Peter Daysh Davey Water Heater Query

[MonsieurM]

just for your information stainless steel is used also for normal water heater


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[Slovenia]

Stainless

Hi Daemnbart,

Yes, this is a great device. I'm glad you are seeing success with it.

Can you take a digital photo of your device for us to see also? Many of us would like to see what you have. Anyway, if you have a digital camera, please take a photo of inside components and outside of the device you have for us to view. Thanks!!! Thanks for sharing with us.

Also, what polarity is your can, power or neutral?

Best Regards,
Slovenia

[daemonbart]

Hi Daemonbart,

What type of stainless steel are you using that is being corroded by your process?

Best Regards,
Slovenia

[Slovenia]

Stainless Query??

Hi Daemonbart,

What type of stainless steel are you using that is being corroded by your process?

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Sirs and Ladies(??)

Well no hho with ac but still something eating the cans

In pulsing dc mode huge amount of hho, dont know about cans in dc, I have only running dc with all parts in stainless.

I have good result with all in stainless (also container), but I seem to loose a bit of tuning benefits and cop. Still cop is really ok.

I can tell some interesting things happen with pulsed dc more of that later

I dont think we should abandon Professors exact setup in any way, I jumped some big steps to heat our house simply because family where freezing.

For now cop around 4-5 is wonderful and we can afford it

Kind rgds from your friend D

[MonsieurM]

Message from Mr. "C"

Oct. 30, 2011
I want to help you practically and theoretically to make a Sonic Boiler and give cheaper warming.

Energy is free and is everywhere around us, only to catch the resonances to 1/4 wavelength to Taslima said ..
Sonic catches boiler scalar wave as an antenna, resonances to 1/4 wavelength and you use 3/4 height of a standing wave.
Scalar wave of light is faster than 1.54 times said Tesla and academician Professor Konstan Mail from Germania ..

Diameter of cans is 1/4 wavelength waves that capture resonances.
What is the diameter of the smaller cans to catch the wave has a higher frequency and more power within himself.
Tin cans of beer must be thin and long that can easily dojete 60 Hr audio frequencies. Cans of beer you have slimmed down to 60 Hz frequency sound.

COHERENCE AT ANY LEVEL IS COHERENCE AT ALL LEVELS.
An orderly arrangement between wave lengths establishes a connection between frequencies and fields. But for this connection to last, it must resonate to all frequencies and fields. This can only be accomplished through the resonate structure of golden mean pathways. a harmonic cascade effect

[Slovenia]

Message from Mr. "C"

Message from Mr. "C"

Oct. 30, 2011
I want to help you practically and theoretically to make a Sonic Boiler and give cheaper warming.

Energy is free and is everywhere around us, only to catch the resonances to 1/4 wavelength to Taslima said ..
Sonic catches boiler scalar wave as an antenna, resonances to 1/4 wavelength and you use 3/4 height of a standing wave.
Scalar wave of light is faster than 1.54 times said Tesla and academician Professor Konstan Mail from Germania ..

Diameter of cans is 1/4 wavelength waves that capture resonances.
What is the diameter of the smaller cans to catch the wave has a higher frequency and more power within himself.
Tin cans of beer must be thin and long that can easily dojete 60 Hr audio frequencies. Cans of beer you have slimmed down to 60 Hz frequency sound.

[Slovenia]

Thanks!!

Hi Daemonbart,

We'd like to hear about everything you have done and seen regarding your replications. Yes, the inventor did say that much hydrogen could be made when DC was applied. Degradation, electrolysis, of metals was not discussed as a problem with AC applications. Anyway, we'd like to hear about everything you are willing to share. We'd like to see pics of your setup too.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Sirs and Ladies(??)

Well no hho with ac but still something eating the cans

In pulsing dc mode huge amount of hho, dont know about cans in dc, I have only running dc with all parts in stainless.

I have good result with all in stainless (also container), but I seem to loose a bit of tuning benefits and cop. Still cop is really ok.

I can tell some interesting things happen with pulsed dc more of that later

I dont think we should abandon Professors exact setup in any way, I jumped some big steps to heat our house simply because family where freezing.

For now cop around 4-5 is wonderful and we can afford it

Kind rgds from your friend D

[daemonbart]

Hho

Sirs and Ladies(??)

Well no hho with ac but still something eating the cans

In pulsing dc mode huge amount of hho, dont know about cans in dc, I have only running dc with all parts in stainless.

I have good result with all in stainless (also container), but I seem to loose a bit of tuning benefits and cop. Still cop is really ok.

I can tell some interesting things happen with pulsed dc more of that later

I dont think we should abandon Professors exact setup in any way, I jumped some big steps to heat our house simply because family where freezing.

For now cop around 4-5 is wonderful and we can afford it

Kind rgds from your friend D

Sir
It occured to me whilst I was Pittying poor Slovenia for having to do a Job all over from Scratch [his power steering job].

That we as a group could be heading down the same road??
Can you please share more about your "Can Dissapearing"?? was this during some DC trials or????????

The Professor has not mentioned {to my Knowledge] an issue with Electrolysis! Having stated this device has run without issue for some years?? [I believe that is what he said].

Please??
Thank you
Chet

[Slovenia]

Nice!!

