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  • NickZ
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    John B:
    To obtain the black layer, does the copper need to be quickly cooled in water, or slowly normally cooled in the air, two or three times?
    What is the best treatment layer for aluminum? I have no access to Mg.
    NickZ

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  • John_Bedini
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    copper black

    Voire,
    Turn the copper black about two to three times. What is going to happen is, the black oxide will become part of the crystal this will take time to combine with the hydrates. What will be left is the P device Salmon colored. This process forms a new compound crystal structure over time. The process will mimic Mn-03.
    John B

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  • voire
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    Black Semiconductor

    @John Bedini

    Hi, I just had a quick question. You showed firing the copper until it turned black. I'm able to get this effect with a blow torch, (I don't have a kiln) but do you reccomend heating the copper and letting it cool more than once? Or is the layer that develops after one heating sufficient? Thanks!

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  • John_Bedini
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    What is John up to

    @ All,
    Since you all are here you could be wondering what I'm up to. It is simple, to develop a cell that can be activated anywhere. How can this be done is simple, by building a crystal structure that can be painted on anything at any time. What do I mean by this, if you can grow a material and then bake it to form a stressed crystal all you need after that is water. What metals will I use to do this?.

    As each chemical crystal must be different for each set of two metals the mix is going to be much different. The process I have showed today is just the starting point with me as I have seen what I want, work pays off.

    The problem using Carbon or Graphite is that you must connect it with a wire. drilling and tapping for a screw adds impurity to the materials and it soon can be seen as some will just use some old screw. The plan is to get the working current high to run real low voltage circuits, it can be done with the correct oscillators. What will I make to work with all of this, Amplifiers, Radios, lights, motors and so on.

    The time frame, soon I will be showing this. I want to light my house with these cells and charge batteries for a drop of water. If the cell goes bad no big deal I will just cut a new piece of crystal and water it. That is what John is up to, what are you up to? So now you know my plan.
    Happy experimenting as my experiments are over I have seen what I want.
    John B

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  • John_Bedini
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    Amazing progress

    Originally posted by mikrovolt View Post
    Amazing progress !
    Would spring pressure on the magnesium disk help any ?
    Does this mean the ion to water ratio is higher while the pH remains the same.
    Is the thin film of water around the crystal an open door to the illusive natural ambient energy
    when the oscillator is active in turn there is a higher concentration while the copper has a lower concentration,
    every time the electrons cross the junction to the lower concentration the electrons at the end of the line
    have an affinity to attract a drude electron ?
    Prigogine crystal: an amorphous pellet or crystal made by sintering finely divided material at high temperature and pressure, in such fashion that the pellet becomes a highly stressed system far from thermodynamic equilibrium. Specifically, more than one type of material must be used, one ingredient of which must be piezoelectric, Rochelle salts . John B
    Last edited by John_Bedini; 02-09-2012, 05:27 AM. Reason: adding more information

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  • John_Bedini
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    Originally posted by redrichie View Post
    John b. First I would like to say thanks for sharing your knowledge on this. Second I would like to ask why. I've have heard you say multiple times that time is running out or we are headed for the dark ages. I understand you not saying what is coming. But it seems you have an urgency and a need to share this. I'm not looking to start any fuss or chaos. I am prepparing for what lay ahead. Could you give us a time frame as to when you think an everlasting LED would be real useful. Say like when we are in the dark ages or as you've said before when there are no lights. I am sorry if I have distracted from this thread. But to get any input from John on any number of things is an honor to me. Please keep up this very interesting lost science.
    Redrichie,
    I will answer your question in a little bit. and I will explain my moves toward this technology. It is important to you, but I will explain it.
    John B
    John B

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  • redrichie
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    thanks

    John b. First I would like to say thanks for sharing your knowledge on this. Second I would like to ask why. I've have heard you say multiple times that time is running out or we are headed for the dark ages. I understand you not saying what is coming. But it seems you have an urgency and a need to share this. I'm not looking to start any fuss or chaos. I am prepparing for what lay ahead. Could you give us a time frame as to when you think an everlasting LED would be real useful. Say like when we are in the dark ages or as you've said before when there are no lights. I am sorry if I have distracted from this thread. But to get any input from John on any number of things is an honor to me. Please keep up this very interesting lost science.

