Muller generator replication by Romerouk

[elias]

I'd like to share with you an observation i made while searching the geometric figure called the flower of life...here is a version of it...and it is Fractal....

from:http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...netism-18.html





search this figure, it will give you the right ratios to build the correct coil...It is also called the Nested Circles

I thought of this but can you elaborate more on that, how can a 7filar coil be related to the seed of life?
See my weblog: blog.hexaheart.org

[mariuscivic]

Hi eweryone!
Please put some link(s) of romero's web site.
My google does,t want to find it
Thanks!

[obelix]

Hi all,

Perhaps it's time to oversee all the work done and have a look on all the tests made.
If you want, you can see an theorical work on this phenomena ...
I recommanded you to have a look at the work of Klaus Turtur. You can read the papers at :
Conversion of the zero-point energy of the vacuum
It's not exactly the observations made by you, but not very away from yours work....

Hope this helps just a little .....

Obelix

[MonsieurM]

Hi again great effort everyone below is some more info from romero. hope it helps ron



The effect can be replicated even with lower speeds if the coil is right.
I have no formula to calculate the proper coil, just a lot of work winding many times, adding or removing turns....
Any coil can speedup the system if the rpm is right.


Best regards,
Romero

I'd like to share with you an observation i made while searching the geometric figure called the flower of life...here is a version of it...and it is Fractal....

from:http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...netism-18.html





search this figure, it will give you the right ratios to build the correct coil...It is also called the Nested Circles

[toranarod]

Something that I have noticed before and hope to build a video to demo it is this:

I used about 300 turns of double filar coil of 1mm wire. When I loaded the first filar with an 80W 12V lamp it started to drag the rotor until it stabilized at a speed. Then I used the other filar in parallel to the first filar, what do you think that happened? Yes the drag decreased, increasing the speed of rotation, and the light became brighter drawing more current. I think that this is the effect that we must be looking to optimize. What do you think that will happen if I add another filar? And another one, and another one ... I don't know until I test it out.

Elias

I am very interested in this. Could you just draw a quick diagram and post.
I don't want to put you to much trouble. I would like to see the diagram just to be clear.

I think it has something to do with raising Inductance and lowering resistance.
What do you think?

[qvision]

Farmhand, nice one, Magluvin does good stuff, this is really interesting. I am puzzled as to why his magnet poles were in the vertical plane but his coils were horizontal though !


QV.

[Farmhand]

This is an interesting video by Magluvin.

Finding resonance lock with coil and rotor - YouTube

Note the lack of strong field around the generator coil without the capacitor.

[ron48]

Hi rodney
This is the last statement he made on his website yesterday, i am just putting up his comments to see if it helps you get to the breakthrough that we all are hoping for all the best ron.

ps he is about to start experimenting with different ways to do things but he has said he will not be the one to release a free energy machine after all the fuss it caused.

[elias]

Another suggestion for the Muller type is to have the top and the bottom coil not in perfect line.

This is an interesting statement. Not seen or heard of this before.
Is Romero going against what he was told to do when he had his other motor
taken. Or am i missing something?

Something that I have noticed before and hope to build a video to demo it is this:

I used about 300 turns of double filar coil of 1mm wire. When I loaded the first filar with an 80W 12V lamp it started to drag the rotor until it stabilized at a speed. Then I used the other filar in parallel to the first filar, what do you think that happened? Yes the drag decreased, increasing the speed of rotation, and the light became brighter drawing more current. I think that this is the effect that we must be looking to optimize. What do you think that will happen if I add another filar? And another one, and another one ... I don't know until I test it out.

Elias

[elias]

there maybe a direct mathematic relations between the magnets used (size/diameter/gauss)

and the rotor dimension....

all i can tell you is that:



Access : Solid-state physics: Golden ratio seen in a magnet : Nature

Interesting quote, did I mention that attraction is 1.6 times stronger than repulsion in magnetic fields? This is what I have noticed this year. It seemed realistic to me because attraction must be stronger in existence so that it yields a stable universe. Convergence must be stronger than divergence, to unify. Female must be more dominant than male to yield peace.

