Peter Daysh Davey Water Heater Query

[Slovenia]

Copper Tube

Hi Gordon,

I haven't tried the copper tube yet but will give it a go soon. When I was making HHO in previous years, the neutral was where all the corrosion was. 304 stainless would rust through in two days. I had copper corroding through in about three hours but, my neutral will be either stainless or titanium from now on, so that shouldn't be a problem. The resonance of the copper may be a factor though. Thanks for your recommendations. When you recommend something I always feel like maybe a higher authority told you to do so, so I take your posts very seriously. Thanks for sharing here!!

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Amen

ps: since we are still in the experimental stage, have you tried a copper tube with an iron ring...

[MonsieurM]

The change is upon us ,the opportunity is here, the time is Now!

"Until one is committed, there is hesitancy,the chance to draw back, always ineffectiveness. Concerning all acts of initiative and creation, there is one elementary truth, the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. All sorts of things occur to help one that would never have otherwise occurred. A whole... stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents and meetings and material assistance which no man can have dreamed would have come his way. Whatever you can do or dream you can begin it. Boldness has genius, power, and magic in it. Begin it now." ~ Goethe

Lets do this Men!!

Chet

Amen

ps: since we are still in the experimental stage, have you tried a copper tube with an iron ring...

[Slovenia]

Amen!!

Hi Chet,

Well Said!! You came a long and helped me hang in there or I would have dropped this thread long ago when some detractors were poking at me. I just didn't have time for them and you helped me to see the light and keep sharing. Thank you very much for all you have done!! Without you, I would not have continued to share and I would never have made a replication on this thread. I would have made my own secret replication and kept it to myself. That is what some of our lurkers are doing, taking, replicating sonic boiler, and not sharing.

P.S.: I'm looking at some other materials to try in place of the aluminum can. So far, I haven't had any problems with the can but, I've kept my options open. I want a long term machine that only requires minimal maintenance. I haven't seen any stainless tins with reasonably thin walls that could be used in lieu of the aluminum cans yet. I think we'll have to fab them if we want something like that. There's plenty of thin stainless sheet out there. How to cap the bottom without affecting the resonance is another big problem. The aluminum cans are so perfect and resonant.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Fellows
If we prayed endless hours asking for a simple device to warm our homes
It could not be any simpler than this one!!

If DB never shared another word or they closed this thread and shut down the world ,it would make no difference!!
The change is upon us ,the opportunity is here, the time is Now!

"Until one is committed, there is hesitancy,the chance to draw back, always ineffectiveness. Concerning all acts of initiative and creation, there is one elementary truth, the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. All sorts of things occur to help one that would never have otherwise occurred. A whole... stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents and meetings and material assistance which no man can have dreamed would have come his way. Whatever you can do or dream you can begin it. Boldness has genius, power, and magic in it. Begin it now." ~ Goethe

Lets do this Men!!

Chet

[RAMSET]

Simplicity

Fellows
If we prayed endless hours asking for a simple device to warm our homes
It could not be any simpler than this one!!

If DB never shared another word or they closed this thread and shut down the world ,it would make no difference!!
The change is upon us ,the opportunity is here, the time is Now!

"Until one is committed, there is hesitancy,the chance to draw back, always ineffectiveness. Concerning all acts of initiative and creation, there is one elementary truth, the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. All sorts of things occur to help one that would never have otherwise occurred. A whole... stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents and meetings and material assistance which no man can have dreamed would have come his way. Whatever you can do or dream you can begin it. Boldness has genius, power, and magic in it. Begin it now." ~ Goethe

Lets do this Men!!

Chet

[Slovenia]

They Are Real

Yes, they are very real and that is sad, but they have controlled us long enough. Glad to have you here Duncan!!

[Duncan]

Helping out is important to me just as I have learned it is to to you my friends

I know we can go far in developing this and other devices united and supporting each other

It is really about safety only right now (saying that i guess is the same as uploading pics?)..

My experience about heating and cooling has grown from many years working hard, and I know you fellows do the same!

I am thinking about options to be atleast in some way invisible and sharing at the same time

I have got some advice about how to do that, I will work more on that later today.

