Muller generator replication by Romerouk

[totoalas]

If i'm reading you correctly, does that mean you artificially move the Bloch wall to the neo position and by extending with the air coil you create a artificial opposite side from the Bloch wall ?
In other words, you have decided where the Bloch wall should be ?

40amps is great !

Hi Slider

ac clamp meters made in China
YouTube - ‪Muller gen Rotor to Stator Sweetspot 200611.avi‬‏

cheers

totoalas

[khabe]

Hokum works on economic recovery Costless dinners does not exist, sponsors asking to get back at least donated funds world-wide sold thousands miles of hobby wires, tons of "new old stock" neo magnets, whereby by new price , sold lot of el. stuff, therewith esp. amazed are home appliance shops - sewing machine bobbins all over the world sold out
Muller Dynamo
cheers,
khabe

[blackchisel97]

I got a gap between rotor and coils adjusted again, back to approx. 10mm. Rotor running smooth and quiet. At 12V input 80mA draw. I have 4 sets of gen coils done atm. and one trigger. I measured almost 7V over the bridge off one set of gen coils in series. Scoped trigger shows 182Hz. However, when I connect a lamp with 22 LED's to one gen coil rotor slows down a bit. I guess this is nothing new and exciting but I'm still working on to understand better what can be done.
I keep thinking about bipolar switch and possibility of using it here.


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[Slider2732]

If i'm reading you correctly, does that mean you artificially move the Bloch wall to the neo position and by extending with the air coil you create a artificial opposite side from the Bloch wall ?
In other words, you have decided where the Bloch wall should be ?

40amps is great !

[totoalas]

Rotor to Stator Sweetspot

Hi to all

talking of SWEET SPOT of stator to coil
I tried to use an ac clamp meter instead of neogen coil and try to rotate the rotor ns(HD drive magnet) manually by hand Moving parallel the clamp meter with 3 to 5 mm clearance passing by the rotor , The reading registered more than 40 amps in ac scale with one top side of the meters coil on top of magnet ..... so an air coil placement of one side of the top coil will produce the maximum effect
Dont know if this is relevant just an observation

cheers

totoalas

[blackchisel97]

I wound 2 more sets of gen coils last night and had to take device apart to put them in place. I must changed something ( most likely the gap between rotor and coils) because my previous load - 22 LED is slowing the RMP considerably right now. Yesterday did not affect the rotor at all. I did measure LED draw and it is 40mA. No effect on input draw. I need to play and find this good spot again. I have magnets on the cores repulsing rotor magnets. Rotor speeds up when I flip them around but the output from coil remains about the same.

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[blackchisel97]

Hi guys,

I had to postpone my bigger build since postal strike grounded magnets somewhere and not having enough wire. I didn't have much time to spare lately but managed to get smaller device done. I have only one set of trigger coils done on sewing bobbins with single strand #31 and only two sets of gen coils with #26, full spools.
I was thinking in line of SSG while adjusting rotor - coil gap - moving coils apart until "kick" is very gentle but allows device to run. I've got approx. 10mm gap on both sides atm. doubled 1/2" magnets in the rotor (eight) and ferrite cores.
I'm hoping to get FWBR's done later today. Meanwhile I connected LED's to each coil and they have no effect on rpm or input which is between 90 - 100mA. I tried to short one coil with 12V5W bulb and got her glowing but obviously this is too much and rotor slows down quite a bit.
I have double magnets on the cores with steel washers and repulsion mode.
Very interesting device. I'll try to do some more with it over the weekend.
I posted short youtube in my channel - YouTube - ‪Muller/romerouk replication attempt‬‏
Just a quick update; I connected 24 LED's to one single coil, no effect on rpm or input. I need to get other things done around but will continue shortly.

Vtech

[elias]

@All.I don't know how many of you are aware of an experimenter called twinbeard and a motor which he calls a "flowerpower device" which uses a starship coil and a small neo sphere as a rotor.This motor has spun the rotor at 3450000rpm-THREE AND A HALF MILLION RPMS and believe it or not,the rotor went supersonic and exploded.
He can only achieve this high rpm by delaying Lenz using principles based on Thane Heins.

I can not imagine what he has accomplished 3.5 million RPMs sounds like madness, is he alive? Delaying Lenz is what I am talking about 4 months now and I can confirm that this hypothesis is correct, but this is very very fast, what type of bearing has he been using, and how much energy??

Edit: I didn't realize he didn't use bearings, pretty cool.