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  • mikrovolt
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    Amazing progress !
    Would spring pressure on the magnesium disk help any ?
    Does this mean the ion to water ratio is higher while the pH remains the same.
    Is the thin film of water around the crystal an open door to the illusive natural ambient energy
    when the oscillator is active in turn there is a higher concentration while the copper has a lower concentration,
    every time the electrons cross the junction to the lower concentration the electrons at the end of the line
    have an affinity to attract a drude electron ?
    Last edited by mikrovolt; 02-09-2012, 01:32 AM.

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  • everyidea
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    zeolite

    You can also buy zeolite at a pet/fish store, that's where I found mine. I agree, it didn't do much.

    rw

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  • chuck H
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    Zeolite

    Originally posted by mklimesh View Post
    The more I research this the Zeolite group seems to be where we are headed. They are metamorphic (formed from heat and pressure) and allow for ion flow.

    "zeolites have large vacant spaces or cages in their structures that allow space for large cations such as sodium, potassium, barium and calcium and even relatively large molecules and cation groups such as water, ammonia, carbonate ions and nitrate ions.
    In the more useful zeolites, the spaces are interconnected and form long wide channels of varying sizes depending on
    the mineral. These channels allow the easy movement of the resident ions and molecules into and out of the structure.
    Zeolites are characterized by their ability to lose and absorb water without damage to their crystal structures."

    Mineral Gallery - The Zeolite Group

    Mike Klimesh
    @ All: John and I tried the Zeolite months ago and found it did not help. I don't think We posted anything on it as it was not anything the group would want to try. If you want to try it there are 3 Zeolite mines in the U.S. All 3 are in southern Idaho. Bear river is 1 of them where We got this bag of Zeolite.
    Attached Files
    Last edited by chuck H; 02-09-2012, 04:34 AM. Reason: spelling

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  • John_Bedini
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    Originally posted by jehdds View Post
    Hi John,
    What material is the screen? Polymer? Any Polyacrylate type material?
    Thanks. Ok for call after 20:00 CST Ok?
    Jim
    Jim,
    It's fiberglass.
    John B

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  • Aaron
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    Bedini's Crystal Battery Presentation

    Here is a link directly to the info on John's talk at the upcoming conference: http://www.energeticforum.com/conference/#john you can see the rest of the conference details on that page.

    Here is the link to Chuck's bio as well http://www.energeticforum.com/conference/#chuck
    Last edited by Aaron; 02-08-2012, 11:10 PM.

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  • jehdds
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    Originally posted by John_Bedini View Post
    Here is a video of how I did this cell in a dry state ready to use just by adding water. The mixes you already have. The crystal material is in a screen with paper on the outside.
    How to build My Cell, Dry Mix.wmv
    How to build My Cell, Dry Mix.wmv - YouTube
    John Bedini
    Hi John,
    What material is the screen? Polymer? Any Polyacrylate type material?
    Thanks. Ok for call after 20:00 CST Ok?
    Jim

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  • John_Bedini
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    How I did It

    Here is a video of how I did this cell in a dry state ready to use just by adding water. The mixes you already have. The crystal material is in a screen with paper on the outside.
    How to build My Cell, Dry Mix.wmv
    How to build My Cell, Dry Mix.wmv - YouTube
    John Bedini
    Last edited by John_Bedini; 02-08-2012, 10:34 PM. Reason: edit

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  • mklimesh
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    Zeolites

    The more I research this the Zeolite group seems to be where we are headed. They are metamorphic (formed from heat and pressure) and allow for ion flow.

    "zeolites have large vacant spaces or cages in their structures that allow space for large cations such as sodium, potassium, barium and calcium and even relatively large molecules and cation groups such as water, ammonia, carbonate ions and nitrate ions.
    In the more useful zeolites, the spaces are interconnected and form long wide channels of varying sizes depending on
    the mineral. These channels allow the easy movement of the resident ions and molecules into and out of the structure.
    Zeolites are characterized by their ability to lose and absorb water without damage to their crystal structures."

    Mineral Gallery - The Zeolite Group

    Mike Klimesh

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