My progress is depending mostly on my fantastic wife I think !

And without you guys i would not even know about this device!

I kind of used the "hit and miss" way to get it going.

I promise I will help out in some way

Kind rgds D

[Slovenia]

Ring Mfg Method (Repeat Info)

Ring Manufacturing Method:
I have already shared in previous posts how to make the ring, how to radius the flat material, etc.. I have also shared how to figure out the length of the material to be used for the ring and where to mark on that flat material where the tabs are and over bend material. Without this information, you will not be able to make a ring to the required specifications. It's really quite easy but it is mathmatical and you have to understand simple mathmatics to arrive at the right length of material to work with. Anyway, I marked up some new material yesterday for show for photographing so you'll be able to see what I mean. Seeing is easier sometimes than reading. I will take those pics today and post them later on this post.

Ring Holding Tab:
I arrived at a new length for the tab, 13mm. I wanted to keep everything in metric so there was less margin for error. I added what I refer to as an over-tab on the outside end of one of the tabs. The purpose of the over-tab is to stay the tabs, (i.e.: join them together without solder and/or any other bonding material). The over-tab length is 6.5mm. Once you have your tabs bent out at 90 degrees, bend the over-tab over onto the opposing tab to help hold it in place. This works extremely well. The material then effectively becomes one piece of material and is very easy to work with.

Slotted Ring Holder:
Now, you just put your tab into your slotted ring holder, threaded bolt with slot in the end of it, and affix it in place with either super glue or with a screw threaded into the end of your threaded slot holder.

This assembly is easy to make and works very well. The super glue even works well. If you are going to use super glue, put your tab in the slotted bolt before adding the super flue so your conductive surface is not covered. I just placed super glue on the top and bottom of my slot once my ring tab was already in the slot. That particular ring was my test ring and it is still attaced by the same super glue to the ring holder.

[Slovenia]

Trustworthy Guy

Hi Daemonbart,

I am a trustworthy guy. I am the one who shared this device with everyone. But for my sharing with you, you would not know about this device. You have expertise which many of us do not have. We need your help. If you are afraid to post here, you know my e-mail address, post to me and I will share in an anonymous way without mentioning you. If security is an issue for you, get an anonymous e-mail account and send me information from that account to my private e-mail. You know my private e-mail, I am not secret to you. Please share your information with me!! I will share your information without associating that information to you.

We would really like to hear more from you. Your knowledge and background make you very important to this project.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Helping out is important to me just as I have learned it is to to you my friends

I know we can go far in developing this and other devices united and supporting each other

It is really about safety only right now (saying that i guess is the same as uploading pics?)..

My experience about heating and cooling has grown from many years working hard, and I know you fellows do the same!

I am thinking about options to be atleast in some way invisible and sharing at the same time

I have got some advice about how to do that, I will work more on that later today.

My progress is depending mostly on my fantastic wife I think !

And without you guys i would not even know about this device!

I kind of used the "hit and miss" way to get it going.

I promise I will help out in some way

Kind rgds D

[daemonbart]

Helping fellow man!

Helping out is important to me just as I have learned it is to to you my friends

I know we can go far in developing this and other devices united and supporting each other

It is really about safety only right now (saying that i guess is the same as uploading pics?)..

My experience about heating and cooling has grown from many years working hard, and I know you fellows do the same!

I am thinking about options to be atleast in some way invisible and sharing at the same time

I have got some advice about how to do that, I will work more on that later today.

My progress is depending mostly on my fantastic wife I think !

And without you guys i would not even know about this device!

I kind of used the "hit and miss" way to get it going.

I promise I will help out in some way

Kind rgds D

[Slovenia]

Titanium Cutting

Hi Chet,

Yes, I'm excited about the thread too. I had no idea a pair of scissors would cut titanium strip. Maybe what I was sold was not titanium after all. I hope it is but it was $4.25 per foot including shipping and that's really to good to be true for titanium strip. We'll have to wait and see about the results.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Slovenia
I am just loving this thread!! So many cool guys sharing such amazing things!!
PPS
I can't believe you're cutting Titanium with Pasty scissors??[that has to be some kind of Over Unity?]

