Peter Daysh Davey Water Heater Query

[Slovenia]

More Info

We shall see what we can get.

I love it S..........

More info please!!

Thanks
Chet

[RAMSET]

Unbelievably simple

I love it S..........

More info please!!

Thanks
Chet

[RAMSET]

Looks a little advanced

S
Somebody has been very busy!!
I like it!! Can you get the specs from your contact??
I see the long pipe ,I don't see a drive ring?

Seems like its hooked up like i giant resistor??
OH Boy maybe I'll have a nice warm House after all??

Thanks for posting this
Chet

[Slovenia]

Real IKEA Boiler In USE

This setup has some limitations but still works pretty well. It is 1000 W input and 5000 W output. We should aim for the current setup of Mr. "C". There are still some bugs to work out of the IKEA system.

Here's a pic of a real IKEA Boiler in use!!

[MonsieurM]

Slovenia, do you know why Pi (3.14) is being used as that calculating number? I don't, but I know that Walter Russell's diagrams and charts were found to use that number as well, somehow. I think one of the diagrams was "Law of crystallization" that used it.

That just stuck out to me -- very interesting. It says to me that the boiling phase shift could be related to crystals somehow. "All matter is crystalic in nature" -- W.Russell.

Again, Good work. I don't mean to derail anything here, your builds look promising and I can see something quirky about them.

==Romo

Pi, Phi and Fibonacci numbers



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On Friday, Emory mathematician Ken Ono will unveil new theories that answer these famous old questions.

Ono and his research team have discovered that partition numbers behave like fractals. They have unlocked the divisibility properties of partitions, and developed a mathematical theory for "seeing" their infinitely repeating superstructure. And they have devised the first finite formula to calculate the partitions of any number.

Partition (number theory), a way to write a number as a sum of other numbers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_(number_theory) )

[boguslaw]

Slovenia, do you know why Pi (3.14) is being used as that calculating number? I don't, but I know that Walter Russell's diagrams and charts were found to use that number as well, somehow. I think one of the diagrams was "Law of crystallization" that used it.

That just stuck out to me -- very interesting. It says to me that the boiling phase shift could be related to crystals somehow. "All matter is crystalic in nature" -- W.Russell.

Again, Good work. I don't mean to derail anything here, your builds look promising and I can see something quirky about them.

==Romo

I thought Pi was used to compute circumference of ring ??? it is Pi* 2*radius of circle which is Pi*diameter because diameter=2*radius

I don't know if that is the information you requested , if not then please elaborate.

[Slovenia]

Constant Pi

Hi Romo,

Yes, 3.14 is a constant that is required to be used in the formula for figuring circumference and also (Many) other formulas as well. As for why specifically it needs to be used, I don't understand the theory behind that, but I had to accept it's use on faith while taking higher Math and Physics because it was often a required constant in the formulas we were required to use. Walter Russel would have been able to explain the theory to us and I believe Mr. "C" too. But, I think for now we should just accept it. I can't wait to get my next phase of boiler made but I still have some tinkering before I'm ready to make that jump.

I appreciate the pat on the back. It took a little effort to come up with that design. I did that one mostly so others could see what was going on inside the reservoir during operation. My real boiler will be made from sewer pipe and nobody will be able to see what's going on inside it. We're still playing with the experimental phase here but it does look very promising indeed. Thanks!!

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Slovenia, do you know why Pi (3.14) is being used as that calculating number? I don't, but I know that Walter Russell's diagrams and charts were found to use that number as well, somehow. I think one of the diagrams was "Law of crystallization" that used it.

That just stuck out to me -- very interesting. It says to me that the boiling phase shift could be related to crystals somehow. "All matter is crystalic in nature" -- W.Russell.

Again, Good work. I don't mean to derail anything here, your builds look promising and I can see something quirky about them.

==Romo

[petar113507]

Hi Boguslaw,

I have enough information then to do the precise figuring for you then, because a standard European can is 65mm in diameter. I will provide you with the math I used to figure the length of the stainless for the ring. Remember, you need to add enough extra manterial on both ends of the ring for your ring holder and overlap piece. To figure the length of the material around the ring, you first have to figure the circumference of the ring with the formula below.

Formula:
Circumference = (3.14) X (Diameter of ring) = Ring Length!!
Circumference = (3.14) X (65mm + 2.1mm + 2.1mm)69.2mm
Circumference = (3.14) X (69.2mm) =
Circumference = 217.288mm = Ring Length

Ring Holder Tab = 13mm X 2 = 26mm
Tab Retainer Flap = 7mm

Brief Summary of Ring Info.:
You have to have extra material for your ring holder tab on each end of the ring material as well as an extra tab retainer flap material on one end to fold over and hold the tabs in place.

So, you need to add the Length of Ring + Tab Length + Tab Length + tab retainer flap = Total Length of Required Ring Material!!

Total Length Required = (See Below!!)
Circumference + 2(Tab) + Tab Retainer Flap
217.29mm + 2(13mm) + 7mm
Total Length Required = 250.29mm


You need to request strips of stainless 250.29mm X 5mm from Daemonbart. I'll draw you a diagram to show where you fold the metal for the ring too. I'll do that for you this evening.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Slovenia, do you know why Pi (3.14) is being used as that calculating number? I don't, but I know that Walter Russell's diagrams and charts were found to use that number as well, somehow. I think one of the diagrams was "Law of crystallization" that used it.

