Peter Daysh Davey Water Heater Query

[eternalightwithin]

Damn, I'd picked up two cans the night before last, and haven't had a chance to measure them yet. Was hoping for the motherload.
Oh well, the tea was tasty.

David P.

I picked up one of the domestic 23 oz Arizona Iced Tea cans today at Walmart. It is 72.9mm wide and Mr. "C" called for 65mm width, but I think it will work. I'll be giving it a shot by this weekend for you.

[Duncan]

I picked up one of the domestic 23 oz Arizona Iced Tea cans today at Walmart. It is 72.9mm wide and Mr. "C" called for 65mm width, but I think it will work. I'll be giving it a shot by this weekend for you.

I wait with baited breath, the passion barely constrained within my bosom!

[Slovenia]

Arizona Iced Tea Can ($.99 @ Walmart)

I picked up one of the domestic 23 oz Arizona Iced Tea cans today at Walmart. It is 72.9mm wide and Mr. "C" called for 65mm width, but I think it will work. I'll be giving it a shot by this weekend for you.

[Duncan]

[Slovenia]

Threaded Rod Ring Holder (Updated Mfg Method)

Well, there is a more exact way to cut the slot in the threaded rod than using a hacksaw. Everyone has a hacksaw, but keeping the cut straight with a hacksaw is very hard. I have a $75 industrial hacksaw and I cut my slot a little off too. Anyway, there is a much easier way to do it and it's cheaper than using an industrial hacksaw. You need a dremel tool and a 1.25" cutoff fiber wheel. You can get inexpensive Chinese dremel type tools for less than $20 and the cutoff wheels are cheap too. You can get these cheaper copies of dremel tools at Harbor Freight and they do just as good a job as the real Dremel tool. The main difference is that the real Dremel fits your hand perfectly and is much more comfortable to use. See Mfg. Method below:

Vice up you threaded rod with the part of the threaded rod to be cut sticking out from the vice approximately one inch. You'll be using the vice as a hand rest as well as for securing the threaded rod. You'll need to use both hands to stabilize and keep the tool head running straight as you guide it slowly into the end of the threaded rod. Start off at a lower speed setting to make your initial mark in the threaded rod. Once you have begun your slot on slow speed and everything is lined up nicely, you can speed up your tool. You'll be cutting on both sides of the threaded rod for ease and to make your slot look very sharp and true.

Anyway, this works very well and a Chinese copy of the Dremel is much cheaper than a good industrial hacksaw. Let me know if this works for you.

This instruction is provided for the regular guy who has no formal training in the shop.

I am self taught myself.

[Duncan]

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[RAMSET]

Pearls To The Grateful!!

Duncan
Wonderful analogy,and explanations ! Having spent some time at 27mghz {CB}
I agree... and thank you so much for taking the time to explain your thoughts.

Plus you showcased some of our friends work!! Mr. "T" {AKA the Boss [That was his "NOW" clock and goethe repost]

To cool for words ....................
Thanks
Chet

[cornfused]

stainless shim stock.

Boguslaw,
Try a place locally that sells industrial bearings for stuff like conveyors. Those places will sell shim stock used for aligning shafts to motors, etc. You can buy all sorts of thicknesses and materials. Hope this helps.
Jason

[Slovenia]

Stainless Strips (Ring Material)

Boguslaw,

Here is a link to that stainless ring material. It wasn't E-Bay after all. This strip figures out to .254mm thickness which is very close to what Mr. "C" recommended. He recommended .2mm thickness.

Stainless Steel Strip .010x1/2'' (16) (k+s7151) K-S Hobby and Craft Metal Sheets Metal Strips

Best Regards,
Slovenia

[Duncan]

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Message from Mr. "C"
Nov. 1, 2011

Calculating the coefficient of efficiency sonic boiler:
Around the heaters must be a bit of water.
First Put a kettle of cold water on the scale and measure the mass.
2.ukljuite boiler supply 5 minutes Merit electricity and intensity that goes into the boiler.
Third Measure the mass of the boiler after 5 minutes of heating.
Account for COP sonic boiler
dT = T1 - T2 temperature
dM = m1 - m2 mass
Eav = (dT x Mv x 4.186) / 300 Absorbed energy in water
EIf = 2260J x dM Energy fumes
Ei = I x V input power from the mains
Es = Eif + Eav +100 wat
COP = Es / Ei
Note 100 watts is the heat capacity of the vessel heaters and emission of energy from the boiler

[Slovenia]

E-Bay

Hi Boguslaw,

They sell the stainless and titanium strips on E-Bay in small amounts and the price is not so high. One place has 16 stainless strips 1 ft. each for only $9.35. It's the right thickness and wide enough to get two rings out of each single strip. We have the same problem in US, manufactures want to sell a whole sheet of material for high dollars. Many of the sellers on E-Bay will ship to Europe too. If you want my link to the stainless strips on E-Bay, let me know and I'll send it to you.

Thanks for sharing your pictures on photobucket. It's nice to see someone else's experiment too. I normally just use basic hand tools too. I have some of the other tools but if I can do the job with basic hand tools I do it that way because I don't have the setup time, etc..

Thanks for sharing with us!!

P.S.: I gave an instruction in the first part of this thread on how to radius a ring strip with just basic hand tools. You'll need two vice grips. If you can't find that instruction, let me know and I will send it to you.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Now, the ring problem.I tried with some strip of SS 4mm width but it was too thick (over 1mm) and do not bend nice in hands (I have only hand tools). I need to make ring like Slovenia did to put into slot cut in SS threaded rod.
The problem I found is there is plenty of shops selling SS material but mostly ready elements and SS threaded rods. No sheet, or in fact there were some places I was able to get it , but too expensive because I have to buy a large sheet (they do not cut it).
How did you resolved that problem ?

Boguslaw

[RAMSET]

Moms been lookin for her Pot!!

boguslaw
OH Boy, wait till Mom sees what you Did to her pot!!



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boguslaw
Quote:
How did you resolved that problem ?

Talk to the man that sells the full sheets [be very Nice]
ask him if there is a local customer of his ,and where ,tell him you just need a small piece to try for a project ,so you can get the right one And then you will probably be buying much more.
If he is any kind of business man he will give you a free sample ,or send you to one of his customers.
that is exactly how I get Odd materials..........

Thank you so much for building and sharing ,Slovenia offered me one of his Custom made rings
I will pay the freight to Poland if "S" will put it in the envolope?
[My Family is From Poland {not that it matters here]]

Thanks
Chet

[boguslaw]

Daemonbart,

Are you in Europe ? I'm from Poland.

[boguslaw]

Here is what I used as electrical insulation http://sklep.monster.pl/Img.ashx?Id=18524

[boguslaw]

Here is my experimental setup. Sonic boiler pictures by boguslawb - Photobucket

I will post more pictures soon, now the problem is with ring.Electrical insulation is resolved using kind of insulation plastic element used to pass electrical cables into switchgear. I don't know if it stand intact in boiling water but for testing it should be enough.

Now, the ring problem.I tried with some strip of SS 4mm width but it was too thick (over 1mm) and do not bend nice in hands (I have only hand tools). I need to make ring like Slovenia did to put into slot cut in SS threaded rod.
The problem I found is there is plenty of shops selling SS material but mostly ready elements and SS threaded rods. No sheet, or in fact there were some places I was able to get it , but too expensive because I have to buy a large sheet (they do not cut it).
How did you resolved that problem ?

Boguslaw