Peter Daysh Davey Water Heater Query

[MonsieurM]

for instance 60 hz 1/4 wavelength is : 1250000 meters
3/4 wavelength is : 3750000 meters
so the ring gap (using harmonic math ) should be 1.25 cm or .49 inches
height should 37.5 cm (can't really use 3.75 cm ) or 14.76 inch

you can reverse it too: 3.75 cm gap for a 12.5 cm height

[MonsieurM]

here is a frequency length calculator:

Frequency Wavelength Calculator

Message from Mr. "C"

Oct. 30, 2011
I want to help you practically and theoretically to make a Sonic Boiler and give cheaper warming.

Energy is free and is everywhere around us, only to catch the resonances to 1/4 wavelength to Taslima said ..
Sonic catches boiler scalar wave as an antenna, resonances to 1/4 wavelength and you use 3/4 height of a standing wave.
Scalar wave of light is faster than 1.54 times said Tesla and academician Professor Konstan Mail from Germania ..

Diameter of cans is 1/4 wavelength waves that capture resonances.
What is the diameter of the smaller cans to catch the wave has a higher frequency and more power within himself.
Tin cans of beer must be thin and long that can easily dojete 60 Hr audio frequencies. Cans of beer you have slimmed down to 60 Hz frequency sound.

COHERENCE AT ANY LEVEL IS COHERENCE AT ALL LEVELS.
An orderly arrangement between wave lengths establishes a connection between frequencies and fields. But for this connection to last, it must resonate to all frequencies and fields. This can only be accomplished through the resonate structure of golden mean pathways. a harmonic cascade effect


all your numbers have to relate to 1/4 wave of the frequency be it 60 hz...50 hz....your are creating a fractal construct...this is if you want optimal results

[MonsieurM]

this was posted by Farmhand on this thread http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ations-15.html , i think it is just as relevant here

Hi all, I was reading the Tesla Energy transmission Patents again and the
patents say nothing about the primary being a 1/4 wavelength of the secondary,
The Patents say the secondary (or the thin wire coils) needs to be approximately
1/4 of the wave length of the electrical disturbance in the circuit which has
nothing to do with the primary coil itself. However, the primary is used to
make the electrical disturbance so it must be made resonant at the desired
frequency to produce the oscillations to do that, I think. This can be done
with a different amount of primary turns and it's resonant frequency
determined by a capacitor.

From Magnifying Transmitter patent #1 119 732


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And also from the Magnifier patent.#1 119 732
The primary can be excited in any desirable manner, which can be a
condenser or an alternator.


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[Duncan]

They are here!

Duncan
Your input on this thread [and others] ,inspires!!
I can not thank you enough , your openness to these Blasphemess thoughts [to science] ,makes you very special!

Well firstly I have many members of my Circle of family and friends that are at the very top of their fields from Electrical Engineers to Nuclear Physicists
I don't bring these types of things up at the dinner table !!

If this Does what its claimed to do that will change overnight!!
Wesley has the right attitude about the PTB .
If nothing changes, Nothing changes..............Speak with Boldness!!

Thanks
Chet

[Duncan]

Specific HeatSpecific HeatConvert joule to kwh - Conversion of Measurement Units

[Slovenia]

Thanks

Thanks for sharing here!!

Im sure we talk about 80Wh, not Watt seconds in reference boiler, setup by Ramset!

But summary still not same , optimal for resistance heating is 1,16 Wh/deg celsius. I use only 1,16 when calculating cop, example: 1,16/0,28 = cop 4,14. This means OU device in this case only used 0,28Wh instead of 1,16Wh for heating one litre water one celsius degree

Also this does not include losses, maybe 10% lost to air and we have also heated walls of our container, if ceramic very heavy, if plastic not so much mass to heat.

Kind rgds D

[RAMSET]

Priceless!!

Duncan
Your input on this thread [and others] ,inspires!!
I can not thank you enough , your openness to these Blasphemess thoughts [to science] ,makes you very special!

Well firstly I have many members of my Circle of family and friends that are at the very top of their fields from Electrical Engineers to Nuclear Physicists
I don't bring these types of things up at the dinner table !!

