Peter Daysh Davey Water Heater Query

[Slovenia]

Message from Mr. "C"

Message from Mr. "C"

Oct. 29, 2011
Post to forum:
The sonic boiler diameter 65mm = 1 / 4 wavelength of the wave he catches .= = 260mm 65x4 = 1.1530479 MHz wave

[Slovenia]

Pure Water in a Can (24 oz Can of Water)

Pure water in a can (Denver Based Company) 24 oz cans

[Slovenia]

Yes

Boguslaw,

Thanks!! Yes, but they'll have to be ordered from Montana or Idaho so that also presents a logistics problem and expense of ordering but they are available for order.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Wow! Seems you have the SOLUTION !

[boguslaw]

US Domestic Beer 24 oz Can

Black Star Beer 24 oz cans (US Domestic Beer)

Wow! Seems you have the SOLUTION !

[Slovenia]

US Domestic Beer 24 oz Can

US Domestic Beer 24 oz Can

Black Star Beer 24 oz cans (US Domestic Beer)

[MonsieurM]

I just wanted to make a remark, you know guys that guitars or any musical instrument can come in any sizes and yet still be tuned the right way...my personal opinion is we are building a "musical instrument"...so if you can't find the right size, you can still adapt

by the way spoons are also used as musical instrument:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoon_(musical_instrument)

[Slovenia]

Electrolysis (Polarity Issue Maybe)

Make sure your can is hooked to the power and your ring to the neutral. Otherwise, you will have an electrolysis issue and the boiler won't work as designed, invented. The ring has to be made of a good stable material such as but not limited to 304L stainless or titanium.

[Slovenia]

Stainless Water Bottles

Hi Eternalightwithin,

Glad to see you working on this boiler with us. Yes, the stainless steel water bottles would probably not be the way to go. The beer and pop cans are only .1mm thick and that's about where you need to be. Plus, the beer cans have been proven to work and the stainless steel water bottles haven't yet. I'd suggest the cans and I'll find you a source for 24 oz domestic cans soon. I'll try to have something by tomorrow.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

I couldn't find any fruit juice can, or any other can for that matter, on a google search or in the stores.

But I did pull up those 24oz stainless steel water bottles, several google pages in. They look about the right height and diameter. I'd have to go to walmart and compare to a monster drink can to be sure. No problem getting these.

The only issue I can see is that these would be thicker than a aluminum can.
But if they are longer, then this would nullify the thickness issue.

[eternalightwithin]

I couldn't find any fruit juice can, or any other can for that matter, on a google search or in the stores.

But I did pull up those 24oz stainless steel water bottles, several google pages in. They look about the right height and diameter. I'd have to go to walmart and compare to a monster drink can to be sure. No problem getting these.

The only issue I can see is that these would be thicker than a aluminum can.
But if they are longer, then this would nullify the thickness issue.

[Slovenia]

Electrolysis

Hi Chet,

Thanks for the pittying. I was pittying myself pretty much because that job was enough of a pain the first time around.

Mr. "C" doesn't have a problem with electrolysis. The rings he uses are either titanium or stainless. He prefers the titanium however. I have some titanium and will be testing it soon hopefully. Anyway, he never mentioned electrolysis with either the AC or DC. The boiler is supposed to run is AC and the hydrogen device is supposed to run with DC but electrolysis was never a problem for him. He didn't explain everything he was doing though. He gave us a fair picture but wanted to see us try this first. If we made a good attempt, I was under the impression he might help us fill in some of the blanks.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Sir
It occured to me whilst I was Pittying poor Slovenia for having to do a Job all over from Scratch [his power steering job].

That we as a group could be heading down the same road??
Can you please share more about your "Can Dissapearing"?? was this during some DC trials or????????

The Professor has not mentioned {to my Knowledge] an issue with Electrolysis! Having stated this device has run without issue for some years?? [I believe that is what he said].

Please??
Thank you
Chet

[RAMSET]

A Plea to the Daemonbart

Sir
It occured to me whilst I was Pittying poor Slovenia for having to do a Job all over from Scratch [his power steering job].

That we as a group could be heading down the same road??
Can you please share more about your "Can Dissapearing"?? was this during some DC trials or????????

