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[plengo]

Here's a video of the construction of the mini cell, cheers

mini cell - YouTube

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Excellent work. Such a small cell and so powerful.
So you are using:
Carbon 1 part
Alum 1 part
Silicon Gel 1/2 part
Hyd #5 1/8 part (which one is this? Rochelle? Epson salts?)
Mn02 Pinch (like finger tips quantity?)
Iron Pyrite 1/4 part

Can you confirm please?

Fausto.

[cgalvisardila]

Here's a video of the construction of the mini cell, cheers

mini cell - YouTube

also some news you might be interested in

Amazing Solar Flare Photos of April 16, 2012| Space Weather | Space.com

[cgalvisardila]

Just built 4 cells using the co-alum-MnO2-Hydrate#5 mix... all i can say is wow... these are 3 3.6volt leds, you cant even see them because of the glare.... hope it will last, only time will tell.... the video with the tiny cell is coming up, it works well, but the cylinder type cell clearly works beter, the plate design could be good to stack up hundreds of cells in order to make 120V at 20 Ma, it would take very little space and very cheap to make, that will be my next proyect, cheers

[Slider2732]

As a sideline project, i'm moving back to small cells myself, with the idea of stacking.
The one in the pic below was made by accident, sometimes the best way
After making an approx 1" diameter cell from usual enough stovetop ingredients and cat litter (from the idea on the previous page) i'd used a cotton bud to mix the mixture. Well, the whole of the ingredients were on the cotton bud cotton tip !
So, a piece of burnt copper and a piece of galvanized steel were placed either side, cotton was wound around to secure and then the little cell was encased in candle wax to seal.
Stacking cotton bud tip cells would produce quite the small battery and they could be linked horizontally as well as vertically.

Here it is just now, powering an LED oscillator (green LED version) with an American penny for size comparison.

[cgalvisardila]

Sure! ill be glad to, ill do it tonight after class, this one is putting off 5V at around 20 Ma, but im sure it can give more with a better build.... the video that alwest posted gave me the idea:


Energy From Aluminum - YouTube

[plengo]

here's the mini cell i was telling you about, built it yesterday, based on the fuel cell idea, its just 3 small plates of copper - mag with paper soaked on electrolyte mix, VERY cheap to make, with one mag rod and one copper plate of good quality you can get 100 anodes and cathodes, cheers

Can you tell more about this cell? You mention "fuel cell idea"?!! where is the detail of that idea, please?

Can you make a video showing how you build this tiny powerful cell?

Many thanks,

Fausto.

[cgalvisardila]

Yes, to learn and make some energy is the quest for most of us on this forum. And, yes, your comments were rude and offensive to the people working on this project, spending their time, money, and effort in this endeavor.

See the attachment below for the closest thing that I have built to satisfy your request. This setup puts out 12+volts and 40mA. These cells have been in use for over 4 years and the cost of this system is less than 10 dollars. It will charge secondary batteries, caps, and run all of my electronic toys. In the picture below, you can see it lighting an LED from the lights above my workbench. When you figure out how to make this from scratch in the kitchen, let me know and I will call you a hero.



@MonsieurM, thanks for the link on the fuel cells. Fuel Cells are my favorites, particularly the liquid fuel cells.

Oh guys, so sorry... like i said to alwest, i appreciate every effort and the will to share of everyone here. maybe you should know that i have built earth cells, table salt cells, chlorine cells, lemon juice... all kinds of stuff with very simple every day material, i also have spent a lot of time and money on this project and will continue to do so, so far i like the crystal cells with carbon and MnO2, using good quality metals and materials like john suggested. they last a long time and put some decent power... its pretty interesting that you can make cheap solar cells, i wouldn't know how to make them, but this guy does.

How to Build a Solar Panel - Part 1 of 3 (New)step by step buying everything off ebay - YouTube

here's the mini cell i was telling you about, built it yesterday, based on the fuel cell idea, its just 3 small plates of copper - mag with paper soaked on electrolyte mix, VERY cheap to make, with one mag rod and one copper plate of good quality you can get 100 anodes and cathodes, cheers

[MonsieurM]

one bit of info , worth exploring (not necessarily found in the kitchen ) is Dead Sea Salt ... often referenced in alternative discussions ( mostly for ORMUS making )

ps: It is a good salt to have in the kitchen

[NickZ]

I'm also very offended that you are criticizing the peanut butter and jelly cells.
Good thing that I didn't make any. Ha!
Worlds best kept secret... still unknown.

[b_rads]

Play Nice!

Also, if anyone else here is offended by anything i said, i apologize, i'm only looking to learn and make some energy, that's all

Yes, to learn and make some energy is the quest for most of us on this forum. And, yes, your comments were rude and offensive to the people working on this project, spending their time, money, and effort in this endeavor.

See the attachment below for the closest thing that I have built to satisfy your request. This setup puts out 12+volts and 40mA. These cells have been in use for over 4 years and the cost of this system is less than 10 dollars. It will charge secondary batteries, caps, and run all of my electronic toys. In the picture below, you can see it lighting an LED from the lights above my workbench. When you figure out how to make this from scratch in the kitchen, let me know and I will call you a hero.



@MonsieurM, thanks for the link on the fuel cells. Fuel Cells are my favorites, particularly the liquid fuel cells.

