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  • qvision
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    I am self-employed in IT, which, in the UK at the moment, is almost like being unemployed !

    I have lots of time but little money and little knowledge.

    Don't use boat-resin for the magnetite mix, Lindemann used silicon glue but there are cheaper resins that do an 'acceptable job'.

    I am still having a hard time achieving 'acceleration under load', some people have done it with 0.6mm wire with 600 turns, others have done it with very fine wire and a coil that is measured in Henries rather than milliHenries.

    There seem to be so many variables.

    If we were a corporation of 5,000 workers with unlimited funds this would probably take us 3 years to perfect or decide it wasn't workable, i dunno ;+}

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  • toranarod
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    Originally posted by hherby View Post
    Toranarod,
    Did you achieve the same RPM without additional power draw from driving motor? If so, you have already accomplished what you need to go overunity. You are talking only one coil correct?

    The next step is to add more coils. If each additional coil provides usable power without an additional load to the drive motor, then there will be a point where you reach enough coils to power the driving motor. That will be unity. Add more coils after that and you go over unity.

    Nice work.

    Alex
    Thank you for all the post. from all.
    the next step is to add more coils. the only problem for me is the core.
    The core that gives no drag when in open circuit is the MU metal core.
    it took a longtime to make that core and i don't have any more MU metal.
    I can't make 18 cores like that it would take weeks and where do i get the MU metal.
    So am looking for alternatives. My iron oxide has arrived So i am hoping
    Bill Muller cores are going to be just as good or even better.
    we are people on budgets and cost and time for one person working alone is a big problem.

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  • toranarod
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    Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
    This is great news for my current research (ankh set up )

    Quartz + Neo

    Thanks Rod
    has any body tried to wind a 7x7 litzs coil in this configuration.

    I have a few spools of the Romero coil Wire left over.
    It will not be easy but I will have ago today, I am looking for something different to try. A 49 strand coil . that will be interesting.
    of course I can not pack it like shown in the photo but I will do the best i can.
    and let you know what transpires
    Last edited by toranarod; 09-14-2011, 09:18 PM.

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  • hherby
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    Originally posted by toranarod View Post
    ... I have achieved same RPM with a short and load and no coil installed. ...
    Toranarod,
    Did you achieve the same RPM without additional power draw from driving motor? If so, you have already accomplished what you need to go overunity. You are talking only one coil correct?

    The next step is to add more coils. If each additional coil provides usable power without an additional load to the drive motor, then there will be a point where you reach enough coils to power the driving motor. That will be unity. Add more coils after that and you go over unity.

    Nice work.

    Alex

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  • qvision
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    Originally posted by toranarod View Post
    I needs some idea where to take the research.
    So as far as you are concerned drive coils are totally out of the equation now ?

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  • frenky
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    And you could also try bifilar coil due to bigger capacitance.

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  • frenky
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    @ROD:
    With your already great motor you could try adding different capacitors to your pickup coil. Some board members had great success with this...

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  • MonsieurM
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    Originally posted by toranarod View Post
    hello MonsieurM
    I saw a video on you tube about Bell labs creating a supper magnet
    and they appeared to use wire wound in this configuration.


    see if I can find it?

    Strongest Magnet in the World in 1963 - YouTube



    I found it
    This is great news for my current research (ankh set up )

    Quartz + Neo

    Thanks Rod

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  • quantumuppercut
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    I think getting to the speed of no coil while under load is impressive and enough to make OU. To run a motor with just load is more challenging but I don't think it's impossible. There are two things I see from Thane and Romero that could exploit : The use of backing magnet and pole alternation. In my opinion, they are the same thing but I'm still trying to visualize it.

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  • toranarod
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    acceleration same as no coil installed

    This is a very important question because we need to know or have some idea what is enough how far can acceleration under load Go.
    I needs some idea where to take the research. I have achieved same RPM with a short and load and no coil installed. to go past this may be futile research.
    I can make an impressive Video anytime showing a light globe eliminating. Short it out and watch the RPM increase.
    If it can increase past No coil installed then the next step will be to run a generator from only a load.
    This is a concept I have never seen in a video forum or talked about.
    If any body can demonstrate this with a video and data specifications Please do so.
    I will continue the research testing better coil and core design.
    I am planing a much larger unit to generate usable power.

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  • toranarod
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    Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
    I'd like to share with you an observation i made while searching the geometric figure called the flower of life...here is a version of it...and it is Fractal....

    from:http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...netism-18.html





    search this figure, it will give you the right ratios to build the correct coil...It is also called the Nested Circles

    hello MonsieurM
    I saw a video on you tube about Bell labs creating a supper magnet
    and they appeared to use wire wound in this configuration.


    see if I can find it?

    Strongest Magnet in the World in 1963 - YouTube



    I found it
    Last edited by toranarod; 09-13-2011, 11:19 PM.

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  • toranarod
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    Originally posted by ron48 View Post
    Hi rodney
    It was posted earlier, it is UnderService.Org - Index
    all the best ron
    Thank you.

    I understand now I was looking for something else, like the Website he had before. not a forum type setup. The penny has finally doped.

    I am looking for any help I can get to find out if its possible to get acceleration greater than no coil present in the system.
    If you read this Romero do you know. please help.
    Last edited by toranarod; 09-13-2011, 10:09 PM.

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  • ron48
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    Hi rodney
    It was posted earlier, it is UnderService.Org - Index
    all the best ron

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  • toranarod
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    Originally posted by ron48 View Post
    Hi rodney
    This is the last statement he made on his website yesterday, i am just putting up his comments to see if it helps you get to the breakthrough that we all are hoping for all the best ron.

    ps he is about to start experimenting with different ways to do things but he has said he will not be the one to release a free energy machine after all the fuss it caused.
    i have been looking for Romero web sit for hours i cannot find can you send me a link please

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  • toranarod
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    Originally posted by elias View Post
    The first test I did was making a 5 filar coil, and what I did was that i shorted them one by one, and as i shorted the first one, the RPM dropped say about 500 RPM and then as I shorted them one by one, at each one the RPM rose 50 RPM.
    That coil had smaller gauge wire on them and much less turns

    Then I did that test with a coil I had built years ago. What kind of diagram would you like me to show you. I will reproduce the effect this afternoon, and hope to be able to make a video to demo it.
    thanks
    I will watch the video. understand what you. good work

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