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[b_rads]

Protecting your metals.

@all:
From United States Patent 6,544,686 B1 April 8, 2003.
Metal-Alkaline Battery Cells with Reduced Corrosion Rates.

This patent proposes a method of protecting metals, what is interesting though is this paragraph in the background information for the patent. This is the last paragraph.

[MonsieurM]

Just wanted to mention that your Crystal Battery experiments are not limited only to lighting LEDs but also http://www.energeticforum.com/agricu...o-culture.html .... and it works Electro Culture ... and you guys already have the Antenna ( ie your crystal )

thought this might interest some of you : D

an easy way to screw with Monsanto

[NickZ]

There are many different types of greases. The dielectric grease normally don't conduce electricity, like the ones sold in the auto parts stores, which are mainly used on spark plugs. Some other greases do conduct, but most do not.
I use the electrical conducting grease, as it helps fight the oxidation, without detracting from the cell's output. It is used by the electric companies here, for aluminum/copper connections that are outside and in the weather, getting wet when it rains. It really does help, especially on any outside of the cell connections that are exposed to air. I will also try it on the inside of the cells as well.
The grease that Plengo is mentioning seems like a good one, as it has oxidation fighting chemicals in it also.

I feel that it is really the oxygen that's in the air that is detrimental, more so than the galvanic effect, so if we can protect the cells from the affects of the air, they should work much better and for a longer amount of time.
NickZ

[ibpointless2]

I fail to mention that i created a baseline cell with electric grease using the infamous Magnesium strips that corrode very fast.

The base cell IS NOT corroding in one week of usage. Impossible!

Fausto.

Can you do the same test again but instead of water use distilled white vinegar. I fear the grease is acting like petroleum jelly.

[Allwest]

I fail to mention that i created a baseline cell with electric grease using the infamous Magnesium strips that corrode very fast.

The base cell IS NOT corroding in one week of usage. Impossible!

Fausto.

Thats great news Fausto,

I found that you can pile on the dielectric grease, it will decrease power at first, but it will out last the light coated ones in power over the long run

Good luck

[plengo]

I fail to mention that i created a baseline cell with electric grease using the infamous Magnesium strips that corrode very fast.

The base cell IS NOT corroding in one week of usage. Impossible!

Fausto.

[plengo]

I am using something very similar to this (Sanchem NOOXID electrical grease & electrically conductive grease dielectric grease and contact lubricants) and can tell it works VERY WELL.

My cells are much more powerful and so far no corrosion signs anywhere. It is a little bit early for conclusively prove that but I have some cells that I will wait a few months and open.

So far the results are very impressive. The cells keeps for much, much longer their current and voltage besides being a much higher current too, on the range of 20ma to 30ma.

I think you guys should try it out.

Fausto.

[Allwest]

If you think about what we use for energy as far as commercial and bodily use you would find some pretty interesting substances.

Commercial:
Uranium
Thorium (seen in a previous post here) 30 year half life

Bodily:
H2o
potassium

What about carbon nanotubes? I seen a link to a scientist who made a ink of carbon nanotubes that when spread on paper formed a almost indestructible battery that could even be washed and wrinkled.
At Stanford, nanotubes + ink + paper = instant battery

vintasalo,

You are right, we run on electrolytes and water for our electrical system

[Allwest]

OK, now I'm confused. I don't know what I'm using. If it's the sodium silicate pellets, or the calcium chloride pellets. As it seams that both are used for the same purpose. So, if somebody can clear this up, so that I can identify the unknown source of these little round pellets that I'm using, please do so.
BTW: Whatever they are, it is working very well to control oxidation.

Silica gel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What I have been using looks like this picture of the Silicate Gel:
Desiccant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nick, you are working with:

:Silica gel is most commonly encountered in everyday life as beads in a small (typically 2 cm x 3 cm) paper packet:

[vintasalo]

substance

If you think about what we use for energy as far as commercial and bodily use you would find some pretty interesting substances.

Commercial:
Uranium
Thorium (seen in a previous post here) 30 year half life

Bodily:
H2o
potassium

What about carbon nanotubes? I seen a link to a scientist who made a ink of carbon nanotubes that when spread on paper formed a almost indestructible battery that could even be washed and wrinkled.
At Stanford, nanotubes + ink + paper = instant battery

[NickZ]

OK, now I'm confused. I don't know what I'm using. If it's the sodium silicate pellets, or the calcium chloride pellets. As it seams that both are used for the same purpose. So, if somebody can clear this up, so that I can identify the unknown source of these little round pellets that I'm using, please do so.
BTW: Whatever they are, it is working very well to control oxidation.

Silica gel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What I have been using looks like this picture of the Silicate Gel:
Desiccant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[NickZ]

Allwest:
I found some pellets in a little bag that was in my camera case, it's so old that I don't know what it is. But it looks like it could be the calcium chloride pellets that you are talking about, to keep things dry. So I'll make a solution of them in water, and also add them to in my wet carbon electrolyte mix, to try on the aluminum carbon cells.
Thanks for posting the info on calcium chloride pellets. I'm sure they'll come in handy.

[NickZ]

Allwest:
Can you try the calcium chloride on aluminum to see if it also stays shiny.
I've been having some luck with using the silica pellets, and making a solution of water and pellets, and watering my cells with it. It seams to be protecting the aluminum, so far, and combines and works well with the table salt, also.
It was good to see Brad's video of the Al/Cu cells running on table salt and vinegar. I'm going to try that sometime... just to see if I can get over the 100mA mark.

[Allwest]

Thanks for uploading that link to John and Chucks One amp cell. I could not find it, after I had first viewed it a while back. Maybe that cell is one of the reasons that they have not mentioned anything else about it, or anything else lately. One amp? Maybe they're working on the 5 amp one, now, huh John?

I tried the Chili powder that is used on pizzas, but I didn't add the cheese, maybe that's why it didn't work for me. I'll try it again, but what is the calcium chloride, Dry Out product?

Here you go Nick
Dry Out® Dehumidifier in Charlotte | Charlotte Observer

Also, another thing on this product, if you get it wet (note: this product, if you leave it out over night unsealed, you will have a puddle of water)

Also, if you coat your mag with this, the mag stays sparkling clean even on Alum ......So far

Good luck

[Allwest]

@ Allwest: John and chuck : Crystal battery flooded - YouTube

By the way, good work Allwest it's very appreciated!!! The calcium chloride is a very good ion exchanger. Maybe you found an another piece in this puzzle.

Thanks CrystalDipoleMatrix for finding the 1 amp cell

And your welcome

Have we had any update on the cell output after 30 min?