This forum is preserved as a permanent archive. The community continues at eMedia Press.

Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Water Sparkplug

Collapse
This topic is closed.
X
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • jstadwater
    replied
    Hey Wilber,

    That's awesome news!! After all the trouble I had with it yesterday, could you PLEASE post a pic of your circuit setup so I can maybe figure out where I went wrong in my circuit test. I would really appreciate any description of how your circuit is wired up exactly. I too intend to try to use this, or similar, circuit in conjunction with HHO on an engine. The sooner the better! I tried using a full wave bridge yesterday too, couldn't get mine to work any different than using the half wave. All the different schematic variations are kind of confusing to me, as new as I am to electronic circuits and all. I really like the "gmeast" circuit as well, I may also build one of his for testing. Thanks in advance and CONGRATULATIONS on your progress with this Nexus circuit. Hopefully we will all have a working model soon! Later.......................Mike


    Leave a comment:


  • Jetijs
    replied
    Hi all
    To solve the frequency problem I searched all over the web for already commercial available dc to dc step up converters but with no luck. So I decided to use my trifilar coil form a Bedini SSG and make it into a self oscillator with the third winding used for charhing. This way I can step up the voltage from 12v to 350V and the trifilar coil acts like an isolation transformer in the same time. This setup can charge up three 450V 100uF caps in series to 350v drawing 12v 0.4A form the battery. I did not connect a scope to the transistor, but form what I hear, the switching frequency is in the KHz range. Here is a Bedini self oscillator circuit I used:



    To increase the frequency and lower the amp draw, you can increase the base resistor. I used 1K, but it heated up quickly, so I switched to 4k and everything seems to work fine now and the amp draw dropped to 0.1A
    Thanks,
    Jetijs.
    Last edited by Jetijs; 09-19-2008, 01:56 PM.

    Leave a comment:


  • CPU3rother
    replied
    Nice Vid.

    Originally posted by xpskid View Post
    Way cool Greg !
    Looks like your ground lead is sparking too ! Be Careful !
    All electronics really run on smoke not electrons, and it just a matter of time before you let it out. Mike sprung a leak in his inverters and let all the smoke out.
    I think that was the reflection of the spark plug off the coil.

    Leave a comment:


  • sirmikey1
    replied
    This HV reaction in the compressed combustion
    chamber is not healthy to the engine. The piston
    is aluminum, 275 degree melt, crumbles, destroys
    everything.

    You are going to have to deliver pre-ignited
    compressed HHO, not pre-ignited H20. To do this,
    you are going to need ultrasonic H20 vaporiser
    with vapor injectors, not liquid, and no massive
    sparks. Meyers device appeared to do just that,
    to take a quantity of water, ultrasonic convert,
    and then inject.

    Meyers device is a converter/injector!

    The Truth Will Set You Free,

    SM
    Last edited by sirmikey1; 09-19-2008, 12:27 PM.

    Leave a comment:


  • ashtweth
    replied
    Thanks man, ill change the doc right now, that variac video made me run up a tree, this combined with the spark gap experiment, shows that there is more going on here then the laws can explain, the panacea spark video is being filmed next weekend, we have a solid state 555 timer circuit to add too, you have inspired us and Luc, ground loop and Greg and ALL to run the genset with the smacks and a circuit..will have it edited and done next week guys.

    This is what we need, practical do now energy savings and OU R and D.you guys are the best, and deserve grants, public awareness/thanks that's why my none profit org started. you guys are elite.
    KEEP GOING!!! WE ARE CLOSE!

    sincerely
    Ash
    Last edited by ashtweth; 09-19-2008, 11:48 AM.

    Leave a comment:


  • Jetijs
    replied
    Hi all

    Today I made some more tests with the voltage quadrupler array. I found out that the circuit I posted yesterday is wrong. Here is two circuits I used today:



    Circuit A is exactly what I used yestarday and if the variac was attached to the red wires, the RPM's increased. I measured the RPM's on my bigger reductor wheel, but there is probably a mistake in the laser tachometer readings, because if the bigger wheel rotated at 5k RPM, that means that the reals RPM's of the engine should be 10k and it just did not sound like it was going so fast. Anyway, when I used circuit A, I had to attach the red leads to the variac for the RPM's to increase. I noticed, that every time I did this, the small voltmeter needle on the variac jumped a little. Then I tried to short the read leads using a screwdriver, a small spark appeared when shorting the leads (not like a HV spark, more like an ordinary spark from shorted LV capacitor) and the RPM's increased again. That means that the coil in the variac does not make any noticeable difference.
    Then I tried the circuit B and when I started the generator engine, the RPMs quickly jumped to the same value as with the circuit A and shorted red wires.
    Interesting indeed

    Leave a comment:


  • goldenequity
    replied
    The Nexus PDF 09|18|08

    Originally posted by Wilber View Post
    Hi everyone
    I have had some success with the nexus circuit , I followed the schematic except instead of 60 in5408 diodes used 3 parallel strings of 7 also used a full wave rectifier on grid power and a 25uf capacitor (start) , It produces 1/4" spark .In 6 hp test engine ran well until spark plug center electrode and ground electrode fused together . Will try with hho addition this weekend.
    Will
    Congrats Wilber Keep us posted on the HHO tryout... exciting!

