Bedini Ferris Wheel Regauging Motor

[John_K]

Bedini S1GT

Hi All,

I posted a video on my S1GT setup. I wanted to show in this video where I think the timing should be and the cap dump working.

It is also using a crude reed switch setup to fire the circuit (waiting on ATS137 halls to arrive), where the rotor magnet closes the reed. It's actually firing at 23 degrees if you look at it, as the coil fires at about 0.5 degrees past the core piece - or 23 degrees from the reed switch.

The rotor is cruising at a nice 16RPM. In the time it took to upload the video (about 1.5 hours), the primary has dropped from 12.64v resting to 12.37v running and the charging batteries have gone from 38.55v resting to 40.3v running and jumping up to 42.3v when the cap dumps.

YouTube - Bedini S1GT Reed Switch Timing

Have a great weekend!


John K.

[kcarring]

Sorry off subject of Joules for a moment....

John K,
Some very Interesting things have happened to the rock battery, Transmutation has taken place with the magnesium, the magnesium will no longer burn, as it is not magnesium it looks like it.

The funny thing I think it's now silver as it seem to reacts the same way. What ever was in the Pyrite has now changed the magnesium, it's a soft material like gold or silver not lead. The rock is no longer Pyrite either, the Pyrite has a silver luster to it and no longer works as Iron pyrite.

Tom Bearden has said this before and I have done the experiments on minerals to prove that. It's that little spike that science refuses to look at. I have seen this happen in batteries when they had clear cases you could see the plates change and watch the plating take place. Hell your whole nervous system works on that little spike before the energy in EM appears.This is a real head scratchier. And Iron Pyrite is a mysterious rock. More experiments to find out what it is.
John B

Rutherford snapped back, "For Christ's sake, Soddy, don't call it transmutation. They'll have our heads off as alchemists."

No seriously... that is very interesting John! Keep us posted on that one for sure!

Thanks

[minoly]

we put up our vid last night using a magnesium fire starter (a la LM) and copper coil - toward the end of the vid we add the calcium chloride (direct from the lab at the university so it's pure):
YouTube - min2oly's Channel

we also thought it would be pretty cool to put up a live web cam:
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not to prove anything, just thought it would be cool for all of us to watch and see when and if we have to add water, or more CC or if the magnesium gets tarnished so that it is not usable etc... it's been running since 6pm 1/25/2011 Seattle time.
just having fun w/ this,
P'n'S

[wrench76]

Thanks John B You have inspired me in many fields, I started with a ssg then moved on to building audio and guitar amps. And guess who I find once again. I truly believe if you guys want to get a better understanding how these components work build some small audio amps. Sorry to be off topic. I have the motor charging a 12 14Ah battery right now, It Is Charging Slowly but steady, its only been on for 30 min. so Ill keep you posted.


Brian

[John_Bedini]

Bedini GT3

Wrench 76,
That is great look at that battery what more could you ask for. This Battery Lasersaber has done is working really good, I'm now charging a 9 volt alkaline battery with it I have it up to 8 volts it was dead in one of my meters it measured two volts, so Wrench charge something with that.
John B

[John_Bedini]

Bedini GT3

FRC,
Chuck is going to look at it tomorrow, I can not burn the magnesium I checked it with another piece of Magnesium it burns right up. Yes I will tell you what it is. That is right this should all be fun in this field it's never ending.
John B

[FRC]

Dvd

I also saw John's transmutation DVD. It is amazing, I have previously studied
some of the alchemists, my screen name has a connection to that, for those
who no what those letters stand for. I am just wondering if John will have the
metal assayed ? Or will that remain a mystery for us to find out on our own ?
It is almost a daily occurance of new and exciting discoveries on this thread.
Hope it continues.

FRC

[John_K]

Hi John B,

Thanks for the update. That is amazing. I've seen your transmutation DVD and it does make me scratch my head.

I'm going to the crystal shop tomorrow to get some Iron Pyrite and see what they have in Magnesium that I can experiment with. If you have any other suggested crystals or minerals I could play with let me know and I'll get them at the same time. My wife can buy them wholesale.

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John K.

Sorry off subject of Joules for a moment....

John K,
Some very Interesting things have happened to the rock battery, Transmutation has taken place with the magnesium, the magnesium will no longer burn, as it is not magnesium it looks like it.

The funny thing I think it's now silver as it seem to reacts the same way. What ever was in the Pyrite has now changed the magnesium, it's a soft material like gold or silver not lead. The rock is no longer Pyrite either, the Pyrite has a silver luster to it and no longer works as Iron pyrite.

Tom Bearden has said this before and I have done the experiments on minerals to prove that. It's that little spike that science refuses to look at. I have seen this happen in batteries when they had clear cases you could see the plates change and watch the plating take place. Hell your whole nervous system works on that little spike before the energy in EM appears.This is a real head scratchier. And Iron Pyrite is a mysterious rock. More experiments to find out what it is.
John B

[wrench76]

engine cover battery

@ all, I just uploaded a video of my engine cover battery in action. I just had to build a motor for it after see John Bs. It has been running for almost 24 hours, but this battery had run a joule thief with a few leds for months before this.
Thanks to everyone here for all the great ideas.

YouTube - 100_1690.MOV

P.S. Good luck with the winding Brent.



Brian

[John_Bedini]

Bedini GT3

Brent,
This is what I'm saying , I would to prefer to use the Fet as it is not as much trouble as the SCR. I would not worry about putting real sulphated batteries on the output of the machine with the Fet. This is not real hard to make.
I'm trying to make this as simple as possible here and not winding everybody up with all this math that does not apply to non-linear systems. Not that I do not use the math, I do but not here at this moment.

