Water Sparkplug

[jack]

pulstar spar plug

Hi Every One,
I Am New To This So Please Give Me A Little Patience. I Have Really Enjoyed All The Ideas. I Have Put A Hydrogen Generator In A 2001 Ford Ranger W/4.0 Liter Engine. My Mileage Has Gone From 17.5 To 23,
It Pulls 10 Amps. The Next Two Ways I'am Trying To Do Is O2 Sensors And Changing Spark Plugs.
If Changing To Pulstar Plugs. And Putting Non Foulers On O2 Sensors While Useing Hho Generator, Can Anyone Give Me An Idea On Heat Temp And Should Milage Go Any Higher.

Jack:

[gmeast]

... you made me try it ...

I understand that the original intent for Aaron and Peter was to prove/demonstrate the the increased effect was not due to power from the source. Thus they used a relay to physically disconnect the power source prior to dumping the cap. Now that we have all replicated the effect, and have proven such to ourselves, can we still keep the power connected ?
Your circuit seems to handle it and it may prove much easier to configure for a motor.

Just some thoughts,

Timm

Hi Timm,

I know this was from earlier. But you challenged me to try leaving the power on. My power into the FWB is protected by 1A glass fuse. So I decided it was safe to try that. The 1A fuse was used because it is a safe current and can stand up to the initial inrush of current into the 'new' 470uf storage cap on initial fire-up of the circuit. It only takes .1A of current to run it. Maybe .4A on a 4 cyl. engine. Anyway, I left the power on on the charge Mosfet and the fuse blew, coating the inside of the glass casing so nice and evenly.

But the way(s) I have addressed triggering the switches is looking like just a magnetic rotor and two mag pick ups found on off the shelf electronic ign. conversion kits for VWs. I am working to finalize this so you and others don't need to buy parts that won't be used.

Best to you,

Greg

[Peter Lindemann]

Thanks!

Hi Mr. Lindemann,

We've missed your input here. Everyone's made some good progress as you have noticed. I enjoyed your YouTube video someone linked to re: Meyers' patent.

Thanks for posting again. Sincerely,

Greg

Greg,

Thanks for the kind remarks. Your contributions to this thread have also been fantastic and I look forward to seeing your '64 VW running on its 21st Century ignition system soon!

My recent absence in these threads is related to being very busy on a number of other projects. Actually, being self employed, I find the fickle finger of fate frequently foments fluctuations of financial fortune causing me to focus fiercely on future fundamentals.

Its nice to be missed, though.

Keep up the great work!

Peter

[gotoluc]

Hello Ansis Freimanis,

please do more research and tests with Jetijs to better understand this effect. It is like feedback. Very interesting and important effect I think.

Thank you for your post.

Luc

[gmeast]

Parts list

Hi Timm,

All is well and I watch this thread carefully. I'm amazed at how much progress everyone is making in such a short period of time. One thing I have in mind is to continually simplify-simplify-simplify.

Hi Aaron,

Nice to hear from you. Did you see my parts list? ... not much there. Did you see my 'spark' video? That was a surprise to me. I'm installing in my '64 VW Bug now. Will be on plasma ignition in a couple of days.

Best,

Greg

[xpskid]

[QUOTE=gmeast;29896]Hi Timm,

I understand. But if you calculate for a 4-stroke cycle engine the number of cycles per second for, say a six cylinder engine, it becomes apparent that the the Hz output from the inverter reaches synch with the Hz of the ignition and you can start trying to charge the cap in a trough. I think this begins to happen at about 3333 RPM for 60 Hz and six cylinders. One option to overcome this is to use a higher freq. inverter. I have decided to keep the charge switch and add a storage cap so that I have, in essence, a DC power supply. To do this I had to also swap out the charge Triac for a Power Mosfet. With this mod, supply frequency is not a problem. (the Triac had to go because it won't shut off ... only at zero crossing)

I also discovered that I can easily interface with the standard points via a modification and create SPDT triggering for both charge and discharge if I exchange the discharge Triac with another Mosfet.