[RAMSET]

Got snowed Out.............

Daemonbart
perhaps if I was not so busy trying to keep my home from the wolves I would be enjoying more cost effective heat??

Just had to leave my lovely Domicile do to mother natures late autumn
snow storm [will most likely be Weeks without power]

Could you Daemonbart take pity on your fellow man and share a few specifics??

IE Diameter , length ETC.........?[perhaps you test Procedure?]

Starting tomorrow I will once again be in the bowels of a ship [at anchor] attempting to get her sea worthy !!

I am quite envious of your progress [and the time to replicate]!!
Anything you can share will help Many of our fellows to also have a nice warm winter!!

Thank you
Chet
\PS
Slovenia
I am just loving this thread!! So many cool guys sharing such amazing things!!
PPS
I can't believe you're cutting Titanium with Pasty scissors??[that has to be some kind of Over Unity?]

[Slovenia]

Titanium Ring Material

.098mm Thickness
The titanium strip cuts really easy with just a pair of sharp regular scissors. I just marked a line with a fine tip magic marker where I needed to cut and the scissors did a perfect job.

I started out with a pair of tin snips and screwed up my first ring strip.

[Duncan]

water

Thanks monsieurM -- I am reading through .. Its riviting stuff! and we just take it for granted .. I'll get back to electrocuting myself ....soon

[MonsieurM]

if you are interested in water;

this is a transfer from http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post154572

Water phase anomalies
Water has unusually high melting point.
Water has unusually high boiling point.
Water has unusually high critical point.
Solid water exists in a wider variety of stable (and metastable) crystal and amorphous structures than other materials.
The thermal conductivity of ice reduces with increasing pressure.
The structure of liquid water changes at high pressure. Liquid water exists at very low temperatures and freezes on heating.
Liquid water may be easily superheated.
Hot water may freeze faster than cold water; the Mpemba effect.
Warm water vibrates longer than cold water.


Water density anomalies
The density of ice increases on heating (up to 70 K).
Water shrinks on melting.
Pressure reduces ice's melting point.

The surface of water is more dense than the bulk.
Pressure reduces the temperature of maximum density.
There is a minimum in the density of supercooled water.
Water has a low coefficient of expansion (thermal expansivity).
Water's thermal expansivity reduces increasingly (becoming negative) at low temperatures.
Water's thermal expansivity increases with increased pressure.
The number of nearest neighbors increases on melting.
The number of nearest neighbors increases with temperature.
Water has unusually low compressibility. [Explanation]

There is a maximum in the compressibility-temperature relationship.

The speed of sound may show a minimum.
'Fast sound' is found at high frequencies and shows an discontinuity at higher pressure. The dielectric constant of water is high.
The dielectric constant shows a temperature maximum.
Proton and hydroxide ion mobilities are anomalously fast in an electric field.

Acidity constants of weak acids show temperature minima.
X-ray diffraction shows an unusually detailed structure.
Under high pressure water molecules move further away from each other with increasing pressure. Water has over twice the specific heat capacity of ice or steam.
The specific heat capacity (CP and CV) is unusually high. Water has unusually high viscosity.Water has unusually high surface tension.
Some salts give a surface tension-concentration minimum; the Jones-Ray effect.
Some salts prevent the coalescence of small bubbles.

don't forget to add the special properties of water seen in the documentary on water ...see http://www.energeticforum.com/152708-post377.html

[Duncan]

The Many Benefits of Hydrogen Peroxide By Dr. David G. WilliamsMasaru Emoto - Water is Life ( NARRATIVE VERSION ) - YouTube

They eventually get the same results though .. the bottles talk back!

What of the additives for our benefit? Look at these guys strolling for their shower http://www.sacred-destinations.com/a...rchives-pd.jpg I'd like to think if I was in that situation I'd have the balls to try and take one of the bastards out, they could not their resistance was robbed, how ??
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Maria Orsic and VRIL - YouTube there was, and there might have been a Roswell incident or there might not. And this likewise newworldhorizon's Channel - YouTube