Hi Chet,

Sorry to hear you are snowed in. Glad to hear you may be able to get a good can there!! I'll be working on a new titanium ring tomorrow and document the whole process with my digital camera for other's reference.

Yes, this thread is gaining interest. Very nice indeed.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

S,
I believe I can get that size can here ,I have seen Those ?
I will check when I can get out ,to much snow and the trees still had there leaves ,worse outages than we had with the Hurricane!!

Thanks
Chet

[RAMSET]

Nor Easter Socs Me in.........

No power,Except the wire running to the Winnabago!

Any Hoo ,...Duncan for an idea I proposed taking a slice of the can and an equal size Drive ring and seeing what it does? [Sort of like your capacitor].

Just so we have an idea as to what the can adds to the equation?

If I get my power back on I will have some time to play tommorow,
As Gordon says Its a musical instrument so we should be able to Tune things?

S,
I believe I can get that size can here ,I have seen Those ?
I will check when I can get out ,to much snow and the trees still had there leaves ,worse outages than we had with the Hurricane!!

Good to see More fellows joining in Here,Lets figure this out........
Open Source Of Course!!

Thanks
Chet

[Slovenia]

Ring (New USA Specs)

I'll be making a new ring tomorrow out of titanium and I'll be taking pics of the whole process to share with all of you. I'll show you the easy way to make one of these rings. With the fold over tab I'll show you, you'll see you don't have to solder or glue anything. The device holds itself together very well!!

[Slovenia]

New Gap (for USA Boiler)

Important Update!!!

New Gap (for USA Boiler)

2.52mm Gap

REQUIRED Length of Ring Material = 252.23mm

NEW USA Ring ID: 70.04mm


Recommended Specs:
Thickness of Ring Material: .2mm
Width of Ring Material: 5mm


FIND REQUIRED MATHMATICS FOR FIGURING LENGTH BELOW:

To figure the diameter of your ring and how much material you will need, you'll need to know the OD of your can. Since we're working with cans with slightly different diameters, this is VERY Important!! You need to know the diameter of your can and plug all this info into the following formula:

Diameter of Ring = Diameter of Can + 2(Gap)

70.04mm = 65mm + 2(2.52mm)

This needs to be exact!! So, if your can diameter is not 65mm, you need to plug your values into the above equation and figure out what your ring diameter is!!!

You also need to figure out the circumference of your ring so that you'll know how much material you'll need. Remember, the ring thickness should be .2mm and the width should be 5mm. You also need to know the length and that is the circumference. Remember to add enough extra material for your tab so that you can stick the tab of the ring into the ring holder.

Suggestion:
Allow at least 1/2" of extra material on each end of the ring material. I'd also allow at least an extra 1/4" on one end as a flap to be folded over the end of the tab to hold it in place. I'll take some pics of this when I make my new ring tomorrow. I'll post those pics as soon as possible.

Circumference = (Pie)3.14 X ring diameter
219.93mm = 3.14 X 70.04mm
Circumference = 219.93mm

Remember to add 1/2" on both ends of the ring material plus 1/4" for fold over tab. So, do the following to get the amount of ring material you'll actually need:
Circumference + (tab material for both ends) + (fold over tab material) = ??
Circumference (Length of ring material) + 2(12.9mm) + (6.5mm) = ??
219.93 + 2(12.9mm) + (6.5mm) = 252.23mm = New Ring Material Length!!

[Slovenia]

Ring Thickness??

Hi David,

Mr. "C" called for the following measurements on his ring:

Negative Ring Electrode
Ring Width: 5mm
Ring Thickness: .2mm

Ring Inside Diameter:
US 68.45mm (Old Spec. for 1.725mm gap) (I need to figure it for new gap.)
European 69.2mm (With Regard to 2.1mm gap)

P.S.: The McMaster Carr titanium is to thick @ .5mm

I have a cheap source for .1mm. That's the thickness I used on my test boiler and it worked splendidly. Let me know if you want the info and I'll send it to you.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Also,

Slovenia, does the ring material have to be 0.010" thick material?
Can it be 0.020" ?

That stainless steel strip hobbystore link you gave us is great. But if I want to use titanium, McMaster-Carr only goes down to 0.020" thick.

David

[Duncan]

Doctor X Water Dissociationanyway I would much rather a system that was Tunable and so usable in the US or Europe or in fact anywhere and so Here is what I have in mind when I get my hands on a bit of nylon Threaded bar.
Can we agree The effect we are looking for is probably caused by careful capacitive tuning ? That being the case let me remind you of the bee hive trimmer Redirect Notice

Really as you can see just a variable capacitor you simply screw the top down onto the bottom to tune to whatever capacitance is required. We want a custom one and so I propose The next bit of the operation would be to get any two tins that are any where in the approxamate size of our diameters such that one will slide inside the other. Connect the two tins with plastic or nylon Threaded rod, capacitance area something like that shown in the PDF . Only for the brave hearted but I think It would be possible to tune a working submerged unit to minimum current at a specific water temperature (perhaps) just an idea to consider, big bang if they touch of course MIT Physics Demo -- Dissectible Capacitor - YouTube

[eternalightwithin]

Also,

Slovenia, does the ring material have to be 0.010" thick material?
Can it be 0.020" ?

That stainless steel strip hobbystore link you gave us is great. But if I want to use titanium, McMaster-Carr only goes down to 0.020" thick.

David