Peter Daysh Davey Water Heater Query

[MonsieurM]

sorry for the distraction, I tend to follow the wave where it takes me and i share it...will try to refocus on Slovenia's work...and mine with the copper tubes

note: the wave may seem to go in opposite direction but from personal experience, it tends to take me back to some informations that are quite relevant

ps: I do not take offense and completely understand your Point of View...time is of the essence...I know full well

[Ares123]

No offence please, you give positive references off all kinds to study. Thank You. But sometimes (when you focus on something) they are distractful.Positive for brain storming Yes but for serious job No.

Engish is not my native language so please forgive me if i cant express properly/polite. I think positive and really like your responses and links.

[MonsieurM]

Ok mr. S

MonsieurM - calm your immagination, do only one focused thing at the time and ....

Thank you Ares123, imagination has been a great tool for many of my research and findings....so no can do

but will help when i can....and thank you for joining us and I do appreciate your help...and any other help to achieve this goal

My method is different. I do not rush into actual work. When I get a new idea, I start at once building it up in my imagination, and make improvements and operate the device in my mind. When I have gone so far as to embody everything in my invention, every possible improvement I can think of, and when I see no fault anywhere, I put into concrete form the final product of my brain.
(Nikola Tesla Quote)

[Ares123]

Ok mr. S You seem like a good guy and thank you for your posts as it seems they are a bit naive.
I'am a lurker who reads this thread with intrest of outcome albeit i fear the longer threads go ,smaller is outcome as always on this OU forums.
I don't know who your contacts are but I know that I know serbian language and all texts You provide are double google translated so confusion and inaccurancy are great.
The reason I write this is that I dont want towatch struggle of a man who wants to accomplish something and we on the other side only watch and learn from you as seems every Your contact is hiding from you some information.
So I appeal to all lurkers to do something and share their findings here to help brave man who started this thread out.

1. MR.c. - from now on forget what he tells you because he wants to play with You more when he realizes that is all on public forum
Bigger can and 300HZ ring are nonsense I perfectly tuned more Europe cans to 60 hz rather than to 50 Hz as I need.
300Hz to match proper harmonics should be 480Hz ant that mistake from 1,7xxmm to 2,5 shold ring your bells

2. Ikea flask - why do you cut it in first place? If you take common china made thermos flask 1l and grasp it not punch it it will give you 50Hz peak (not resonance peak) in audicity

So if you contac says Ikea flask let him tell you how exactly is done dont let be fooled.

On picture with pipes you show(thank you) there is no thermos flask anywhere, because there is no one it is simple pipe with two insert pipes , one rings at 50 and one with 400 Hz.
And then they tell you it is not ok. If it gives COP 5 out ??? are we serious
We have no working Cop 1 to say and somebody promisse you 12 and then we discredit 5 as too low - hey

Now is time to ask Your contacts REAL questions or they should shut up, If it is possible to acomplish, we can get there anyway by ourselves
So we should join forces. I appeal on all just lurkers to add up. Nothing counts if you have sonic boiler in your basement - share with people that is the greatest thing you can do in your life. Free humanity and Earth of oil and do something for Earth and pollution and future of our children.

MonsieurM - calm your immagination, do only one focused thing at the time and ....

[MonsieurM]

HI everyone,

sorry I'm not completely up to date but I just wanted to share what ibpointless shared at the crystal battery thread.

Water, Energy, and Life: Fresh Views From the Water's Edge - YouTube

In this lecture prof Pollack presents his findings about the crystal structure of water at the SURFACE AREA which is called exclusion zone(EZ).
The lecture is awesome and a must see.
I don't know how much it matters but it could be important that the boiler points upwards like in the first prototype.
Just in case that the EZ plays a role that is.

Keep it up!!! I'm currently enrolled in plenty of other projects but maybe I'll give this one a shot I will definitely advertise among friends

CHeers,

Prato

Thanks prato_braun, a new dimension to add to Water....quite an amazing element

[prato_braun]

water crystal orientation

HI everyone,

sorry I'm not completely up to date but I just wanted to share what ibpointless shared at the crystal battery thread.

Water, Energy, and Life: Fresh Views From the Water's Edge - YouTube

In this lecture prof Pollack presents his findings about the crystal structure of water at the SURFACE AREA which is called exclusion zone(EZ).
The lecture is awesome and a must see.
I don't know how much it matters but it could be important that the boiler points upwards like in the first prototype.
Just in case that the EZ plays a role that is.

Keep it up!!! I'm currently enrolled in plenty of other projects but maybe I'll give this one a shot I will definitely advertise among friends

CHeers,

Prato

[Slovenia]

IKEA Flask (Update)

IKEA Flask (Update)

Well, cutting off the bottom of the two flasks and not making a mess of things is not as easy as I said it would be. I was using a dremel tool with cutoff wheel, but the dremel wasn't doing as good a job as I'd hoped it would and the job was becoming tedious. There are two separate bottoms on the inner tube. So, after cutting off the outside bottom with a dremel and making three more cuts with the dremel I decided to bring out the big guns. I have a steel cutting abrasive wheel saw I used to use for other cells, so I brought it out and just cut off the crazy thing. Anyway, it looks a lot more professional when you use the abrasive cutoff saw. I'll show you pics of my flask this afternoon.

I will be trying out the flask to the original specs of the flask user. If my results are not that promising, I'll then switch back to incorporating Mr. "C" specs to the IKEA flask project. So, we'll give it a go and see what happens.

