Peter Daysh Davey Water Heater Query

[We.The.People]

I've been avoiding this for a length of time that should be adequate for at least one person to properly replicate the mystery persons concept by now...

Before I read almost fifty pages of fluff,
has anyone succeeded with a replication ?

I only ask because all the tuning fluff was occurring in only air,
which has NOTHING to do with actual resonance WITH WATER.

Normally I would just make a few sandwiches and just read it all,
but I became sceptical early on due to incomplete data availability...

[osamaricu_te]

Thanks:


I must add that the further development of this basic idea by DaemonBart (IKEA flask etc.) has NOT yet been tested by me nor my colleague in France -- and that I respect his work and the data he showed. I have not given up on this!

I personally think there might be something in this but honestly, I tried everything that I personally could have think of ... I didnt give up BUT I did run out of ideas on what to do, so I am watching this closely in case some new info shows up or I get some fresh ideas.

Regards

[PhysicsProf]

Thanks:

Thank you very much for your answer professor. I personally have utmost respect for people like you.
You act not only talk and you are unbiased, interested in greater good... all that said, that is why I wanted to hear this info from you.
Thanks again for the answer.

I must add that the further development of this basic idea by DaemonBart (IKEA flask etc.) has NOT yet been tested by me nor my colleague in France -- and that I respect his work and the data he showed. I have not given up on this!

[osamaricu_te]

It is a fair question.
I feel that the researcher in France has done a good job in testing the "Davey device" (DD), which Prof Savic provided a photo of already (see attached). This is not Prof Savic's most advanced device, he assures me, but is the one he sent for testing so we did so.

Our French colleague had a very solid approach in his testing IMO -- he compared the heat rise in water using the DD with the heat rise in water using an electric kettle which he purchased. He then used a Watt-hour meter to apply the SAME watt-hours of input energy to each device, adjusting for the same amount of water.

The result -- the DD produced less heat rise in the water than did the electric kettle, for the same energy input. Prof Savic has recommended certain tuning procedures, so the tests are not "finished" at this time.

Thank you very much for your answer professor. I personally have utmost respect for people like you.
You act not only talk and you are unbiased, interested in greater good... all that said, that is why I wanted to hear this info from you.
Thanks again for the answer.

On a side note, like I said in previous post, I made a small replica of lloyd tanner friction device... Its not the same but works on same principle. Long story short, after various designs and testing, I got poor results on that one too.

@ALL

Anyone has any other suggestions for a replica to be made, but based on mechanical principle rather than electric circuits ???

Something from forums or something interesting you would like to get tested?

[RAMSET]

Forgive My insolence

Osalami Te

Quote:
Since when do you go by nick of PhysicsProf ?

My question was directed specifically to Prof.Steven and not to you.

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Forgive me I meant only to encourage.

The words were meant for all....

Chet

[wrtner]

Prof Savic has recommended certain tuning procedures,
so the tests are not "finished" at this time.

This sounds very casual. The tuning is thought to be absolutely crucial.

I think we are confusing two devices:

1. the double bell system of Peter Davey where each bell is ground
down so that it rings at an octave of the local mains frequency, i.e.
where the mains is 50hz, we would probably settle for 200hz or 400hz
and where the mains is 60hz, we might use 240hz or 480hz.
(The image in post 1759, above, seems to be of this type).

and

2. the IKEA thermos flask double tube arrangement, an interesting
development, but not the same, with various suggested frequencies.

Paul-R

[PhysicsProf]

@PhysicsProf

Any news to update us on the device you received and how about the test? I read on your other topic that you had Savic device shipped to a fellow researcher in France and he was going to do the tests and you stated we will get some results soon.
Just wanted to ask if you got the device, is it tested and what are the results?

In case you answered this on another topic I apologize but I couldnt find it.

Thanks

It is a fair question.
I feel that the researcher in France has done a good job in testing the "Davey device" (DD), which Prof Savic provided a photo of already (see attached). This is not Prof Savic's most advanced device, he assures me, but is the one he sent for testing so we did so.

Our French colleague had a very solid approach in his testing IMO -- he compared the heat rise in water using the DD with the heat rise in water using an electric kettle which he purchased. He then used a Watt-hour meter to apply the SAME watt-hours of input energy to each device, adjusting for the same amount of water.

The result -- the DD produced less heat rise in the water than did the electric kettle, for the same energy input. Prof Savic has recommended certain tuning procedures, so the tests are not "finished" at this time.

[gene gene]

@ osamaricu te

Sorry for off topic.

Hi osmaricu te,
I would be very interested in any info on your friction steam boiler build.
The best place to post any test results, pics, drawings, ect. would be
here http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post31085

Thanks, Gene

[osamaricu_te]

O Te
Be assured, Providence has been set in motion.........
With the goal being to make this world a better place!

Thx
Chet

Since when do you go by nick of PhysicsProf ?

My question was directed specifically to Prof.Steven and not to you.

As direct as I am, my questions are also direct and additionally simple, if PhysicsProf finds time, I am sure he will answer, thats all I asked.

Thanks

P.S. While I took a break on this device/topic, I worked on FRICTION HEATER by lloyd tanner.
Assembled working prototype (smaller version though) and tested it.

[RAMSET]

[osamaricu_te]

Savic`s boiler tests

@PhysicsProf

Any news to update us on the device you received and how about the test? I read on your other topic that you had Savic device shipped to a fellow researcher in France and he was going to do the tests and you stated we will get some results soon.
Just wanted to ask if you got the device, is it tested and what are the results?

In case you answered this on another topic I apologize but I couldnt find it.

Thanks

[wrtner]

Don't forget that you can tune a cylindrical item by cutting a groove
in it. Dave Lawton uses this for his developments on Stan Meyer's
electrolysis gear. Also, this is used for tuning organ pipes. See the
paragraph on scroll tuning and the rather scruffy picture of
sopmeone's work:

Pipe Construction

Paul-R

[boguslaw]

I misunderstood what he meant for us to do and had removed the bevel from my cans entirely. You did good!!

No, you didn't. At least I think that original schematic was suggesting that can has to be cut evenly without leaving bevel intact.But I had no tools to do that so I did what i did ;-) Only hand china tools here Such cutted can is very steady stiff comparing to the can with bevel removed.

Try such experiment : ping a can hanging it by rod attached to the bottom center as per schematic and then gently rub around the edge (polished! do not cut yourself) with any soft but hard rod like wood stick covered by cloth for example. You will hear similiar sound like in singing tibet bowl.

[Slovenia]

Misunderstood

I misunderstood what he meant for us to do and had removed the bevel from my cans entirely. You did good!!

Nice.We are thining the same way this is exactly the way I cut can and I regulate distance between can and my cover cup .

[boguslaw]

Configuration of can and tuning setup.

Nice.We are thining the same way this is exactly the way I cut can and I regulate distance between can and my cover cup .