Bedini Ferris Wheel Regauging Motor

[Web000x]

I decided to retard the timing of my wheel like John Bedini said to get better charging. It indeed does show signs of better charging. I am able to charge up my capacitors at the same rate that I had when I was running at 12V@600 mA. Now my input power is only 12V@300mA and my wheel is moving slower than it was before.

It is interesting to play with the timing of the hall to watch the various ways that the magnetic fields interact while charging up the caps at different speeds and different power inputs.

Anyway, here is an updated video of my setup. Sorry about the quality and that awful noise when I show my scope shot. I'm using my camera phone and it's a POS.

This video just shows my setup for comparison.

YouTube - Bedini Ferris Wheel Update 2

I still haven't decided what to do with my mag amp control wires. They are still hanging loose. I have tried using an outside source and holding them at a magnetic opposition as well as with the flow of the electromagnet. I have tried pulsing them off of the bipolar circuit in magnetic opposition with a potentiometer to vary the bias. I have not seen anything that suggests that I am doing something right.

Does anybody have any good ideas on how to bias the coil with the mag amp windings? I'm all out for the moment.

Dave

[mklimesh]

Nice, waiting for my rockhound friend to bring me over some
pyrite.
Mike Klimesh

Here it is... It runs on Iron Pyrite-Magnesium, and Mediterranean sea salt...
Sorry so far off topic of Johns big wheel.

YouTube - 16 pole 3 coil running on Iron Pyrite Magnesium Sea Salt

[minoly]

CaCl2

we put up our vid last night using a magnesium fire starter (a la LM) and copper coil - toward the end of the vid we add the calcium chloride (direct from the lab at the university so it's pure):
YouTube - min2oly's Channel

we took our live cam down because it stopped running. we were using copper, paper towel, and pure CaCl2. when the WM slowed, we added water, that did not get it going for long, so we added more CaCl2, that did not get it going for long either.
we assumed it was the copper - so we went out and purchased some fools gold, scrubbed down the magnesium and started over. same result only it did not last as long - 24 plus hours. so now we're thinking it's the magnesium firestarter block we are using so we switch to magnesium ribbon. we can't get enough amps to spin our heavy rotor any more.
ok last ditch effort - out to the garage find a bag of drizair, plop a crystal under the rock, switch back to magnesium block, and viola... the rest as they say is history. oh, we switched the paper towel to a bleach white coffee filter. the paper towels we have were breaking down.
it's only been 36 hours but we are running strong. there is something else in the drizair dehumidifying crystals that is making this work. our quick search last night came up w/

Component Percentage CAS Number
Calcium chloride >90.0 - < 92.0 10043-52-4
Potassium chloride > 2.0 - < 3.0 7447-40-7
Water > 4.0 - < 6.0 7732-18-5
Sodium chloride > 1.0 - < 2.0 7647-14-5
Calcium bromide (CaBr2) <1 7789-41-5

keep in mind, our WM rotor is much heavier, and running on regular bearings not pin point space age friction free bearings. I think we'll try the copper out again - but it's not as cool as the fools gold when your friends come over

[chuck H]

16 pole running on the rock

Here it is... It runs on Iron Pyrite-Magnesium, and Mediterranean sea salt...
Sorry so far off topic of Johns big wheel.

YouTube - 16 pole 3 coil running on Iron Pyrite Magnesium Sea Salt

[John_K]

Awesome

Hi Chuck,

That's pretty cool. Great work!

I gotta get some magnesium then I'll be able to play with you guys.

Can't wait to catch up in July.


John K.

@ John Bedini and all! 16 pole runs on Zinc-Magnesium-Med sea salt. I'm sure I can make it run On Iron Pyrite-Magnesium-? This is awsome! will post video as soon as it up loads! This is same test from yesterday. I never changed the test battery or its contents out Looks to be running on about 10 MA or less @ .5 volts!

Here is video!

YouTube - 16 pole on zinc magnesium sea salt. battery

[chuck H]

16 pole runs on zinc-magnesium- Mediterranean sea salt!

@ John Bedini and all! 16 pole runs on Zinc-Magnesium-Med sea salt. I'm sure I can make it run On Iron Pyrite-Magnesium-? This is awsome! will post video as soon as it up loads! This is same test from yesterday. I never changed the test battery or its contents out Looks to be running on about 10 MA or less @ .5 volts!

