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I do get an Ac reading out of my 1 1/2 year old cement cells, pictured below, that are in a bank of 4 cells, giving 8volts Ac., and 4 volts Dc. with no load on them. As these cells are very dry now they only output 300uA. (originally 50mA each cell), but if I let them soak in water overnight current levels go back up. They have been running an oscillator but can also light leds direct. These are the lowest maintanance cells that I've made.
Recent cells only put out about 1.0 volts Ac, and 0. 8 v Dc. from EACH carbon/Al cell, but up to 60mA, when new.
This is a correction and edit to this same post which I placed yesterday.
The fact that a cell(s) can light an led with only 200uAs is something to look into.
My analog meter will usually show an AC reading that is twice what the DC reading is on the same battery. But, it will not show anything on the AC setting if the polarity is reversed.Last edited by NickZ; 04-29-2012, 11:22 PM.
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hey nick, let us know how this experiment works, make sure you test for AC power, cheers...Originally posted by NickZ View Postb_rads:
Thanks for the info about your 12 cent AA batteries lasting over a week.
I'm still working with the same type of circuit, and am quite pleased with it.
I wonder what your circuit would do with more leds drawing on the battery.
I'll try to add some copper oxide to the electrolyte mix in my next cells to see what effect if any that might have as a depolarizer, as well as some aluminum fillings.
I've also been using a new AA to see how it does with Slayer Exciter circuit that I'm working on now. Once I get an idea of the draw, I'll switch over to using these cells instead. That's the plan any way.
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Hello everyone, i made this new video on the bismuth-galena cell, still putting off 9VAC, but now the MA dropped to near 200uA.... at this point no cell could light up any LED no matter how many cells are put together.... this one however keeps the white LED bright, i did the video last night, and this morning the LED was still on, but a little dimmer... when i measured it it read 50uA... interesting stuff
AC crystal cell powering bright LED below 200uA - YouTube
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b_rads:
Thanks for the info about your 12 cent AA batteries lasting over a week.
I'm still working with the same type of circuit, and am quite pleased with it.
I wonder what your circuit would do with more leds drawing on the battery.
I'll try to add some copper oxide to the electrolyte mix in my next cells to see what effect if any that might have as a depolarizer, as well as some aluminum fillings.
I've also been using a new AA to see how it does with Slayer Exciter circuit that I'm working on now. Once I get an idea of the draw, I'll switch over to using these cells instead. That's the plan any way.Last edited by NickZ; 04-27-2012, 07:30 PM.
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I did measure using an Oscilloscope before (many pages before) and mention that same thing. They do have a hash on top of the voltage line.Originally posted by cgalvisardila View Postyes i did!! i tried it with some of my old batteries and no AC is shown, but i suspect you may be right because on the digital meters there's no read.... i believe it might be another form of current that's being interpreted as AC, like radiant or magnetic flux, it only seems to show on the presence of galena... maybe an oscilloscope would tell the truth, too bad i don't have one, that will be next on the list...
Fausto.
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yes i did!! i tried it with some of my old batteries and no AC is shown, but i suspect you may be right because on the digital meters there's no read.... i believe it might be another form of current that's being interpreted as AC, like radiant or magnetic flux, it only seems to show on the presence of galena... maybe an oscilloscope would tell the truth, too bad i don't have one, that will be next on the list...Originally posted by ionfuture View PostIt could be your analog meter is taking a DC value and converting it (rms = root mean square) to an AC value. Have you tried testing that meter on a standard battery and set to read AC? This could explain why no AC shows up on you digital meter.
Regards
RandyLast edited by cgalvisardila; 04-27-2012, 05:18 PM.
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Suggest Reading this book!
@NickZ;Originally posted by NickZ View PostBrOn and All:
This is an even more recent update from Magnetman, with some diagrams for the Joule Thief circuits, as well as some further tests and results from the Plengo type of cells.
Battery & Joule Thief Update.MOV - YouTube
I have this circuit running on its 7th day of running continuous from a cheap dollar store AA battery. Those batteries come eight to a pack for $1, so 12.5 cents apiece. The battery started at 1.54V and is currently sitting at 1.49V. So it has dropped 0.05V in 7 days. I will keep it connected to observe how long it will last, so far I am very impressed with this circuit.
@ all;
Here is a link to a book written over 120 years ago that I consider a must read.
http://survival-training.info/Librar...%20Carhart.pdf
This book describes many of the things we have observed in some of the cells we have built, such as depolarizers, temperature, light, electrode protection, etc,.
For example:
And yet one more example:
I personally have made a few of the cells/batteries described in this book and plan to make many more. Many of these are very easy to construct and actually watching them perform has opened my eyes to what might actually be happening. Again, I highly recommend you download and read this book. Many of the things we are doing today have already been done over 120 years ago.
Happy Experimenting!
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It could be your analog meter is taking a DC value and converting it (rms = root mean square) to an AC value. Have you tried testing that meter on a standard battery and set to read AC? This could explain why no AC shows up on you digital meter.Originally posted by cgalvisardila View PostHello all, i found something interesting yesterday, i used fausto's mix (CO+sand) and added galena and bismuth in two cells, and all of the above plus copper and aluminum dust in another cell, this i did thinking about the orgone energy principle... all i can say is:
ACV crystal cell - YouTube
Regards
Randy
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cgalvisardila , thank you for the vid ... and may i say very interesting resultsOriginally posted by cgalvisardila View PostThought you might like to see this picture.... this happened last week. the clock is ticking, the flares just keep getting bigger and bigger, soon we might lose the grid for a while... cheers
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i saw that one a while time ago, hutchinson has been working on crystal cells for a loooong time, I had forgot all about the Ac potential... i remember that they use galena and silver as part of the electrolyte, any ideas for an AC circuit for this battery?Originally posted by Allwest View PostHere is a video I had not seen before, they also have AC power
open source
How to build a Hutchison Power Cell !!!! - YouTube
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Here is a video I had not seen before, they also have AC power
open source
How to build a Hutchison Power Cell !!!! - YouTube
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Crystal weirdness
Hello all, i found something interesting yesterday, i used fausto's mix (CO+sand) and added galena and bismuth in two cells, and all of the above plus copper and aluminum dust in another cell, this i did thinking about the orgone energy principle... all i can say is:
ACV crystal cell - YouTube
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