[MonsieurM]

for those already ahead in discovering in their dream.....

i hope this will inspire you: replace the ring with the caduceus

The caduceus coil illustrated in Fig.1, basically consists of ordinary insulated copper wire wound in a double-helix around a ferrite core. THIS COIL HAS REPEATEDLY BEEN FOUND TO VIOLATE ESTABLISHED LAWS OF ELECTROMAGNETICS AND HERTZIAN WAVE THEORY WHEN A HIGH FREQUENCY CURRENT IS INJECTED INTO IT....
....First. This apparatus has zero impedance - unlike an ordinary coil. when fed electrical energy the wire in the Tensor coil does not get hot.

Secondly. It has infinite resonance - unlike an ordinary coil which will resonate chiefly at its natural fundamental frequency and weakly on the second or third harmonic, the Tensor coil is capable of resonating strongly on any number of frequencies randomly spaced in the spectrum. The signal pumped into such a coil strangely enough cannot be quantified (detected) by standard RF (radio frequency) detection apparatus ( see: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tic-field.html .) Many "Ham" radio operators and electronic technicians who have used these coils, are completely baffled by them

Caduceus Wound Coil Experiments

I was wondering if any of you guys have a frequency generator, a fixed core (quartz ) and a Caduceus wrapped around (the caduceus is your ring) spaced the same as the ring...you won't have to worry about tuning as it adapts to all frequencies ...I would really like to see someone try it as i don't have access to a frequency generator...

[Slovenia]

IKEA Stainless Steel Vacuum Flask (Experiment)

Disregard!!
I misunderstood my IKEA contact.

I've been brain storming on this particular IKEA flask adaptation of the Serbian boiler system, and I've come to the conclusion that several things probably have to be done to it to make it more efficient.

1) It needs to be made into one tube system instead of two. I don't see an advantage to having the double tube of the same polarity.

2) I'm pretty sure that the bottom needs to be capped. I think this is really significant.

3) I feel it needs to be tuned to either 50 hz or 60 hz depending on whether you are in US or Europe.

4) I think the ring needs to be made out of .2mm material to the specs given my Mr. "C".

5) I think the ring gap needs to be set at 2.1mm for Europe and 2.52mm for USA.

I think the device will become much more efficient if these areas are corrected. I woke up in the night with this bugging me very much. So, I think it's significant information I'm sharing here.

Happy Experimenting.

I'll be experimenting with an IKEA boiler but I'll also be making these changes.

[RAMSET]

""stay with the Mr. "C" device instead.""

Slovenia
That is what I will Do!!
Thanks
Chet
PS
Geotron
Good ideas !!

[Slovenia]

More Info

Hi Chet,

The IKEA boiler is incorporated somewhere in that system but might not be shown in the picture. As for information, my contact says that their system is not as efficient as they initially thought and don't want to give a lot of information out with regard to what they are doing because then they would be responsible for a whole lot of inefficient builds possibly. Anyway, until they get all the kinks worked out of their system they don't want to share to many details. He says at this stage that folks should stay with the Mr. "C" device instead.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

I love it S..........

More info please!!

Thanks
Chet

AC Resonance Water Heater

Hi all - What an interesting technology this is!

Question 1
In theory, couldn't the frequency of the AC electricity be tuned to match
different sizes of tube & ring arrangments?

Question Two
With 50 or 60Hz going into the reaction chamber being the resonant frequency
of a very specific distance and arrangement of the tube and ring, this spells
a very small window of parameters for getting it to work correctly. What if
position adjustment was built on to the ring or the tube or both? It seems as
though this would allow dialing in of the correct spacing proportions to match
the frequency of the electricity.

Threaded guide bolts or a waterproof sliding mechanism could possibly allow
this adjustment.

Tuning the sinewave frequency would require generation of a custom signal by
some means. The frequency drive controller with a power transistor circuit
may work, or a certain Radio-shk 741 opamp sinewave generator circuit by
Forrest Mims. Similar to his are a number of other sinewave oscillators at
this [ website ]

[Slovenia]

IKEA Flask Cutting Update

IKEA Flask Cutting Update

Well, it's not as easy as first I thought. The bottom of the flask came right off, and so I thought how easy is this? Well, not so easy. I had to expose the inside flask, and so that's why I took the bottom off the outside flask. The configuration at the bottom of the inside tank is different. The steel seems harder and there are welds there too. It became apparent to me that I had cut in the wrong place. I took a dowel rod and stuck it down the center of the flask to get a depth measurement and then compared that measurement to the outside of the flask. If you have one of these IKEA flasks, you will note that there is a line up approximately 7/8" from the bottom of the flask. You will want to cut a line completely around the flask up approximately 3/8" from the visible line up from the bottom of the flask. This should get you in perfectly to the inside tank where you want to make your cut and also get you away from any welded areas which are harder metal to cut through. I'll be cutting at this juncture first thing in the morning.

[Slovenia]

IKEA Stainless Flask (Good Selection)

IKEA Stainless Flask (Good Selection)

The walls of the tubes in this flask are very thin making this a very good selection for a boiler. It won't require that much sanding on it. It also has a nice little ring to it.

The material is very easy to cut with a dremel tool with cut-off wheels. They work great on this flask. Just turn the flask with one hand as you hold the tool against the flask with the other hand.

[Slovenia]

IKEA Stainless Steel Vacuum Flask (Cutting Bottom Out)

IKEA Stainless Steel Vacuum Flask

Taped End To Indicate Cut Line For Bottom of Flask


Uncut Bottom of Flask


Outside Bottom of Flask Removed Showing Inner Bottom of Inside Flask