    @ all
    This is a cut and paste from Bill/Nexus .pdf.... just the verbage... I don't know if it's been updated since he first posted but I post it here as reference for the thread.



    The Nexus Plasma Arc Circuit
    "Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by power
    obtainable at any point in the universe. . .it is a mere question of time when
    men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheelwork of
    nature." - Nikola Tesla
    The inverter is physically and electrically isolated from vehicle ground. Because of this, the only path for 120 VDC is through the dipole created across the spark plug gap.

    OK, the Nexus hot wire is connected directly to the engine block, 120 VAC from the inverter is directed through a MOT (microwave oven transformer) primary to a half wave rectifier.

    The MOT secondary is not used.The diodes are all 1N5408 rated at 800V and 3 amps each. They are available through
    Newark: http://www.newark.com/58K9608/semiconductorsdiscretes/
    product.us0?sku=fairchild-semiconductor-1n5408&_requestid=75114
    The capacitor is 12.5 uF, 250 voltThe negative side of the rectified 120 V is directed through a string of diodes sufficient enough to block the ground path through the circuit that the HV from the engine coil will see (remember, nearly anything looks like ground to HV).

    The lazy HVtwo strings of 60 diodes in parallelanodes are connected to the same dipole feed wire from the Nexus supply, which results in spark plug cross fire.

    To eliminate crossfire, I installed 7 diodes in series with each individual dipole feed wire.
    Last edited by goldenequity; 09-19-2008, 06:38 AM.

    Leave a comment:


  • Wilber
    replied
    Nexus replication

    Hi everyone
    I have had some success with the nexus circuit , I followed the schematic except instead of 60 in5408 diodes used 3 parallel strings of 7 also used a full wave rectifier on grid power and a 25uf capacitor (start) , It produces 1/4" spark .In 6 hp test engine ran well until spark plug center electrode and ground electrode fused together . Will try with hho addition this weekend.
    Will

    Leave a comment:


  • gmeast
    replied
    Mirror, mirror

    Originally posted by dllabarre View Post
    Greg

    Is there a version of your circuit that I could use on my 10HP generator?

    It doesn't have a coil or distributor obviously but it produces 110v that I want to feed back into the circuit once it's running.

    So I'd use a 12 vdc battery and inverter to get it running. Then have a manual switch that would take the battery & inverter out of the circuit and add in the 110 v ac from the generator.

    I plan to have an external timing & switch gear setup similar to what Jetijs has to use for eliminating the waste spark and allow easy access to timing changes. I plan to combine water and HHO in the intake so I have to eliminate the waste spark.

    I was thinking of something along the lines of 2 switches (maybe), 1 to charge the capacitor and a second to release it to the spark plug.
    Both switches would be on this external gear.

    But I'm not sure how to go about changing your circuit to work without a coil and distributor.

    Any ideas would help.
    Thanks

    DonL
    Hi Don,

    That's exactly what I'm doing too. Did you see the picture of my 2:1 gear reducer on my generator set?

    The picture is at:


    The plate with the slots is the timing plate and that will have the reed switches for the charge and discharge components. The driven gear will have the rotor with the magnet on it. I'll eventually go to Hall or Opto but for now it's reed switches.

    All of these systems that use inverters have a potential 'speed limit' because of the 60 Hz. You can reach resonance. I solved that with my latest Mod. The first diagram is the original circuit using an isolation transformer plugged into the wall. The second diagram is for multiple plugs but shows the swap out of the charge Triac with a power Mosfet package with integral opto isolated trigger. It is a Crydom D2D12 ... 200VDC & 12A - expensive $60.00 ... I didn't want to design any of the trigger electronics for a cheap Mosfet so I used the Crydom. Never allow the charge and discharge components to fire at the same time or you'll have a Crydom paperweight. Once the reed switches were too close together, I set a magnet down near them and bzzzzz - pooof "@#$%!".

    I don't recommend building any of this ... blah, blah, blah, but if you do use the first diagram with the swap out of the second. The third diagram is the equiv. circuit of the second diagram. And you can use long strings of cheap 1000VDC-3AMP diodes (like everyone else) instead of the expensive NTE517 I use.

    Peace,

    Greg





    Leave a comment:


  • dllabarre
    replied
    Greg

    Is there a version of your circuit that I could use on my 10HP generator?