But for the charge side, you can see the mods in the diagram below.

Peace,

Greg


Greg,

Thanks for your patience with my questions ! Someday, I'll buy you one of these -->

Ok... I'm ordering and building the V6 set-up with mosfet and storage cap.
I'll pull my distributor and mount for a bench test. I'd be interested in your points modification when you have time to share.

Regards,

Timm

[Aaron]

hi Timm

It's great to see Peter still interested in the work of this forum
I haven't seen much from Aaron lately, hope all is well .

Enjoying every minute of this,

Timm

Hi Timm,

All is well and I watch this thread carefully. I'm amazed at how much progress everyone is making in such a short period of time. One thing I have in mind is to continually simplify-simplify-simplify.

[gmeast]

keeping the power connected

I understand that the original intent for Aaron and Peter was to prove/demonstrate the the increased effect was not due to power from the source. Thus they used a relay to physically disconnect the power source prior to dumping the cap. Now that we have all replicated the effect, and have proven such to ourselves, can we still keep the power connected ?
Your circuit seems to handle it and it may prove much easier to configure for a motor.

Just some thoughts,

Timm

Hi Timm,

I understand. But if you calculate for a 4-stroke cycle engine the number of cycles per second for, say a six cylinder engine, it becomes apparent that the the Hz output from the inverter reaches synch with the Hz of the ignition and you can start trying to charge the cap in a trough. I think this begins to happen at about 3333 RPM for 60 Hz and six cylinders. One option to overcome this is to use a higher freq. inverter. I have decided to keep the charge switch and add a storage cap so that I have, in essence, a DC power supply. To do this I had to also swap out the charge Triac for a Power Mosfet. With this mod, supply frequency is not a problem. (the Triac had to go because it won't shut off ... only at zero crossing)

I also discovered that I can easily interface with the standard points via a modification and create SPDT triggering for both charge and discharge if I exchange the discharge Triac with another Mosfet.

But for the charge side, you can see the mods in the diagram below.

Peace,

Greg

[xpskid]

Hi Mr. Lindemann,

We've missed your input here. Everyone's made some good progress as you have noticed. I enjoyed your YouTube video someone linked to re: Meyers' patent.

Thanks for posting again. Sincerely,

Greg

It's great to see Peter still interested in the work of this forum
I haven't seen much from Aaron lately, hope all is well .

Enjoying every minute of this,

Timm

[xpskid]

Hi Timm,

I'm scared to try it.

Greg

I understand that the original intent for Aaron and Peter was to prove/demonstrate the the increased effect was not due to power from the source. Thus they used a relay to physically disconnect the power source prior to dumping the cap. Now that we have all replicated the effect, and have proven such to ourselves, can we still keep the power connected ?
Your circuit seems to handle it and it may prove much easier to configure for a motor.

Just some thoughts,

Timm

[gmeast]

We've missed your commentaries!

Jetijs,

In relation to spark frequencies needed to run your generator, I don't understand the need for these extremely high frequency tests. As I understand it, for your generator to produce 50hz AC power, it only needs to turn at 3000 RPM. Is this correct? For those here in the States, the generators will want to run at 3600 RPM to produce 60hz AC power.


Peter

Hi Mr. Lindemann,

We've missed your input here. Everyone's made some good progress as you have noticed. I enjoyed your YouTube video someone linked to re: Meyers' patent.

Thanks for posting again. Sincerely,

Greg

[gmeast]

Greg,

In reference to you first diagram, 1 spark plug, 2 triac's for switching:
Can the charge switch be eliminated ? Have you tried keeping your first triac closed and simply trigger the discharge triac ?
My replication circuit seems to do just fine when I played with it in that mode.

Regards,

Timm

Hi Timm,

I'm scared to try it.

Greg

[Jetijs]

Jetijs,

I haven't posted much recently, but your work continues to be EXCELLENT. By your own persistent efforts in the last year and a half, you have raised yourself up to being one of the premier experimental researchers in the world who also publishes his work in the public domain. Congratulations!

