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[Michael Kishline]

Bismuth 12 GA Shot

Some of you may laugh but I have found something that is interesting and it concerns bismuth. Bismuth subsalicylate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Bismuth subsalicylate is the only active ingredient in an over the counter medication that will leave a shiny metal oxide slag behind after being completely burnt with a blow torch."

I think I need to get my hands on Pepto-Bismol, fist test it as a electrolyte and than make it a electrode.

@IB I reload my own ammo and actually started using Bismuth shot used in my 12 Gauge shotgun shells. You can pick up a bag at your local firearms retailer that carries reloading equipment. They switched over years ago from Lead for environmental reasons.

I have Bismuth on my bench that I melted down to experiment with. Everything has been put on hold for a while as far as participation and building do to family health issues, but I'm trying to keep up on the forum progress.

Great Job Guys, keep up the great work.

Thanks John Bedini for all your time and effort.

Mike

[b_rads]

Red hematite iron ore

Red hematite iron ore:
Red
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Mountain_(Birmingham)
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@IB: Could your discovery lead to a fossil fuel crystal battery?

[Herbie687]

The bottle says its 99.97% pure.

That's really weird dude. It should be the negative, but it's not.

[ibpointless2]

And so I shall start to see if it is so in the morning.
That's also a great discovery on the bismuth! We should now get even more voltage out now using magnesium.
That's wierd though! It has an electronegativity of 2.02. Did you use pure bismuth, or was it an ore/mineral form of it?
"Nothing ventured is nothing gained."

The bottle says its 99.97% pure.

[Neight]

(*crystal-to-rock*) - is what i meant, sorry.
but yes, Since I don't have any pryrite on me now, it would be nice to see if the Copper-Pryrite & Copper-Crystal combinations isolated from each other would produce any significant voltage.

I finally got a video uploaded, and for some reason it cut off the first minute. I really had a terrible time with getting this video from the camera to youtube, which is what caused most of the delay.
It did manage to leave in all the important bits, and I run the same test with several different combinations of things, and I start out with just the copper and iron pyrite isolated from each other. I show the voltage and the amp reading from those two, then show several other combinations.

here is the link -
Crystal Voltage - YouTube

if anyone has any suggestions, or anything they would like to see me try, I am more than happy to film more tests on request

N8

[John_K]

John B

John B,

Could you please go to the Ferris Wheel thread and let me know what you think about what I posted about Ed's wheel?


John K.

[John_Bedini]

Willard Battery

Hey Chuck and Bedini,

on the last video you showed this very old cute battery. You mention you have many. Would you sell a few and for how much, please?

Fausto.

Fausto,
That is and 1951 Willard battery that I bought back when I was doing pulse charging experiments. Believe me Fausto you do not want that battery or maybe you do. They were 6 volt cells used for the Korean War.
The reason we used them was you could see right through them. I pointed them out to Chuck to try and fill that with Alum for the test as we could always empty them back out. It's not a real good battery as they leak allot. But you must collect these antique relics. Peter L filled his house with smoke as the charger burned up as they are very hard to charge, since they were never formed, shiny led plates. I think the shipping would be the thing that would cost Fausto and they my not let us ship that thing. "Where is it shipping to" I might have 6 or 7 left.
John B.

[Neight]

(*crystal-to-rock*) - is what i meant, sorry.
but yes, Since I don't have any pryrite on me now, it would be nice to see if the Copper-Pryrite & Copper-Crystal combinations isolated from each other would produce any significant voltage.

[Neight]

Now my curiosity is up even more....
Ran some quick tests, and two crystals (in this case rose quarts and the small blue rock from my video) will give me voltage without any iron pyrite, or metallic shell.
I cleaned out the small cup I had, and put fresh sterilized water in it, and tested the crystals, and got a few mV's. I added a tiny bit of table salt again, and got a bit more voltage. Here is the tricky part, no matter which rock I probe with the positive test lead, the voltage comes up negative
I have switched them again and again, and have yet to see it venture into positive territory without some form of metal in the dish. Just seeing it make voltage is interesting enough, but no positive pole, how does that even work?

I sat here and tried so many crystal combinations, I finally just had to stop...
every single one of them gave me some small level of voltage, and every single one of them was both poles negative on the meter...