If this Does what its claimed to do that will change overnight!!
Wesley has the right attitude about the PTB .
If nothing changes, Nothing changes..............Speak with Boldness!!

Thanks
Chet

[daemonbart]

Calculating!

Im sure we talk about 80Wh, not Watt seconds in reference boiler, setup by Ramset!

But summary still not same , optimal for resistance heating is 1,16 Wh/deg celsius. I use only 1,16 when calculating cop, example: 1,16/0,28 = cop 4,14. This means OU device in this case only used 0,28Wh instead of 1,16Wh for heating one litre water one celsius degree

Also this does not include losses, maybe 10% lost to air and we have also heated walls of our container, if ceramic very heavy, if plastic not so much mass to heat.

Kind rgds D

Message from Mr. "C"

Mathematics and Physics to calculate COP of sonic boiler:

For L of water to raise to 13.5 degrees Celsius for 10 minutes should be = (5000ml x 13.5 x 4.19) / 600 = 471.375 Wat / sec power rather than 80 Wat / sec as calculated by some guy from the forum. To calculate the base of the cliff COP heaters require a balance with two decimal places to excrements vapor and heat thermometer and multimeter to measure voltage and amperage draw of heater input. This is how it works.

[Duncan]

S
Duncan said he found the Amps were falling off in his experiment?

Now I want the dimensions even more!!
Please
Thanks
Chet

bubble.wmv - YouTubeWorking OU wake up. We are the People Save it now!!!!! - YouTube has forever changed the equation.
I just wish I could see a way to bring it into play here.. although I must confess was starting to think along the lines of fitting a SWR meter in the feed line.

[RAMSET]

I won't pretend to understand?

Thanks Slovenia for posting that info!

Well I suppose the best way to understand what this device is capable of is to finish my build and FIRE IT UP!!!!

A thought to my fellows...............

I was speaking to my friend this AM and he was sharing how his Mom just got a new Gas Furnace ,Its 97 % efficient !
A thought occurred to me an alliance of sorts with the powers that be??

My Poor underprivileged electric company benefits in no way whatsoever from the Revenues that are expended to heat my home!!

Very Sad indeed............

My Thought
If it becomes obvious we can make more heat with less electric .to the point where it becomes more efficient than gas???

We will all have a new friend ...............

and a much cleaner and cheaper way to heat our homes!!

Its not always what you know Sometimes its who you know ??

Food for thought ....................

Back to work for me
Chet

[Slovenia]

Message from Mr. "C"

Message from Mr. "C"

Mathematics and Physics to calculate COP of sonic boiler:

For L of water to raise to 13.5 degrees Celsius for 10 minutes should be = (5000ml x 13.5 x 4.19) / 600 = 471.375 Wat / sec power. To calculate the base of the cliff COP heaters require a balance with two decimal places to excrements vapor and heat thermometer and multimeter to measure voltage and amperage draw of heater input. This is how it works.

[Slovenia]

Updated Flask Diagram

Updated Flask Diagram

The 8mm bolt is attached to the threads on the thermos.

Inner & Outer Stainless sleeve, tube, are cut to exact same length. The tubes are tuned by grinding a very sharp edge on both ends of each tube. Take care to keep both tubes the same length!!

[daemonbart]

Cutting!

When i get my hands on thermos bottle I will try cutting it so I have as long as possible left! After I can tune up Hz by sanding of little by little!

Just as a suggestion

Slovenia I am anxious to Cut the Diamond??
Can you get a few overall dimensions and some instructions from your Contact?

Thank you
Chet
PS
I must admit I am confused by the Professors Graph?

[daemonbart]

Grid voltage

Hi!

230V 50Hz (phase - zero), but metering directly on device we have around 210-225 (losses). To keep voltage high as possible I recommend thick cables.

Phase - phase we have 400V. I have transformer 10 amp and adjustable from 10-260 V ac.

Rgds D

Daemonbart

What is the natural voltage in power grid in your country ? Did you tried with transformer method to step up or down voltage ? Can you elaborate ?

[daemonbart]

Agree with graph

Just in theory, dreaming on I guess..

Could superheated steam between ring and antenna at boiling mode result in lower amp draw



Kind rgds D

Graph from Mr. "C"

Figure: Consumption at Sonic Boiler