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  • RAMSET
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    The plot thickens...............

    @All
    The 1 liter test brought up something unusual


    Displacement 1 liter
    Time 1 min
    Total power 10 watts
    Temp rise 7.4 degrees

    Notes : Due to proximity of heat element to container sides sample was AGGRESSIVELY agitated for the entire test.

    5 liter test was GENTLY stirred,

    This needs to be explored much more for obvious reasons!!

    Much more testing tonight!

    Chet

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  • MonsieurM
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    to avoid any future download of the link...i took the liberty of deleting it....

    @AhuraMazda , my bad....nice choice of words

    thanks Slovenia

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  • Slovenia
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    Brain Thing

    Please watch comments such as the brain thing. It's definitely not a statement that would be taken positively by anyone here.

    Originally posted by AhuraMazda View Post
    That program was some kind of virus.
    Use your brain, can the USB port provide enough power to do anything useful?

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  • RAMSET
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    80 watts to raise 5 liters 13.5C /10 min

    Had to use a bigger pail than one liter, used a 5 liter pail .
    ran the resistance heater for ten minutes [constant stirring] starting temp was 16c, killowatt meter registered .08 watts, finish temp 29.5C

    Benchmark for resistance type heat! NOTE: Not the Professors device !! A typical resistance immersion heater !![status Quo]
    displacement: 5 liters
    Time : 10 minutes
    Total power: 80 watts
    Temp rise : 13.5C

    Tomorrow I will play with the container size to get it to 1 liter,[I want to see it go linear [for scale-ability and as a "Control"] ]I will test any size/time you want for your particular rig..............




    Chet
    PS
    I believe this to be an excellent format for this Testing?
    suggestions welcome we want to do this right!!
    If this device works as advertised this will become very obvious and the testing should not have to be flawless??
    PPS
    I'm also building the device !!
    Last edited by RAMSET; 11-04-2011, 02:08 AM.

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  • AhuraMazda
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    Originally posted by MonsieurM
    I found this little vid that shows with a program how to find the correct resonance for water ...have not tried it...you let me know

    Resonant Water Found !! Unlimit HHO !!! Brown's gas 40 LPM - YouTube



    ps: be careful
    That program was some kind of virus.
    Use your brain, can the USB port provide enough power to do anything useful?

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  • MonsieurM
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    Originally posted by daemonbart View Post
    Well I see four golden spirals when device is running..

    My spinning starts in the water without the device in the water

    If I stop it, water starts spinning again all by itself

    Strange dream??

    Kind rgds D
    something you should know, you are made of 70% water and you are enhancing the water in the heater which enhances you as well...If you read the thread i mentioned earlier; you'd learn that water has memory




    roll with it (your dream that is )

    ps: in the previous link, if your AV says it is dangerous, don't use it and ignore that post

    learn about 6 3 9 , and you'll understand
    Last edited by MonsieurM; 11-03-2011, 10:21 PM.

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  • Duncan
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    Originally posted by MonsieurM
    I found this little vid that shows with a program how to find the correct resonance for water ...have not tried it...you let me know

    Resonant Water Found !! Unlimit HHO !!! Brown's gas 40 LPM - YouTube



    ps: be careful
    My AV doesnt like this prog !!! be alert

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  • daemonbart
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    Anticlockwise spinning!

    Well I see four golden spirals when device is running..

    My spinning starts in the water without the device in the water

    If I stop it, water starts spinning again all by itself

    Strange dream??

    Kind rgds D

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  • Duncan
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    Originally posted by boguslaw View Post
    Duncan

    Mr "C" mentioned can being an antenna. I feel that every 1/4 antenna has to be properly grounded while inverter output is floating voltage. That's why I have some doubts about implementing inverter as a testing tool to check is this device is consuming reactive power. But I'm not EE.

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  • boguslaw
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    Duncan

    Mr "C" mentioned can being an antenna. I feel that every 1/4 antenna has to be properly grounded while inverter output is floating voltage. That's why I have some doubts about implementing inverter as a testing tool to check is this device is consuming reactive power. But I'm not EE.

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  • MonsieurM
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    Originally posted by daemonbart View Post
    Hi!

    I had a dream last night that after shutting of device and lifted it up from water, water started to rotate in bucket..

    This gave me a creepy feeling in my dream so i waked up

    By the way I remember from dream it rotated anti clockwise??

    Would this be possible in real?? Anyone??

    Kind rgds D

    Watch the vid:


    Using magnetic vortex as eddy heater. - YouTube

    The idea behind this was that if we have a stationary magnet but a moving field we should be able to use it. In this video I use a small aluminum bowl filled with about a cup of water and a tablespoon of baking soda. In the middle is a ring magnet that is not touching the bowl but seperated with a plastic spacer. I attach a signal generator with the leads to the bowl and one on the magnet. The yellow wire going through the black holder is a temprature probe. In the beginning of the video I try different frequencies before finding the sweet spot of 276hz sine wave although 5-8hz seems good also. The loaded readings is 40VAC, current drawn is 3.5amps and the water starts to spin counter clockwise. As you can see the temprature will start to rise it won't win any awards for high speed heating or efficiency but the principle is working. The spinning magnetic field is causing eddy currents in the aluminum which causes heating.
    Last edited by MonsieurM; 11-03-2011, 08:34 PM.

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  • Duncan
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    even the spoons seem to show spin ... resistance heating at least you'll end up with a nice straight line graph,very different from this! Specific Heat
    Last edited by Duncan; 11-03-2011, 08:33 PM.

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  • RAMSET
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    absolutely!!

    Daemonbart
    Quote:

    Would this be possible in real?? Anyone??

    --------------------
    You have seen the Wave??
    I believe Core ,Or some one on The Davey thread posted that they could rotate the water with a current present,may even have done a video??

    Its the Heat that is the Best !!{well so far anyway]
    I will be doing a test here this evening with some of our future engineers
    we will be bringing 1 liter of water up in Temp with a resistance heater.

    Taking notes on start Temp, Power used ,finish temp and Time....
    And posting results .

    just for a baseline.
    Thanks
    Chet

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  • Duncan
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    Originally posted by boguslaw View Post
    Duncan,


    What if I ground one output terminal of DC to AC inverter ? Would that be the same as neutral in grid ? I mean real grounding to Earth soil via metal

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  • daemonbart
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    Water rotation?

    Hi!

    I had a dream last night that after shutting of device and lifted it up from water, water started to rotate in bucket..

    This gave me a creepy feeling in my dream so i waked up

    By the way I remember from dream it rotated anti clockwise??

    Would this be possible in real?? Anyone??

    Kind rgds D

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