[cgalvisardila]

Also, if anyone else here is offended by anything i said, i apologize, i'm only looking to learn and make some energy, that's all

[cgalvisardila]

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Originally Posted by cgalvisardila View Post
To john bedini and chuck, hi guys, i hope you're doing well, please come back soon, we really miss your input... there's still too much talk about table salt and peanut butter and jelly cells here... too much talk about micro amps and how amazing it is that elmers glue can make tiny power.... i want to get some AMPS soon, some people here seem to be taking this as a science fair hobby project, not me i have a plan of moving to the woods and one day get off the grid and i want that day to come soon, i want to take some free energy to the jungle to the kofan indian tribes that healed my crazy ass so they can stop spending the little money they make on gasoline for their inefficient generators... were facing a serious problem very soon, its not time to be playing around... please i for one would love to have you back on this thread sharing your knowledge, i know you cant reveal every detail but you inspire the ones who are serious about studying and building these cells, hope you find a way to keep pointing us to the right direction.... cheers

cgalvisardila,

Cynicism? what do you think your comment was?

I can see that John and chuck have put allot of time, effort and money into this R&D, which will need to be recouped

Do you think they are just in it for a giveaway? think again (but any information they can share is appreciated)

You just slammed everyone else here, as not relevant and wasting your time

I would encourage everyone attending here to post and share, even the cell failures teach us something of value

Did you ever think that a chili powder cell would give 1.6 volts and over 500Ma ?

Another spice I tried was ground Cloves, this gave 1.88 volts and over 600 Ma

The size of material used was 1/8 the size that John uses

I can laugh at the use of spices for power cells, but you can not scoff at the power results

So please do not preach at me

Also plengo just shared some valuable information on his cells he is creating, this is appreciated

Good luck

hey alwest, no need to get upset, i'm just saying that organic material will get bad soon, (guess i should have said it like that exactly) the cell won't last... i appreciate very much every single thread of information here, i read it all carefully. please my friend, speak for yourself, i haven't slammed anyone, never had since i joined, please everyone, i have great respect for all of you, i replicate every experiment i can, and honestly according to the results i got so far, Fausto (that's plengo's name), john and chuck and lidmotor are the researches i most carefully follow (although i haven't been able to build those wonderful oscillators you build lidmotor, keep it up ) right now i'm working on a miniaturized plate like design to stack many thin cells, soon i'll post on this, i'm getting 4v at 100Ma a single cell about 1inch by 1 inch, just 3 plates, using a hybrid of a bedini mix and a Fausto mix (carbon alum, hydrate #5 a pinch of MnO2 and pyrite... i got the idea from the video you shared Alwest... so please don't put words in my mouth, you don't know if i appreciate something or not just because i'm pointing out that i've seen better results on this thread than what anything with organic material has reached, and want to encourage people and the older more experienced men to help us go for high power/high efficiency/durability. if any of these miss, the cell wont perform as needed... not expecting a giveaway from anyone, never said that either, just asking for help, i do appreciate your work Alwest i follow it also, but i don't replicate it because i know already that organic material wont last long, i do feel amazed that you can get that kind of power from chilli, i hope you find a way to make it work and prove me wrong, show me a video of a chilli cell that's older than 6 months and keep giving 1.88v at 600 Ma, that would be beyond awesome, please.... no disrespect intended brother, maybe sometimes writing messages don't give a sense of the mood the words come with.... seen this happen before not long ago in this very thread....

[Allwest]

Quote:
Originally Posted by cgalvisardila View Post
To john bedini and chuck, hi guys, i hope you're doing well, please come back soon, we really miss your input... there's still too much talk about table salt and peanut butter and jelly cells here... too much talk about micro amps and how amazing it is that elmers glue can make tiny power.... i want to get some AMPS soon, some people here seem to be taking this as a science fair hobby project, not me i have a plan of moving to the woods and one day get off the grid and i want that day to come soon, i want to take some free energy to the jungle to the kofan indian tribes that healed my crazy ass so they can stop spending the little money they make on gasoline for their inefficient generators... were facing a serious problem very soon, its not time to be playing around... please i for one would love to have you back on this thread sharing your knowledge, i know you cant reveal every detail but you inspire the ones who are serious about studying and building these cells, hope you find a way to keep pointing us to the right direction.... cheers

cgalvisardila,

Cynicism? what do you think your comment was?

I can see that John and chuck have put allot of time, effort and money into this R&D, which will need to be recouped

Do you think they are just in it for a giveaway? think again (but any information they can share is appreciated)

You just slammed everyone else here, as not relevant and wasting your time

I would encourage everyone attending here to post and share, even the cell failures teach us something of value

Did you ever think that a chili powder cell would give 1.6 volts and over 500Ma ?

Another spice I tried was ground Cloves, this gave 1.88 volts and over 600 Ma

The size of material used was 1/8 the size that John uses

I can laugh at the use of spices for power cells, but you can not scoff at the power results

So please do not preach at me

Also plengo just shared some valuable information on his cells he is creating, this is appreciated

Good luck

[NickZ]

@ MonsieurM:
Thanks for the link, very interesting about the magnesium/salt water cells.
Here is the enlarged picture of the mag crystal cluster:

[cgalvisardila]

i wonder what are the chemicals they use in the cell.... any ideas? looks like its pretty serious if it can run a fan and a light bulb like that, with only 10 aluminum plates

Energy From Aluminum - YouTube