I might try some of these better ones with the iron pyrite, or maybe just the crystal and the copper piece and see what I get out of that.

it wont make useful voltage, and I have yet to see any current, but it's neat anyway

[Herbie687]

Hey Herbie
I thought it was pretty cool myself! at the very least unexpected. The first time I tested them, there was no copper in there, I added the copper after testing the quartz with the metallic shell, and getting a tiny bit of voltage. It really didn't help at all, and the salt only made a minimal difference. Testing the rocks other than quartz also gives me voltage with no copper plate. I have lots of these different crystals and rocks, and can keep testing them, see what gives the best results (provided I can even identify them well enough to report back which ones worked )
I haven't tried any combination that didn't include the iron pyrite, but may try that as well and see what I get...
I can shoot a video if you like showing the voltage, sans copper, but try as I might, it wont make any current.

(*crystal-to-rock*) - is what i meant, sorry.
but yes, Since I don't have any pryrite on me now, it would be nice to see if the Copper-Pryrite & Copper-Crystal combinations isolated from each other would produce any significant voltage.

[Neight]

Wow... the rock demo at the end was surprising and wierd, but cool. I'm thinking the copper is also acting as an electrode though. If you try that again, but if you connect a clip lead crystal-to-crystal, you would be able to get a better measurement of that system as you factor in the copper. The voltage measured may just be the difference from 2 different cells using the same copper electrode, but that needs to be verified.

Hey Herbie
I thought it was pretty cool myself! at the very least unexpected. The first time I tested them, there was no copper in there, I added the copper after testing the quartz with the metallic shell, and getting a tiny bit of voltage. It really didn't help at all, and the salt only made a minimal difference. Testing the rocks other than quartz also gives me voltage with no copper plate. I have lots of these different crystals and rocks, and can keep testing them, see what gives the best results (provided I can even identify them well enough to report back which ones worked )
I haven't tried any combination that didn't include the iron pyrite, but may try that as well and see what I get...
I can shoot a video if you like showing the voltage, sans copper, but try as I might, it wont make any current.

[Herbie687]

and now for video 2 -
2cells=1 battery (part 2) + crystal cell battery charger, and foolsgold quarts cell! - YouTube
this one just shows the light output of the two cells hooked in parallel, along with using this 2 cell battery to run a joule ringer AA battery charger, and a very quick demo using different rocks and crystals as electrodes.
enjoy

Wow... the rock demo at the end was surprising and wierd, but cool. I'm thinking the copper is also acting as an electrode though. If you try that again, but if you connect a clip lead crystal-to-crystal, you would be able to get a better measurement of that system as you factor in the copper. The voltage measured may just be the difference from 2 different cells using the same copper electrode, but that needs to be verified.

[jehdds]

@Jim & Fausto

Two things that you have touched on today I am also very interested in. The first one is titanium dioxide. I started working with magnesium painted with white titanium dioxide acrylic artist paint several weeks ago.
@Jim
I worked with the "acetone cell" for a few days and discovered that it eats the mg the same way that water does. It was an interesting experiment but I am not going any further. The acetone is really too dangerous I decided. A tiny spark could start a fire.

Lidmotor

Dear Lidmotor,
You will need Pure TiO2 and not paint. Thanks for playing with the Acetone cell. I again did this more to show that "water" was not the critical item in so far as more perhaps a "polar" molecule. To be sure, Water is much nicer to work with. Acetone cells are NOT advocated in any way. It is easier to keep water in the lattice. Some of my first cells which were ZnO, TiO2 Epsoms and doping acted as the fuel cell functioning. It does work.
Very Best Regards,
Jim

[Herbie687]

If you use rust from steel than you going to have red dust that falls off into the water solution. Even though rust is iron-oxide and so is hematite I don't think you can compare them that easy. Hematite is mostly a giant glob of iron-oxide compressed from pressures from earth and the environment. If you can make rust and compress it into a solid object and it works than that's great! Or coat the rust onto something that's not steel/iron than that will work too. Only way to find out is to do it. Nothing ventured is nothing gained.

And so I shall start to see if it is so in the morning.
That's also a great discovery on the bismuth! We should now get even more voltage out now using magnesium.
That's wierd though! It has an electronegativity of 2.02. Did you use pure bismuth, or was it an ore/mineral form of it?
"Nothing ventured is nothing gained."

[plengo]

Hey Chuck and Bedini,

on the last video you showed this very old cute battery. You mention you have many. Would you sell a few and for how much, please?

Fausto.