I said I was using a Fet in the control box it works just fine, I'm saying how I want to change it to trigger with a SIDAC instead of capacitor timing like Mathew Jones did it.

Redrichie, have you built one of these machines because I don't know how many have ever built an SG's here, except for RS, John K Chuck H, this is not a big deal to do as all the circuits have been working for a long time.
People change things and get mixed results.

I never change anything until I get it working like Lasersabers battery, which is still working with just water.That device has given many hours of energy for the price of water, but it could be rain. It takes time to get these thing working. Chuck H helped me at work to get that big GT3 running it's not easy to adjust but once it's right you can walk away from it and let it charge.

Chuck H at work has built simple ones and they work. What I'm trying to point out here is the energy is everywhere you just need the right pump for the job. The little experiments I'm doing on Youtube should show that.
Your machine will work with those big coils. No one has coils that big on SG machines except Me at this point, Your next to do it. I have faith it will work.
John B

[redrichie]

Good luck Brent. Looks like you got your work cut out for you.

[BrentA929]

Negative Switching

John B,

Thanks for the clarity...

So, are you saying that you are just trying to test and replicate the circuitry that Mathew Jones has posted by building your own SSR with the listed components?

I am a little confused and trying to make sense of what you are saying. I went back and looked at where Mathew Jones had posted that. I think Nvisser had done some of the same stuff with the SSR and also posted a schematic of his idea of a FET pulser.

I remember you saying that a FET and zener will work just fine. Is the attached schematic more in line with that statement? And are you saying that a FET will work better than a SCR?

BTW, our spools came in today!!! YEAH!!! Let the winding begin...


Thanks, Brent

Brent,
I'm talking about making a solid state relay for the switching.
The Fet would get around the problems with the SCR.Mathew Jones shows the circuit a few pages back, but that solid state relay is costly so we could make that with the opto and the regulator for the gate voltage and the resistor to pull the gate off. The way around his circuit for timing is a SIDAC at 40 to 60 volts to fire the opto when the capacitor reaches the correct voltage. that is the switch I'm working on. NTE makes that part NTE6415. The higher the voltage the better, then the battery will charge fast that is what we want. Capacitor dump circuits must be double in voltage or very close to it.

John B

[John_Bedini]

Bedini GT3

Sorry off subject of Joules for a moment....

John K,
Some very Interesting things have happened to the rock battery, Transmutation has taken place with the magnesium, the magnesium will no longer burn, as it is not magnesium it looks like it.

The funny thing I think it's now silver as it seem to reacts the same way. What ever was in the Pyrite has now changed the magnesium, it's a soft material like gold or silver not lead. The rock is no longer Pyrite either, the Pyrite has a silver luster to it and no longer works as Iron pyrite.

Tom Bearden has said this before and I have done the experiments on minerals to prove that. It's that little spike that science refuses to look at. I have seen this happen in batteries when they had clear cases you could see the plates change and watch the plating take place. Hell your whole nervous system works on that little spike before the energy in EM appears.This is a real head scratchier. And Iron Pyrite is a mysterious rock. More experiments to find out what it is.
John B

[John_K]

It's what you get out of the battery that counts

Hi All,

Interesting series of posts, thanks all.

I just wanted to point out that regardless of the maths and formulae, at the end of the day it's how much you can get out of the battery powering a load that counts.

John B is absolutley right, the common lead-acid battery is a non-linear device so some of the rules don't apply. I have to agree with him, it's the signal that we are sending to the battery to get the ions to move that is important, not the amount of "current" we belt it with. This signal tells the battery to charge. As John B has said in the past, the battery has all the electrons it needs, we don't need to give it any more.

He's also dead right about the type and condition of the battery. For example, I had my S1GT running on large GOOD 130Ah flooded deep cycle batteries last week. I had three in series at 36V. I could run the S1GT at 36V input, all 4 windings on the main coil connected and a 2 x 6,800uF 50V caps in parallel for the store and dump, using the SCR/zener/LEDs switching to dump it. The SCR would NEVER latch on.

Last night I hooked up 3 12V 7Ah gel-cells in series and could only run exactly the same circuit with 12V primary, only 1 winding on the main coil and 6,800uF 50V cap, otherwise the SCR would latch on. The gel-cells are not new and have a few years of abuse with various different builds. They are probably half dried out. I only use them as lab rats to see if the circuit works.

I took a video of this on my phone but it was too big and I can't upload it so I will have to do it again tonight.

The lesson I learned was that the batteries are very much part of the circuit. To get good results, you need good batteries and you need to work them.

I don't want to sound like a Mr. Knowitall because I'm defintely not but don't get too hung up on the math. There are too many variables that will drive you crazy if you try and work it out.
The only real test you can do is charge the battery up to at least 14.5V and then load test it to see how much energy you can get out of powering a real load. This is believe is one of the most fundamental things people miss when doing this research.


John K.

[John_Bedini]

Bedini GT3

Gyula,Gene

I guess you have summed it up with the figures right to the book. Now please consider the non-linear situation presented by each and every battery. The impedance changes from second to second. So the waveform is never the same. I show this in some of the DVD's as the wave and spikes keep changing. I agree that you have it down on this one. The loss will be in the switching device and capacitor so everything must be matched.

Yes you can Parallel Transistors and it will make a difference. It's just like amplifiers you do not want just one device doing all the work, the reason for emitter resistors to balance the Currents. If you get just one transistor with more gain then the others it will heat and fail. But since I use that switch all the time it can be balanced out. I must find a way to post some of Cole's drawings, I will work on that tonight.

OH I forgot to say yes it is tied to duty cycle of the output switch as it is the time it's on for the dump. Look at PWM controllers.
John B
John B