In relation to spark frequencies needed to run your generator, I don't understand the need for these extremely high frequency tests. As I understand it, for your generator to produce 50hz AC power, it only needs to turn at 3000 RPM. Is this correct? For those here in the States, the generators will want to run at 3600 RPM to produce 60hz AC power.

For your generator, that is only 50 revolutions per second and only 25 ignition sparks per second to run the generator at rated speed. So, if your circuit is stable at 40hz (with the waste spark eliminated) you can run the generator at rated speed with no problems.

I recommend that you switch back to the capacitor size that operated in this range, so that each spark you produce has the maximum number of Joules of energy in it for your charging system. Also, if you drop your trigger resistor from 4k to about 2k, you should still be able to run cool enough, but you will be able to charge the cap twice as fast. Worst case scenario is you would have to heat sink the transistor.

At these speeds, your line powered booster cap charging system should be able to keep up just fine to run the engine on any level of boost you want. If not, what am I missing?

Keep up the great work,

Peter

Thank you Peter for your encouraging words
When I first started the generator engine with the custom ignition system, the engine did not run very smooth, like it did with the stock ignition coil. I could not find any other reason for this than the inverter frequency. Also the speed regulator on my generator is disabled so that I can easily see if the mods I am doing has any effect at all. If the RPM's increase, then this is a good sign, but if the regulator was in tact, I would not be able to see any difference, because it would always keep the same speed. Because of the disabled speed regulator, the engine is running at higher speeds than is needed to generate the 50Hz AC. But I agree that an inverter should still be able to handle the speeds. Anyway, we will see if the engine will run smoother with this setup. And the good thing is that before I used the inverter and the light bulb on the primary side only, wasting much energy in the light bulb (75W) but now with the Bedini oscillator the primary side consumes only 1.2w and can handle high frequencies.
I have just finished building another Bedini self oscillator for the booster side. The coil has 5 strands of gauge 21 wire and about 400 turns. One winding is used as a trigger coil, another is used as a power coil and the remaining three are connected in series for the output. But with this setup I can charge the caps up to only 420V. That is with 1k base resistor. If I decrease the base resistance to 500 Ohms, the output voltage gets a little higher, but it does not start to self oscillate on its own, I have to "help" the coil with a magnet on the coil core. Anyway, I attached this booster side to the primary side and got the intensified spark, but the effect was not very great, the spark was just a bit brighter and louder. For this I used 1000v 0.82uF cap. Also the booster side could not handle frequencies higher than 150Hz, because at that point the intensified effect disappeared leaving only an ordinary spark. So I doubled the booster cap capacity. The intensified spark was now more brighter and louder, but max frequency also dropped. With tripled booster cap capacity, the spark was even brighter (but still nothing spectacular) but the max frequency fell to about 60Hz. I also tried a bigger capacity on the primary side, but it did not seem to improve anything.


Jetijs

[gmeast]

parts list for the plasma CDI I built

HI all,

Here is the parts list for the plasma CDI I built:

4 ea. non resistor spark plugs
1 ea. 47uf x 450 V cap
1 ea. 470 uf x 450 V cap
1 ea. 12 ohm x 50 watt resistor
1 ea. 3k ohm x 1/4 watt resistor
2 ea. power Mosfet w/driver
1 ea. FWB rectifier
1 ea. 1:1 x 150 VA isolation transformer
1 ea. 400 watt 115VAC inverter
12 ea. HV Replacement Microwave diodes
2 ea. 1000V x 3A ultra fast recovery diodes
1 ea. standard automotive coil
1 ea. modification to make the distributor points act like a SPDT switch
1 ea. fuse holder
1 ea. 1A fuse

Peace,

Greg

[xpskid]

Charge Switch

Greg,

In reference to you first diagram, 1 spark plug, 2 triac's for switching:
Can the charge switch be eliminated ? Have you tried keeping your first triac closed and simply trigger the discharge triac ?
My replication circuit seems to do just fine when I played with it in that mode.

Regards,

Timm