Peter Daysh Davey Water Heater Query

[Slovenia]

Cool Ring

Hi Chet,

Looks very cool. Can't wait for your results. My rings take a lot longer than 5 minutes. You may be the ring master.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Heres one of my 5 minute rings ,
its all one piece tang and all... cut from tube stock I also cut the Tang in the stock then the ring.
I will stretch and wet test in 1mm increments

with one ring I can test many gaps by stretching in between!

Have a good night

Chet
PS
Looks like crap I really rushed this one ,They have a lights out policy at the facility I'm Working at 10 pm EDT [no noise after 10pm]
this was a 3 minute ring

[Slovenia]

Thanks!!

Nice Idea!! Yes, I understand all you have shared. Thanks!!

Maybe just a thougt -You try to fix it at the top thread. It is a bit complicated then "18 8 stainless steel vacuum flask", Because Ikea flask has one thread inside and one outside unlike Chinamade both threads outside.
So try to use this outside thread. Best with some "casting or moulding" dont know proper word.
This way also You mr.S can cover the top when you already cut the bottom if you want one side closed.
Also usable for quick removal in and out of container.

[Ares123]

Maybe just a thougt -You try to fix it at the top thread. It is a bit complicated then "18 8 stainless steel vacuum flask", Because Ikea flask has one thread inside and one outside unlike Chinamade both threads outside.
So try to use this outside thread. Best with some "casting or moulding" dont know proper word.
This way also You mr.S can cover the top when you already cut the bottom if you want one side closed.
Also usable for quick removal in and out of container.

[RAMSET]

needs lots of work still

Heres one of my 5 minute rings ,
its all one piece tang and all... cut from tube stock I also cut the Tang in the stock then the ring.
I will stretch and wet test in 1mm increments

with one ring I can test many gaps by stretching in between!

Have a good night

Chet
PS
Looks like crap I really rushed this one ,They have a lights out policy at the facility I'm Working at 10 pm EDT [no noise after 10pm]
this was a 3 minute ring

[Slovenia]

Thanks

Looks interesting.

S ,
I hope this gives you an idea of what I mean by Tall or height
This was just a play ring I finished cutting [I broke the ring during the "Tang Bend"]

You see the ring laying flat on the table ,then I have the ruler ...........
How tall/long should this ring be? [the pic is one I broke not the one I'm using]
I have one ready to cut off my Ring tube I need the length??
Do you have a spec for this??
It would be critical in my opinion {Contact surface area = current draw]

Thanks
Chet

[RAMSET]

telephones are much better

Thanks S
5MM height!!
will post a pic shortly

Chet

[RAMSET]

garbage ring

S ,
I hope this gives you an idea of what I mean by Tall or height
This was just a play ring I finished cutting [I broke the ring during the "Tang Bend"]

You see the ring laying flat on the table ,then I have the ruler ...........
How tall/long should this ring be? [the pic is one I broke not the one I'm using]
I have one ready to cut off my Ring tube I need the length??
Do you have a spec for this??
It would be critical in my opinion {Contact surface area = current draw]

Thanks
Chet

[Slovenia]

Big Gap (IKEA)

Hi Chet,

Yes, 5mm gap is very large and way to big for 110 volts in USA. I'd suggest 2.52mm gap for you since you are in USA. I'll figure this measurement out for you and post it here. I'll give you the length with extra tab and flap amount added too. You can cut the extra away if you have another way of mounting your ring.

Here is what I figured for my ring on the IKEA flask:

Formula:
Circumference = (PI) X (Diameter + Gaps on both sides)
Circumference = (3.14) X (87.4mm + 2.52mm + 2.52mm)
Circumference = (3.14) X (92.44mm) = 290.26mm
Circumference = 290.26mm = Ring Length

Ring Holder Tab = 13mm X 2 = 26mm
Tab Retainer Flap = 7mm

Circumference + 2(Tabs) + 1(Flap) = Total Length of Ring
290.26mm + 2(13mm) + (7mm) = 323.26mm

P.S.: This is for the exact diameter of the base of my IKEA boiler. Yours may be different!! If your ring is made to exact amount it will prove much more efficient!!

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Height (Width of Ring) = 5mm
Diagram for Chet's Ring Size:

5MM
Thats 10mm oversize??
BIG GAP!!

I also need the Length {not Diameter]
If I lay the ring flat on the table How Tall is it??
Thanks
Chet
PS
You'll see my ring technique soon [once you give me that number!]
PPS
Mr. ikea ........ I like it!!

[RAMSET]

Thats not the number I need
I have that already 5mm gap equals 10mm over Thermos diameter

How Tall?? Long?? The length of the ring .......
5mm ? 10MM ? 20MM?

Fishtany??

Chet
PS
I see you said to try 110 first at 2.52 [i.m at 3mm now]
But I still need to make the last cut on my Tube, do you have a length spec?[on ring]
PS
Gordon
You are Amazing !! How do you find this stuff ?? Crystal ball??
seems right on the money for Mr.C"s Hypothesis

[Slovenia]

Gap (US gap fro IKEA flask boiler)

Yes, the 5mm gap is a bit to wide for US if we are going to be using 110 volts to power this boiler. I think that we should use 2.52mm gap for USA.