The Professor has not mentioned {to my Knowledge] an issue with Electrolysis! Having stated this device has run without issue for some years?? [I believe that is what he said].

Please??
Thank you
Chet

[Slovenia]

24 oz Domestic Cans (USA)

There is another energy drink that comes in 24 oz cans and it is called Mega Monster Energy. It can be had at Walmart & Amazon.com.



I'll find some other fruit drink possibilities too.


Black Star Beer 24 oz cans (US Domestic Beer)

[Slovenia]

Agree on USA Specs

Hi Chet,

I agree that we in USA need to agree on how we should proceed. I have been out of the loop with respect to experimenting for a while but intend to get back in the game soon. I changed out my power steering pump and the new one leaks, so I must have got a bad pump. Anyway, that's what I have been doing.

I think 110 volts is probably what we need to use for now and then for efficiency sake maybe go with 220 volts later. I haven't had a chance to test my titanium ring material yet or a longer can. Mr. "C" recommended that we use a 200mm length can after his US replication, so I think that's what he had to get from somewhere and use. To get that length unspliced, we're going to need to go with a 24 oz fruit drink can. There diameter may be a little different too, so that might change length parameters too. I think Jason will find us the right size of can to experiment with soon. He is right on that aspect for us. Thanks Jason!!

I also agree with baselines; saving findings; and comparing findings. I can't wait to get back in the game.

Yes, sanding a full can is a great idea. Sanding a cutoff open can is a real pain in the neck.

The pvc sewer pipe is relatively cheap and what Mr. "C" uses. Of course if you want something you can see through, you're going to have to go with acrylic like I did.

Very good ideas!!!

Best Regards,
Slovenia

I guess the only logical thing to do now is let you fellows with access to the proper Can build to the PDF spec.

And we the deprived will have to "wing it" .
Of course this will have immediate benefits for comparison.

One thing we should do Slovenia ,Jason, and ?? is agree on a can size
agree on a voltage ?

Then we start a baseline 1/4 inch gap down to [or bigger]?? we each try a dimension and share our findings ??

establish a test tank [5 gal plastic pail sounds good [availablity].
A test protocol??
I would like to start with a cheap can of something I can actually drink
[I believe sanding a full can will be easier than an empty can?]

Ideas??
perhaps a vote?

Chet
PS
I see DB is almost ready for a moon launch!![pulsing ,Ac, DC, PC, etc......]{great stuff daemonbart]

[cornfused]

Chet,
The clostest can I could find at the local gas station was the red bull 20 oz. I went in there with a set of dial calipers and started measuring. The clerk thought I was nuts. The red bull is a little short, but diameter is really pretty close, and I'm pretty sure we could get this can to bounce that nail really good at the 60 Hz tone. Of course I dont have any previous experience with sound resonance, but I'm just kinda feeling it all out and trying to do what seems logical. I got plenty of old 5 gal. Plastic buckets around here, and I would like to start with 120 a/c. I'm pretty sure I have some stainless and brass .010 shim stock sheets here someplace too that the ring will be made from. As soon as I can get happy with the can tuning, ill post my length. For now, if anyone wants to try a 20 oz red bull, 7 1/4" measured from the bottom of can as it would be sitting on table is a good start, about 75 Hz. It will be later tonight before I get to work on this again, I'll post updates as I get results.
Cheers,
Jason

[RAMSET]

Thanks boguslaw

I guess the only logical thing to do now is let you fellows with access to the proper Can build to the PDF spec.

And we the deprived will have to "wing it" .
Of course this will have immediate benefits for comparison.

One thing we should do Slovenia ,Jason, and ?? is agree on a can size
agree on a voltage ?

Then we start a baseline 1/4 inch gap down to [or bigger]?? we each try a dimension and share our findings ??

establish a test tank [5 gal plastic pail sounds good [availablity].
A test protocol??
I would like to start with a cheap can of something I can actually drink
[I believe sanding a full can will be easier than an empty can?]

Ideas??
perhaps a vote?

Chet
PS
I see DB is almost ready for a moon launch!![pulsing ,Ac, DC, PC, etc......]{great stuff daemonbart]