[Lidmotor]

Welcome aboard Jonny

Jonny. You are a little late to the party but maybe we can find you a beer somewhere. You missed the most of the wild dancing that went on earlier. Sorry to hear about your car. I have never broken a timing belt but I have replaced one on a 24 valve motor once and it was very hard. Everything has to be right or your motor eats the valves instantly.
All the work that you have done with pulse motors over the last few years should really help you on this project. I learned many things working with this axial flux design---but don't expect to build one in a week and power up your house. It is a very frustrating endeavor unless you go into it with an open mind but grounded in reality. Toranarod (Rod) and some others are methodically picking this thing apart looking for any clues or new discoveries. There are some brilliant people attracted to this project. When the replicators were not able to instantly get their device to perfom like Romero's they started going backwards trying to find out why. In doing that they discovered new things and came up with new ideas. It is kinda one step forwards, two steps backwards, then maybe four steps waaaay forward.

Lidmotor

[khabe]

Sorry, but looks like theretofore you have no idea what means 3.45 mio rpm.
Even 345 kilo rpm could be accomplishment
But it sounds like 13.45 krpm not 34.5 kilo rpm
You can calculate when you have what to calculate,
When for example two pole air core brushless motor then there are two (or one) "coils" per phase ("coil" means bunch of conductors) and there is flux returning unit beyond the "coils", this is easy to calculate by driver pulses,
but when you have "flowerpower StarWar device" where tens of coils ... what from theses is with the rotor (ball) pole acts? Does it act per every revolution, does it act at all or just passes over ... or just slips down ...skims like hardly skidding clutch You cant get million rpm just on the table even not inside plastic tube, even you use StarWarFlowerPower coil you can not do this. You read the article I added, hopefully you understand that with 6...10 times less diameter this is much easiar, but even then they used slight vacuum and steel ball was magetically supported.
When some special-made neo sphere even is so strong that is able for million rpm then eddy losses what will come up even with 34.5 kilo rpm ... oh dear,
I think there is meanless to continue
Have a nice spinnings
cheers,
khabe

[toranarod]

[redrichie]

Nice to see you around Jonny.
If no one has read the coil shorting thread over at OU then I highly recommend it. Prob good to have a little background as to what has been happening since the beginning of the year. And so we dont backtrack over needless dead ends. Konehead, Bolt, romero, Woopy, etc all have had great success and the beginnings of the Muller are there.

[jonnydavro]

You mean about SPINNING BALL?
If I need I can do it,
But up till I rely on to works of professionals:

http://www.pes.ee.ethz.ch/uploads/tx_ethpublications/SPEEDAM_1304_1_.pdf

cheers,
khabe

Believe me, IndianaBoys, I like every kind of experiments and motors and etc ... what I do not like is codswallop and bluff,
jonnydavro told ... twinbeard told ... three and half million rpm
OK, perhaps they had some vacuum utilities, perhaps special ordered ultra-precision and extra-strong neo sphere ...
... but from where those guys found such kind of rpm-meter

Hi Khabe .No need for a fancy rpm meter,maths and the right variables should be all thats needed.Please take a bit of time to read the link i posted as i get the feeling that you are the type of person who looks before they leap .
That was a very interestinhg pdf you posted although the motor discussed was theoretical but the table showing the past results was very interesting along with the size of the rotors but there is a big difference between these motors and Twinbeards flower power device which is the flower power device is under load and speeds up UNDER LOAD and can only achieve such high speeds by avoiding Lenz drag and utilising it to give the rotor a push so here are similarities with Romeouk motor/gen but using just 1 magnet.Jonny

[khabe]

Khabe,

Show us your work?

IndianaBoys

You mean about SPINNING BALL?
If I need I can do it,
But up till I rely on to works of professionals:

http://www.pes.ee.ethz.ch/uploads/tx_ethpublications/SPEEDAM_1304_1_.pdf

cheers,
khabe

Believe me, IndianaBoys, I like every kind of experiments and motors and etc ... what I do not like is codswallop and bluff,
jonnydavro told ... twinbeard told ... three and half million rpm
OK, perhaps they had some vacuum utilities, perhaps special ordered ultra-precision and extra-strong neo sphere ...
... but from where those guys found such kind of rpm-meter

[IndianaBoys]

Centripetal Force
Some calculators:

https://www.msu.edu/~venkata1/gforce.htm?box0=&box1=&box2=&result2=&box3=&result1=&TextBox=

g force (RCF) Calculation - KUBOTA
cheers,
khabe

Khabe,

Show us your work?

IndianaBoys