Here is video!

YouTube - 16 pole on zinc magnesium sea salt. battery

[iankoglin]

Yes yes yes.
John B

G'Day Mr John Bedini
I am waiting for the electronic parts for my S1GT build and am following all the posts.
Please are these the Sidac's here

http://www.littelfuse.com/data/en/Data_Sheets/E9Sidac.pdf

Kindest Regards Kogs

[chuck H]

Zinc-Magnesium-Mediterranean sea salt on 6 pole

Hi everyone, I thought I would post some results on Zinc-Magnesium-Mediterranean sea salt on 6 pole. It works. I only made about .5 volts but the 6 pole runs on it. Got the idea from lidmoters Zinc experment. Thanks everyone and John B. for all the things to do this with... here is a short video.

YouTube - 16 pole 3 coiler

On a second note the 16 pole with 3 coils is running with a charging system (1 of John B. circuits). I Have a scope shot with the Nano scope just got running and have to tidy it up and get some good scope shots though. Here is another short video of that.

YouTube - 100 1083

[Web000x]

Hi Dave,

Thanks for posting your video. Have you tried adjusting the slave coils so that the repel the rotor magnet in the opposite direction to the main coil?

You could also try and increase the gap between the rotor and the coils, if you have any room to move.

Your waveform looks a bit odd. Are you scoping on both of the collectors of the NPN and PNP?


John K.

Hey John,

No, I have not adjusted my slave coils to work against the main coil yet. I read a post a while back about how John Bedini said that the positions of the coils should be and I have set up to be very close to that. I will shave off some wood and move them around.

Unfortunately, I have no more room to adjust the coil away from the magnet. I would have to move the wheel up and might end up making that happen.

I have my scope ground connected to the collector of the NPN and my probe lead connected to the collector of the PNP. Both switches in my circuit show the exact same waveform.

I was going to post another video with some other tidbits of information in it but my video recorder on my phone stopped working right. I'll try again after I get off of work today or tomorrow.

About to be late for work.

Thanks,

Dave

[John_K]

Hey John K & B,

I figured that I would post a video of my setup as it is out of control on the speed, but I do seem to get the best charging right now as far as watching the caps goes.

Here is my video: YouTube - GT3 Replication


Dave

Hi Dave,

Thanks for posting your video. Have you tried adjusting the slave coils so that the repel the rotor magnet in the opposite direction to the main coil?

You could also try and increase the gap between the rotor and the coils, if you have any room to move.

Your waveform looks a bit odd. Are you scoping on both of the collectors of the NPN and PNP?


John K.

[Web000x]

Waveform comparison

Hey John K & B,

I figured that I would post a video of my setup as it is out of control on the speed, but I do seem to get the best charging right now as far as watching the caps goes.

Here is my video: YouTube - GT3 Replication


Dave

[mklimesh]

Hi Chuck,
Looking good, Thanks for posting it.

Mike Klimesh

YouTube - 16pole mono pole single coil 1.5 volt reed LED.wmv
YouTube - 16 pole on 3 coils no iron in coils 1.5 volt reed switch.wmv

[John_Bedini]

Bedini GT3

John K,
That is very good it think just a little more tuning and your going to be spot on. Great video. Yes, and Rick is going to have another conference in July

John B

[Ron Chase]

Thanks John,

I'd very much like to talk when you have time. I emailed my shipping address and contact info to John_Bedini at this forum. Let me know when you ship so I can be on the lookout for the samples.

Best Regards, Ron

[John_K]

Bedini S1GT

Hi John B,

Here's a video with a scope shot. The wheel is running at ~16RPM and charging really nicely.

YouTube - Bedini S1GT Scope Shot

These gel-cells are real junk though, I think they have dried out because I tried to take a load off them but after a couple of minutes they dropped like a stone to 8V. I've put some better 55Ah gel-cells on the output and I can now run on a 36V primary without the SCR latching on.

Fun and games

Let me know what you think of the scope shot. Can you post a scope shot of your 3GT so I can compare?


John K.

John K ,
That is good running move the read to retard the timing make it run slow, no more then 20 RPM's. If you retard the timing the charging will increase that is what you want. Can you catch the wave form on a scope. Your correct it is self regulating, current is expected to go down as the battery reaches the end of the charging curve. See if you can take 25 % off the top of those batteries three 2 amp 12 volt lights in series if possible.
John B