Peter Daysh Davey Water Heater Query

[boguslaw]

Ask here maybe Amtec - Polish Beer Importers

[boguslaw]

I Give up .......can someone help with these cans??

They are Jeleno Pivo Serbian "Deer Beer "500 ml [1/2 liter] cans [252 year old company].

I hear they have them in Canada?? I am unable to find a supplier anywhere in North America.

HELP!!!!!
Please if you are in Canada Can you check and post an address or Number

PLEASE
Thanks
Chet
PS
I like the Dielectric aspect to this device [inside isolated like a monster Coax.....]

RAMSET

Go to any larger USA town , which have Polish district or Polish shops and ask for Polish beer in 500ml aluminium can.
Żywiec for example http://www.shopandgo.pl/public/image...1559140009.jpg

[RAMSET]

Dead in the water..........

I Give up .......can someone help with these cans??

They are Jeleno Pivo Serbian "Deer Beer "500 ml [1/2 liter] cans [252 year old company].

I hear they have them in Canada?? I am unable to find a supplier anywhere in North America.

HELP!!!!!
Please if you are in Canada Can you check and post an address or Number

PLEASE
Thanks
Chet
PS
I like the Dielectric aspect to this device [inside isolated like a monster Coax.....]

[Slovenia]

Cleaning Can

No, he only talked about sanding the outside of the can and the conductivity issue was never mentioned. Tuning of the can was the only reason given for sanding the can and paint removal was never discussed either.

Hello Slovenia. Did your siberian contact clean inside his can?

For those who don't know, inside of the cans is coated with a plastic called
Bi sphenal-a. Clearly this would make the can's inside non conductive.

By the way BPA is a female hormone and can effect masculinity in men and cause cancer in women.

Now if we knew what we were doing, using Stainless steel would make things a lot easier.

Epoxy Resin Can Coatings: Bisphenol A Safety

[AhuraMazda]

clean can?

Hello Slovenia. Did your siberian contact clean inside his can?

For those who don't know, inside of the cans is coated with a plastic called
Bi sphenal-a. Clearly this would make the can's inside non conductive.

By the way BPA is a female hormone and can effect masculinity in men and cause cancer in women.

Now if we knew what we were doing, using Stainless steel would make things a lot easier.

Epoxy Resin Can Coatings: Bisphenol A Safety

[Slovenia]

Paint Removal from Can

Well, sad to say but I tried my carburetor cleaner and brake fluid on one of my cans to remove the paint and it didn't work at all. It didn't even phase the paint on the can. That is some tough paint. They've got some really tough coating on the cans to protect them evidently because the carburetor cleaner and brake fluid will take off car paint almost immediately. Anyway, I wanted to let you know those methods I offered do not work. Sorry!!

I then took a blow torch and tried to remove the paint with it and the can shriveled up almost immediately into an unusable material that had other not so cool properties. So don't use a blow torch either.

[Slovenia]

Nice to Hear

Thanks for your continued search for the cans.

Brake fluid or carburetor cleaner will remove the paint from the cans too. I'll be trying this soon and get back to everyone.

I have a power steering pump that's been a real pain trying to get it off my car to replace it out. It's at the bottom back of the engine where you can't get to it easily and/or reach retaining bolts.

Slovenia

I found an importer in Chicago last night [big Serbian community there],I'm going to be out all day on the water {Stuck below deck] but when I get back tonight I'll try to contact them?
Seems like these 1/2 liter cans are imported into Canada also?
Thanks again for sharing your experience daemonbart.

I do believe sanding the can removes some coating also? [Boguslaw pointed this out].

Thanks
Chet

[RAMSET]

daemonBart Nice ,thanks

Slovenia

I found an importer in Chicago last night [big Serbian community there],I'm going to be out all day on the water {Stuck below deck] but when I get back tonight I'll try to contact them?
Seems like these 1/2 liter cans are imported into Canada also?
Thanks again for sharing your experience daemonbart.

I do believe sanding the can removes some coating also? [Boguslaw pointed this out].

