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  • plengo
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    @Aaron,

    This morning I came here to see that the site was for sale. I try to buy so that no one would take it. I am glad you solved this problem. If I had actually succeeded in buying I would transfer back to you.

    Fausto.

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  • b_rads
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    Originally posted by ibpointless2 View Post
    Did you make bioplastic and then added the crystal mix into that? If so then that sounds great!
    @ibpointless2:
    I followed as close as I could the method shown in this video.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M_eDLyfzp8


    Brad S

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  • ibpointless2
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    Originally posted by b_rads View Post
    Yet another way to make the crystal cell.

    Bioplastic Crystal Power Cell - YouTube

    @plengo, @ibpointless2:
    I hope you do not mind my taking liberties with your crystal recipe.

    Thanks,
    Brad S
    Did you make bioplastic and then added the crystal mix into that? If so then that sounds great!

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  • b_rads
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    Bioplastic Crystal Cell

    Yet another way to make the crystal cell.

    Bioplastic Crystal Power Cell - YouTube

    @plengo, @ibpointless2:
    I hope you do not mind my taking liberties with your crystal recipe.

    Thanks,
    Brad S

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  • plengo
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    interesting article: MIT’s photonic crystals lead towards nuclear batteries everywhere | ExtremeTech

    Fausto.

    @IB,

    I would assume we do have two kinds of galvanic. Lead acid batteries have the same effect (one gets bigger and the other gets smaller) and both electrodes are Lead.

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  • ibpointless2
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    Originally posted by John_Bedini View Post
    Ibpointless2,
    Yes I have seen this with poor Magnesium, but then again, what is the liquid your using? It seems the galvanic action is right in the metal.
    JB

    There was two magnesium ribbons in the picture each got opposite solution than the other. One magnesium is white and is corroding away as seen in the picture along the edge its missing some pieces. The other magnesium is black and not corroding. The white one is white due to the magnesium becoming magnesium oxide which is white. As for the black one I don't know what its becoming.

    Each strip is placed in a cup with it the liquid mix and no other metal is added. The magnesium sits in the cup for a few days and I study it. I've been doing this to find a liquid that doesn't corrode the Magnesium ribbon since the ribbon is so prone to corrode.

    What is more interesting is when I take each strip and see what amps it gives me compared to a control magnesium strip. Every time the black strip gives more current than the control and the white one always gives less. I guess it would seem that we have a subtractive galvanic's and a additive galvanic's (just a theory).

    As for the liquids, the White magnesium ribbon was placed in water and "salt" mix by itself left to sit for a few days. The black magnesium ribbon was left in distilled water by itself for a few days.

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  • jehdds
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    Originally posted by John_Bedini View Post
    Jim,
    Yes that is part of it, but Galvanic action usually last much longer then what the video is showing as the voltage should keep rising to the metals full potential and the current keeps increasing until impedance is reached
    JB
    John,
    Thank You.
    I agree, The galvanic should last MUCH longer. So, What are we seeing?
    Hypothesis:
    Initiation of Ionic conduction WITHIN the Lattice Matrix that is between TWO distinct Potentials as established by the discrepancy of the carbon and Mg. The dipole is exacerbated by or realized and seen by the water filling the crystalline matrix. The equalization or transient decrease in current is the stabilization of the dipole within the body of the crystal substrate. Is this correct or on the right path?
    Thank you so much for your perspective.
    Jim

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  • John_Bedini
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    Inoc, Galvanic

    Originally posted by jehdds View Post
    John,
    Do you agree it is lattice vibration as the source of the Microamp current I showed on my last video, ionic conduction etc?
    Or is it possible that the water in that minute amount could initiate galvanic response?
    Thank you for your insight on this.
    Very Best Regards,
    Jim

    Jim,
    Yes that is part of it, but Galvanic action usually last much longer then what the video is showing as the voltage should keep rising to the metals full potential and the current keeps increasing until impedance is reached
    JB

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  • John_Bedini
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    yes I seen this

    Originally posted by ibpointless2 View Post
    Hey John Bedini,

    In the picture below I have two strips of magnesium ribbon. Each strip was treated to a different liquid. One strip is turning black while the other is turning white and is falling apart. Have you seen this before? Its very interesting. The black one seems to be holding itself together while the white one decays away.

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    Ibpointless2,
    Yes I have seen this with poor Magnesium, but then again, what is the liquid your using? It seems the galvanic action is right in the metal. The black looks like zinc, and I have seen that with other metals.
    JB
    Last edited by John_Bedini; 02-05-2012, 09:31 PM. Reason: adding more

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  • jehdds
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    John,
    Do you agree it is lattice vibration as the source of the Microamp current I showed on my last video, ionic conduction etc?
    Or is it possible that the water in that minute amount could initiate galvanic response?
    Thank you for your insight on this.
    Very Best Regards,
    Jim

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  • Aaron
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    Crystal Water Battery

    Please move any conversation about the crystal water battery kits to this thread:

    http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...r-battery.html (new discussion thread)

    Here is is the Tesla Chargers Crystal Water Battery kit website:

    Crystal Water Battery (new kit page)

    This is the lowest price available as an introductory special.

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  • ibpointless2
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    Hey John Bedini,

    In the picture below I have two strips of magnesium ribbon. Each strip was treated to a different liquid. One strip is turning black while the other is turning white and is falling apart. Have you seen this before? Its very interesting. The black one seems to be holding itself together while the white one decays away.

    Two strips of magnesium ribbon.JPG

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  • John_Bedini
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    Crystal Batteries

    Originally posted by ibpointless2 View Post
    Crystal Water Battery

    Crystal Water Battery

    Ibpontless2,
    Here are some links for you. I'm not the only one trying to get this out into the public. If you have a better way let us know, most of this goes to schools.
    JB

    Water-activated battery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Low-Cost Rechargeable Magnesium Batteries with High Energy Density

    Japanese inventor touts water-powered battery -- Engadget

    The Truth About Toyota’s New Magnesium Battery | Popular Science

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  • ibpointless2
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    Crystal Water Battery

    Crystal Water Battery

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  • NextGen1967
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    Originally posted by John_Bedini View Post
    NextGen1967,
    What mix are you talking about here?. 3000 Ohms is real high, so the cell is doing this at room temp. so have you loaded this cell with 3 K resistor and let it stand? Ok got it
    John B
    John,

    Yes, you saw my added info in the post above right.

    Reason for doing this test is that I saw this voltage variation with placing a cell in ones hand on a lot of different types off cells, and Lidmotor did his 'hot coffee cup' observation...

    Particularly the fact that *after* heating and cool down again to starting temperate, the voltage is more HIGH then were it was at start of test intrigued me. (Lidmotor also noted a same or similar effect on his cell).

    So I did a -simple not too accurate yet- test to try to find a description of *what* and *why* such is happening.

    I am limited in my time and at some later point in time I will do a more controlled test with a higher degree of accuracy and graphing both cell voltage , amperage , humidity and temp.

    --
    Ron.

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