5MM
Thats 10mm oversize??
BIG GAP!!

I also need the Length {not Diameter]
If I lay the ring flat on the table How Tall is it??
Thanks
Chet
PS
You'll see my ring technique soon [once you give me that number!]
PPS
Mr. ikea ........ I like it!!

[Slovenia]

IKEA Flask (Diameter)

Hi Chet,

What's the exact diameter of your IKEA flast at the bottom where the ring will go? I need that info. My measurement is all over the place on mine or I'd just use my measurements off my IKEA flask. Mine is 87.4mm at the top.

I want yours to be precise so we get the best possible readings with your boiler!!

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Can you see my technique for the ring holder??

I wait for the Height measurement ?

That tab gets bent after the final cut ,acts as the mounting flange.

Chet

[MonsieurM]

found some info on what Mr C sais previously:

Please see here: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/9480-drj200-100-home-cnf-reactor-2.html#post165776[/URL]
Full theory:
Enjoy Your time!

thanks for the links

I found the following from the above referenced link (in russian )

from: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...netism-43.html

now unto the interesting part:

If such a process was in heat "Yusmar" it with such intensity that when the volume of water in a closed cycle of the vortex heat generator 10 liters it would lead to an increase in the deuterium content in water at 10 "5% per day for each kilowatt of heat source pump with continuous his work. It is a thousand times smaller than the average concentration of deuterium in natural water. Therefore, this process could lead to a substantial increase in the deuterium content in water, and therefore can not be easily detected experimentally.
If all the "extra" mass-energy of the vortex flow was emitted only through this channel, the water from each kilowatt of radiated energy would remain in the form of heat, just 0.52 Tues We also have a heat source "Yusmar" out of "excess" heat for at least 500 watts per kilowatt invested pump. Does it mean that the carrying away energy neutrino flux from the vortex heat generator is not as intense, and the rate of use of deuterium in it for at least 2 times lower than the limit calculated above?
It would seem that it should only have to please. For if most of the "excess" energy carried away by the all-pervading neutrino flux, we could not heat the water vortex heat with an efficiency significantly greater than unity. Utility boiler for our reaction (11.5), which, although at a low speed, but, apparently, is still in it, whereas in the other - in a gradual enrichment of water with deuterium, which then participates in other nuclear reactions that take place already with the release of heat remaining in the water.
A really, experience teploustanovok "Yusmar" showed that in many years of work without replacing the water in a closed cycle of the vortex heat generator's efficiency increases with time. This can be explained and the gradual accumulation of deuterium in water in excess of its expenditure.
Finally, the foregoing, if all true, explains the mechanism of formation of deuterium in stars. In [145] explains that the observations of astronomers for protostars (just emerging stars) have shown that they consist mainly of water molecules. Formed in the star, they are like giant
eras, emit radio waves over the length of 1.35 cm (water vapor line) and 18 cm (line hydroxyls OH), and proved that the nature of water astronomers protostars.
And as the stars of the eddy processes are as strong as anywhere else, as we discussed in section 7.7, it now becomes clear that these vortices are intense reaction (11.5) with the formation and accumulation of deuterium, which then becomes the primary "fuel" star.
But in high-temperature plasma formed stars, such as the Sun, the reaction (11.5) is unlikely, if there are no molecules with hydrogen bonds. Another thing, if the sun does in colder than outside, as it involves SM Zhuravlev from Chisinau. The word "cold" here we mean not cryogenic temperatures, and temperatures below 5000 degrees Celsius, which still can be saved hydroxyls. And they are actually observed in sunspots [6.119].

Thanks to Dragans, one of our Serbian members, we have a better interpretation of the Inventor's description of how his device works.


Sonic boiler catches the energy of the impact between neutrinos

[RAMSET]

My technique

Can you see my technique for the ring holder??

I wait for the Height measurement ?

That tab gets bent after the final cut ,acts as the mounting flange.

Chet

[RAMSET]

Ouch

5MM
Thats 10mm oversize??
BIG GAP!!

I also need the Length {not Diameter]
If I lay the ring flat on the table How Tall is it??
Thanks
Chet
PS
You'll see my ring technique soon [once you give me that number!]
PPS
Mr. ikea ........ I like it!!

[Slovenia]

IKEA (Ring Gap)

Mr. IKEA said 5mm gap so I can figure that out for you for total length of ring, etc.. Mr. "C" said to stay with 2.52mm gap for USA & 2.1mm gap for Europe. He said that today.

You'll have to walk me through that pic posting technique??
We'll come to think of it ,I have a helper on this project now
I'll have him figure it out !

S
Do you have any info on the drive ring size {ikea]
I am not cutting this one until I try the new Kids [Ares123]idea
I havent gotten the "AMP" from my son yet for Tuning ,but this thermos really does ring if you tap it ,may be Ares idea will yield results ,I'll place a ring and do a wet run with 220 ?
I can always cut it!!
Thanks
Chet
PS
Ring size??