[toranarod]

Hi again great effort everyone below is some more info from romero. hope it helps ron


There are things I cannot explain, some because I cannot and some because I cannot understand them even myself.
Watching Mariuscivic videos should be enough for most of you to get the effect, there is not a secret anymore.
The system as is now is not very reliable as I said many times before, it needs readjusting when the load is changed and we loose the effect totally. I am doing more experiments to be able to avoid some of the problems. I have nothing to show yet as some of the parts for the new device are not ready. I have already changed the structure for the new build after a disaster (broken parts) while some testing where the speed was too high.
I am recommending everyone to be very careful and avoid usage at very high speed.
The effect can be replicated even with lower speeds if the coil is right.
I have no formula to calculate the proper coil, just a lot of work winding many times, adding or removing turns....
Any coil can speedup the system if the rpm is right.
Get the speed effect with a coil then check the rpm where you notice the effect is starting and after that add or remove about 10-50 turns. Check again RPM and based on that you know if you need to get up or down with the number of turns.
When you are happy with the rpm then you can think of the other coils.
Adding more coils in the system will change everything, coils that were working ok before are not going to behave the same...
For that is better to have the coils built with many taps at different number of turns.That can help a lot in tunning all coils.
It is painful and requires lots of time and patience.
The core can be almost any type but normal iron based are going to get hot very quick when tunning is complete.
Another suggestion for the Muller type is to have the top and the bottom coil not in perfect line.

Best regards,
Romero

Another suggestion for the Muller type is to have the top and the bottom coil not in perfect line.

This is an interesting statement. Not seen or heard of this before.
Is Romero going against what he was told to do when he had his other motor
taken. Or am i missing something?

[ron48]

Hi again great effort everyone below is some more info from romero. hope it helps ron


There are things I cannot explain, some because I cannot and some because I cannot understand them even myself.
Watching Mariuscivic videos should be enough for most of you to get the effect, there is not a secret anymore.
The system as is now is not very reliable as I said many times before, it needs readjusting when the load is changed and we loose the effect totally. I am doing more experiments to be able to avoid some of the problems. I have nothing to show yet as some of the parts for the new device are not ready. I have already changed the structure for the new build after a disaster (broken parts) while some testing where the speed was too high.
I am recommending everyone to be very careful and avoid usage at very high speed.
The effect can be replicated even with lower speeds if the coil is right.
I have no formula to calculate the proper coil, just a lot of work winding many times, adding or removing turns....
Any coil can speedup the system if the rpm is right.
Get the speed effect with a coil then check the rpm where you notice the effect is starting and after that add or remove about 10-50 turns. Check again RPM and based on that you know if you need to get up or down with the number of turns.
When you are happy with the rpm then you can think of the other coils.
Adding more coils in the system will change everything, coils that were working ok before are not going to behave the same...
For that is better to have the coils built with many taps at different number of turns.That can help a lot in tunning all coils.
It is painful and requires lots of time and patience.
The core can be almost any type but normal iron based are going to get hot very quick when tunning is complete.
Another suggestion for the Muller type is to have the top and the bottom coil not in perfect line.

Best regards,
Romero

[toranarod]

Data
Recorded RPM 4557
Magnets site on rotor diameter of 170 millimeters.
We have a Magnet speed of 128 Kmh.
35790 mm a second.
coil had a Diameter of 14 mm.
L= 9.2mH / .92 Ohm
T=L/R
This took the magnet 391 micro Seconds to pass the coils.




MY magnetite has arrived

[toranarod]

info on shorted coil (posted originally by Dave45 )

Self Assisted Oscillation in a Shorted Coil - Bucking Magnetic Field Oscillation - YouTube

Thanks MonsieurM
one the more useful video. this has some very reliable data.

[pmazz850]

I forgot, can anyone tell me what the resistance of a standard 7 strand romero coil is?

I think it was 2 ohms.