have just about studied it all.

We have been from a dry state to the water state. So which one is going to work the best. It's funny how people view circuits as all circuits are variations of the basic things, just like batteries or cells. This brings me to the point that some can make the SG work and others can not. I know that your a lot smarter then people give you credit for and do not think for one minute in time people are not listing to you. But I find those that have nothing good to say about anybody no matter what it is.

I had the SG group shut down because of that very thing I will do the same with the bashing sites as it is all about slander, especially when you will not give them the answers or the machine for free. They do not build things, they just sit there and analyze to the math they know, if it does not work out then they slander you and have a little peanut gallery of hecklers who agree with the Arm Chair Scientist who can not be exposed for who they work for.
But what they are looking for is to move their position up at work with a new invention which they invented by magic.

Anyway, Yes I know of him and the only time they are going to bother us is when you can produce mega-watts for free. There's a limit with what you can say and build with machines so let them all talk I'm still alive, and they do have the basics of the machines. So don't worry.
John B

[griplets]

Iron Pyrite Fused To Copper

John,

In one of your videos you said that the Iron Pyrite fused to the Copper became Iron Oxide. Therefore rather than fuse the Iron Pyrite to the copper is it possible to ad a layer of Iron Oxide to the copper and get the same effect?

If this is possible which oxide is best? There are a number of Iron Oxides on the strem.com site, including some that are in liquid form and magnetic.

Thank you, Alex.

[ibpointless2]

I can build bigger crystal cells and I have. I'm very fearful of what I put out their on youtube and the web. I fear if I show the big cells powering real loads I may end up like Arie M. DeGeus. Arie M. DeGeus was the inverter of a "free energy battery" but was killed in his car in the parking lot of a air port that I live very close to. Free-Energy Battery Inventor Killed at Airport?

Does anyone else Have these worries? John Bedini did you know of Arie M. DeGeus?

[NickZ]

John and Chuck:
Hey guys, here's short video made by another guy connecting his earth battery to a BwJt, to light 10 leds. It's one more replication, of this type of oscillator circuit.
I've heard Kooler mention that adding a small inductor on the negative rail of the circuit on the battery side can help.

Modded Kooler's Backwards Joule Thief Connected to Earth Battery - YouTube

[Neight]

Neight, here is a video I posted awhile back...

Crystal battery charging crystal battery - YouTube

chuck H

Thanks for posting that link Chuck
good to know that I am still not completely out of the crystal cell scope, since mine did charge.
when I added the cells together, I did inspect each plate, and there is absolutely no evidence of corrosion, though since I used iron and magnesium in the internal cell ingredients, there is a high possibility that those are being eaten away first, and once they are gone, it will start attacking the aluminum. That would explain the lack of plate corrosion, and why the cell performance had dwindled a bit over the last week.

I am thoroughly confused at this point, but I will keep plugging away at it until I have it figured out, or can go no further on my limited experience

Thanks for sharing

N8

[NickZ]

It may be possible that those diodes (or something similar) has something to do with why he got the results that he did, which nobody else has gotten. They may make the oscillator work as a one way charge pump back to source, that without them may only produce just nominal results.