    It doesn't have a coil or distributor obviously but it produces 110v that I want to feed back into the circuit once it's running.

    So I'd use a 12 vdc battery and inverter to get it running. Then have a manual switch that would take the battery & inverter out of the circuit and add in the 110 v ac from the generator.

    I plan to have an external timing & switch gear setup similar to what Jetijs has to use for eliminating the waste spark and allow easy access to timing changes. I plan to combine water and HHO in the intake so I have to eliminate the waste spark.

    I was thinking of something along the lines of 2 switches (maybe), 1 to charge the capacitor and a second to release it to the spark plug.
    Both switches would be on this external gear.

    But I'm not sure how to go about changing your circuit to work without a coil and distributor.

    Any ideas would help.
    Thanks

    DonL

    Leave a comment:


  • gmeast
    replied
    ground lead

    Originally posted by xpskid View Post
    Way cool Greg !
    Looks like your ground lead is sparking too ! Be Careful !
    All electronics really run on smoke not electrons, and it just a matter of time before you let it out. Mike sprung a leak in his inverters and let all the smoke out.

    No no. That's the reflection of the spark plug on the side of the coil. Nothing is arcing except the plug and the coil secondary ... sometimes. What you think is a ground wire is sitting a full inch off of the coil in the foreground.

    Greg
    Last edited by gmeast; 09-19-2008, 02:24 AM.

    Leave a comment:


  • xpskid
    replied
    Way cool Greg !
    Looks like your ground lead is sparking too ! Be Careful !
    All electronics really run on smoke not electrons, and it just a matter of time before you let it out. Mike sprung a leak in his inverters and let all the smoke out.

    Leave a comment:


  • gmeast
    replied
    plasma caused by stress forming the dipole

    Ok everyone,

    This is just some free energy stuff ... energy from the void ... from the vortex ...from the aether ... from the seething vacuum, etc.

    I posted a video and proposed some conclusions about what initiates the plasma burst we're all working on.

    This was just fun to do. Nothing scientific, just interesting.

    The video:
    YouTube - stress forming dipole causes plasma burst

    Peace,

    Greg

    Leave a comment:


  • CPU3rother
    replied
    Originally posted by gmeast View Post
    Hi Jetijs,

    As you already noticed, frequency is a problem. The Nexus circuit will have this problem too. I have a switch that charges the Cap and a switch that discharges the Cap. I was going to build a Hi Freq inverter or DC-DC pump. Instead I changed my charge switch to a Mosfet and added a storage Cap on the FWB. I posted this diagram.

    Keep pluggin' along. Peace,

    Greg
    Another possible solution to solve the frequency problem.
    Attached Files

    Leave a comment:


  • CPU3rother
    replied
    Originally posted by jstadwater View Post
    OK, I spent most of the day reading in this forum and the one at Overunity and testing every different way I could come up with to hook up this Nexus circuit. In some of the diagrams it was stated "For use with negative HV discharge coils, to use with positive discharge, invert diodes." I tried all that, to no avale. I felt like Clint Eastwood, I turned it every which way but loose!! In my tests, the cap (22uf 250V, couldn't find a 12.5uf) made NO difference in anything, no matter which configuration it was wired in. I even changed the coil configuration to discharge - instead of +, still no good. Each time I flip on the inverter, the "continuous" spark at the plug just sits there going crazy. After about 5 seconds, the inverter starts to squeel so I flip it back off. I never even activated the discharge from the coil during this, since I instantly fried the inverter by discharging the coil into it yesterday. And does anyone know what kind of cap Mr. Bill is using in that video? That thing is huge. Is it a non-pollarized or something, or just really old? I didn't fry any inverters today, came close about 10 or 15 times though! Maybe I need to wait for the 300 1N5408 diodes I ordered to come in before I go any further. If this circuit is to work, maybe it is completely dependant on those specific diodes, I don't know. To me, the schematic just does not make any sense. When I put in the diode to half rectify, in the direction on the schematic, the output from the diode is negative. I don't have a problem with that, reversed makes it measure positive. But the schematic shows to hook that lead to one side of the cap and the other side of the cap to 12V- negative of the battery cable. With both sides of the cap hooked to negative, how's that supposed to work? Also in that config, the main diodes are turned so that the HV+ discharge from the coil just barrells through there and the inverter seems to take a direct hit, pegged my meter each time I flipped it on anyways. If anyone is having any luck with this circuit, please let me know. I can't seem to make heads or tails out of it myself. I'm DONE for the day, I will try to post some pics of my mess on this table here in the morning. Maybe someone can see what my malfunction is. Till then, good day and good luck to all..............................Mike
    He said it was the old Microwave cap. looked oil filled.
    Last edited by CPU3rother; 09-18-2008, 11:25 PM. Reason: Type O

    Leave a comment:

Working...
X