Thanks
Chet

[Slovenia]

Mounting Can

Boguslaw,

If you use the method I used for mounting your can, it will be very secure and not loose. I used a 1 inch end cap as my base and then pulled the can against that. I had the flat open side of the end cap pointing away from the can to the flat surface of the bottom of my boiler with 1/4 inch threaded rod holding everything in place with nuts and nylon washers. It is very secure indeed.

P.S.: Thanks for the info on the ss sink mounting strip. I have seen that in the past but forgot about it. Good material and reasonably priced.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

I use 6mm SS rod easy to get at plumbers shop. It is what hold kitchen sink pour (sorry, don't know the exact name of it)

http://www.republika.pl/tmdarlowo/SUMYW-00.JPG

One of the problem I see is too much looses - can is not mounted steady due to light can walls being not sturdy.

[Slovenia]

500ml Can

Hi Boguslaw,

I'm in Kansas City, Missouri, USA. The cans are not readily available here. We have cans but they are not that size. The European beers are mostly sold in bottles here too.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Slovenia

Do you really have problems to find 500ml beer can ??? where are you ? it should be cheap and popular can for beer in Europe !

[boguslaw]

I use 6mm SS rod easy to get at plumbers shop. It is what hold kitchen sink pour (sorry, don't know the exact name of it)

http://www.republika.pl/tmdarlowo/SUMYW-00.JPG

One of the problem I see is too much looses - can is not mounted steady due to light can walls being not sturdy.

[daemonbart]

Cans and steel

Hi again!

In the north of Europe where I live the 500ml cans are the most common, Germany and other uses mostly 330ml cans.

About Serbia I have to ask a friend of mine, origin from Serbia. He would be the perfect chap to consult about beer cans judging from his very impressive belly

When fixing up my first can, I used actually one 330ml can. I was sure that a crappy thing like a beer can never give up any nice sound after the very nice pssssthy , but I was surpriced..

First I made the hole in the bottom vith my very old turner, (from around 1930). After I also cut of the can with a sharp steel in the turner. I sanded the can a little with the can spinning in my stationary drill after I had fastened one 8mm bolt in my center hole.

I also sanded the cut off edge a little by putting the can in a hand drill and spinning it against concrete floor. And wow , hanging from the ceiling in a small string it was singing to me like a bell
I estimated the singin around 60hz on my scope connected to a microphone..?

Doing the hard work as proffessional lurker!

Kind rgds D

[boguslaw]

Well, I found the 500ml cans and they are readily available but not cheap and they are empty. They are Japanese and start at $4.99 plus $7.99 shipping. So, they are not a great value at that price but available. I'll keep looking for better cheaper options but a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush!! These babies come from Prague in Czech republic. They must be collector cans.

KIRIN 500 ml. ALUMINUM BEER CAN from JAPAN EMPTY !!! | eBay

Slovenia

Do you really have problems to find 500ml beer can ??? where are you ? it should be cheap and popular can for beer in Europe !

[Slovenia]

Found 500 ml cans

Well, I found the 500ml cans and they are readily available but not cheap and they are empty. They are Japanese and start at $4.99 plus $7.99 shipping. So, they are not a great value at that price but available. I'll keep looking for better cheaper options but a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush!! These babies come from Prague in Czech republic. They must be collector cans.

KIRIN 500 ml. ALUMINUM BEER CAN from JAPAN EMPTY !!! | eBay

[Slovenia]

Titanium Strips

I have a very good source for titanium strip. It is sold by the foot with free delivery in USA for $4.25 per foot. It is just under .1mm in thickness and 18.44mm wide. You can get four rings out of a single foot length of this stuff. Anyway, it's a heck of a value for sure. The stainless steel strip to similar dimensions is much harder to find and much more expensive because it's sold in larger quantities. I ordered three foot of this stuff for the inventor but he hasn't told me where to send it yet. It's fantastic stuff. It's very rigid and thin. I think it's just what we're looking for. I'm going to order another foot of it tonight.

Titanium Strip Sheet Plate .0035" x .726" by the foot | eBay

Attention: There's only 10 feet of this stuff left!!