That just stuck out to me -- very interesting. It says to me that the boiling phase shift could be related to crystals somehow. "All matter is crystalic in nature" -- W.Russell.

Again, Good work. I don't mean to derail anything here, your builds look promising and I can see something quirky about them.

==Romo

[Slovenia]

Ring Length Information

Hi Boguslaw,

I have enough information then to do the precise figuring for you then, because a standard European can is 65mm in diameter. I will provide you with the math I used to figure the length of the stainless for the ring. Remember, you need to add enough extra manterial on both ends of the ring for your ring holder and overlap piece. To figure the length of the material around the ring, you first have to figure the circumference of the ring with the formula below.

Formula:
Circumference = (3.14) X (Diameter of ring) = Ring Length!!
Circumference = (3.14) X (65mm + 2.1mm + 2.1mm)
Circumference = (3.14) X (69.2mm)
Circumference = 217.288mm = Ring Length

Ring Holder Tab = 13mm X 2 = 26mm
Tab Retainer Flap = 7mm

Brief Summary of Ring Info.:
You have to have extra material for your ring holder tab on each end of the ring material as well as an extra tab retainer flap material on one end to fold over and hold the tabs in place.

So, you need to add the Length of Ring + Tab Length + Tab Length + tab retainer flap = Total Length of Required Ring Material!!

Total Length Required = (See Below!!)
Circumference + 2(Tab) + Tab Retainer Flap
217.29mm + 2(13mm) + 7mm
Total Length Required = 250.29mm


You need to request strips of stainless 250.29mm X 5mm from Daemonbart. I'll draw you a diagram to show where you fold the metal for the ring too. I'll do that for you this evening.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Diagram just for you Boguslaw!!

Slovenia

I'm using ordinary (here) beer can common in Europe.500ml can exactly like orginally described by Mr "C". There should be 2.1 mm gap between can and ring ,right ? Currently i cannot measure exact diameter of my can (I'm out of my home ) but it's standard can.
Thank You for supporting me I will do my best to check this device here with he same electrical conditions as in Serbia (230V 50hz) . I really hope it works also from inverter, and I will explain why it is important to me soon.

[boguslaw]

Boguslaw,

Give me the diameter of your can and I'll figure your ring measurements for you if you need that done. Let me know. I've gotten pretty good at that.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Slovenia

I'm using ordinary (here) beer can common in Europe.500ml can exactly like orginally described by Mr "C". There should be 2.1 mm gap between can and ring ,right ? Currently i cannot measure exact diameter of my can (I'm out of my home ) but it's standard can.
Thank You for supporting me I will do my best to check this device here with he same electrical conditions as in Serbia (230V 50hz) . I really hope it works also from inverter, and I will explain why it is important to me soon.

[Slovenia]

Thanks for the update

Hi Jason,

Nice to hear from you. Please continue tuning those cans too. We really need that information. Thanks for all that hard work and sharing your results with us.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Hello solvenia, Chet and all. Time working on the boiler has been limited for me still, I've been trying diligently to find and make a can to Mr. C specs, having trouble like everyone else finding the right length/diameter. My next route is going to be the fractal harmonic math approach like Gordon is pursuing. If I can locate a piece of stainless pipe, Im gonna attempt to turn it down on a lathe to size needed then try to tune it. Looking foreward to the IKEA flask test also. Cool stuff happening in this thread!
Regards,,, Jason

[cornfused]

my update

Hello solvenia, Chet and all. Time working on the boiler has been limited for me still, I've been trying diligently to find and make a can to Mr. C specs, having trouble like everyone else finding the right length/diameter. My next route is going to be the fractal harmonic math approach like Gordon is pursuing. If I can locate a piece of stainless pipe, Im gonna attempt to turn it down on a lathe to size needed then try to tune it. Looking foreward to the IKEA flask test also. Cool stuff happening in this thread!
Regards,,, Jason

[Slovenia]

Attachment Options

Hi Chet,

Yes, I know, I was thinking too. I can't wait to get this baby fired up. Hopefully I'll be able to get some cutting done to the tubes today.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

S
I told you I would explore attachment options for the ikea device
it is my intent to explore the "threaded" aspect of the thermos,
The Screw.....A big giant Screw with a hole tapped in the top for the threaded rod or bolt,

Shes so pretty I cant bring myself to drilling or welding onto her "YET"?

Thanks
Chet
PS
Besides it will make it easier to switch out boilers with out having to make an attachment every time you decide to try something new,as well as a control of sorts ......attachment point never varies in density [weld] or position.... consistent Continuity !
Its actually quite beautiful for us experimenters, Many praises to the man who shared this with you!

[Slovenia]

Mr. "C" Chart

Chart Mr. "C" was referring to in new diagram post

[Slovenia]

Updated Serbian Boiler Diagram

Updated Serbian Boiler Diagram

Description of Boiler:

This diagram shows a new sonic boiler construction and connection pipe through a valve that lets water into the little boiler and produces steam water. Water vapor enters the pressure radiator hose and it is better when the water is warmer in the sonic boiler because it consumes less electricity for heating if water in the tank is over 100 degrees. Refer to the chart I sent you.



Added Diagram Nov 9, 2011 @ 4:12 PM