Muller generator replication by Romerouk

[bolt1]

Thanks for the info guys.

Bolt1: this is one of the things I was referring too., Is he using a latching or straight on/off with the south.

You need non latching south (or north turn trigger neo around).

BTW so many people ask why two halls and two triggers. The reason is load balancing. Each hall fires at different times and the trigger coils are often not dead opposite each other. This causes a lower average current pulse time firing sequentially rather than two coils firing off one pulse. The effect is more rpm at lower average drive current. That said please do not put all your efforts into the coil drivers they are only a means to turn the rotor. The OU effect happens ONLY from the generator coils.

I have posted loads of info over at ou.com. I am Bolt there and SilverHealtheu on EVGRAY.

[Slider2732]

I'd like to know what you find Rod. Also, you say the voltage goes sky high....what happens with amperage at that moment ?
It may be a benefit ? or or am I barking up the wrong tree ?
My instant thought was to switch that sky high voltage into useful work

[toranarod]

casscade

what do you guys think of this

do you think C1 draw current from the battery?
and C2 as well through C1.



this works very well. Bit it different to what I would have believed.

note how each capacitor sits on top of the other one and the voltage is added up one cap at a time.

what will happen when we get to all 9 coils?

the important thing is there is no load on the motor. the motor run faster with every new stage. it going to take me a while to get a few more constructed as this is quite complex if you turn of the wrong stage first the voltage goes
sky High

[toranarod]

Be careful what hall you use. Some are latching, Some only work on north pole some only south pole. Some require reverse polarity to turn OFF and some don't care they just work. Picking the wrong hall is going to cause you lots of grief before you figure out what the heck is going wrong.

The better halls are Allegro they are a tad expensive but have IC filtering, hysteresis lock, latching or non latching, inbuilt sampling clock etc and are very sensitive. I use Allegro A1120's some of the products can work down to 2.5v up to 40v so bear in mind if you turn the drive voltage down your hall doesn't die on the low volts.

This is my favorite

[redrichie]

Thanks for the info guys.

Bolt1: this is one of the things I was referring too., Is he using a latching or straight on/off with the south.

[bolt1]

Be careful what hall you use. Some are latching, Some only work on north pole some only south pole. Some require reverse polarity to turn OFF and some don't care they just work. Picking the wrong hall is going to cause you lots of grief before you figure out what the heck is going wrong.

The better halls are Allegro they are a tad expensive but have IC filtering, hysteresis lock, latching or non latching, inbuilt sampling clock etc and are very sensitive. I use Allegro A1120's some of the products can work down to 2.5v up to 40v so bear in mind if you turn the drive voltage down your hall doesn't die on the low volts.

[duff]

Please excuse this dumb question. Is everyone certain of the type of hall Romero used. a unipolar normal hall? Not latching or anything else? And would someone be so kind as to tell me were the hell is good place to get them that will get here relatively quickly. I tried searching Mouser and 5 other sites for the models listed in the PDF. But that got me nowhere. What is everyone using?
Thanks guys

Romero used the A3144

That product was discontinued: October 31, 2005
Recommended Substitutions: for the A3144, refer to the A1104

http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...967232&k=A1104

[ren]

a different direction, I will start a new thread so as to save confusion. But here is a video for those interested with an air core Muller.

YouTube - ‪SG Muller‬‏

Regards

[Slider2732]

Further to electr0n's reply - case fans of Pentium III vintage normally have a DN6851 inside. Datasheet here: Download | Datasheet Archive
They work with any magnet arrangement you throw at them, are tough to break and run from 3.6V to 16V

Small PIII processor fans will often have a U18.
Datasheet here: Download | Datasheet Archive
Of smaller size, they actually have a wider running voltage range... 2.5V to 20V

I use both extensively and have never had a Hall break, not bad for components salvaged from 1990's equipment.

@Lidmotor -
Such great news about the ambient light running ability.

[erikbuch]

Please excuse this dumb question. Is everyone certain of the type of hall Romero used. a unipolar normal hall? Not latching or anything else? And would someone be so kind as to tell me were the hell is good place to get them that will get here relatively quickly. I tried searching Mouser and 5 other sites for the models listed in the PDF. But that got me nowhere. What is everyone using?
Thanks guys

I'm using Hall ATS137-PL-A-A (digikey Hall P/N 365-1003-nd)
Working fine!

Best regards
erikbuch

[electr0n]

Please excuse this dumb question. Is everyone certain of the type of hall Romero used. a unipolar normal hall? Not latching or anything else? And would someone be so kind as to tell me were the hell is good place to get them that will get here relatively quickly. I tried searching Mouser and 5 other sites for the models listed in the PDF. But that got me nowhere. What is everyone using?
Thanks guys

I`m using a couple of UGN3120U`s from a pan tilt zoom, an old computer fan will have some
Jim

[redrichie]

Please excuse this dumb question. Is everyone certain of the type of hall Romero used. a unipolar normal hall? Not latching or anything else? And would someone be so kind as to tell me were the hell is good place to get them that will get here relatively quickly. I tried searching Mouser and 5 other sites for the models listed in the PDF. But that got me nowhere. What is everyone using?
Thanks guys

[khabe]

To be honest this guy also wonders about why by multimeters it looks like output power is greater than input, but ... selfruns only when large cap, as larger as better ... this actual one looks like 1500F,
He made very meny experiments, fortunately I understand Russian very well and I like this kind works very much because there is no BLUFF, modestly just showing how it works, no codswallopings, no gibberishings - he does not play "know-it-all high horse" - he just is educated and smart guy with good sense of humor
You can see I told before - it does not matter you build Muller, Bedini or what ever - it works - even with reed switsh
Look at all this guy videos - he can replicate what ever because smart enough
YouTube - ‪MoPoZcO‬‏
cheers,
khabe

[khabe]

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or Google:
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Jim Drew,

very interesting,
cheers,
khabe

[Lidmotor]

Here is one for Slider---An ambient light powered Muller

@ Slider
Your idea about getting a little Muller Dynamo to run on a small amount of "light" energy is what I have been working on for weeks. My little "toy" is getting better and better and here it is running on indirect solar energy inside my house.

YouTube - ‪Ambient solar energy Muller Dynamo.ASF‬‏

Cheers,

Lidmotor