Peter Daysh Davey Water Heater Query

[MonsieurM]

Professor, could i ask a favor from you; could you have a look at this post http://www.energeticforum.com/161519-post363.html , just click on the picture to see the vid....that set up are two Mobius Caduceus coils overlapped in opposite side coiled around a plastic test tube (the black thingy is just tape) filled with alkaline water dipped in acid water...the result was rapid hot water

the cables you'll see are just a lamp cable hooked to the coils

you were talking about simplicity...

ps: this was a curiosity experiment...I would love to know what you think of it...I personally don't know

starting at 4 seconds, you'll start seeing bubbles like in stanley meyers hho tubes

the set up has one end of a coil dipped in the test tube and the second coil has its end in the water cup; a the lamp cord has one end connected to one coil and the other end to the other coil

[MonsieurM]

Another intriguing find, MonsieurM -- thank you. Merci beaucoup.
Of possible interest: SuperMagnetMan Hollow SS Spheres

Now back to a major interest I think we all share, HOW TO;

1) get the information out there to the people world-wide

AND 2) make some FAIR and I think large profit (initially at least) for the inventor/builders;

AND 3) avoid being thrown in jail or "officially" harrassed.

I guess that's a major goal in my thinking -- to see if we can find a way to accomplish all three of these goals, simultaneously. Do you agree?

I'll be back with some ideas in about a day...

I am in complete agreement with you Professor, and will do my part as for simplicity...it should be as simple as an RLC circuit

in the construction of the Moejoe Cell...the inventor insist on demagnetizing the steel spheres for the capture of "orgone"

Official Website of The Moe-Joe Cell Spherical 316 Non-Magnetic Stainless Steel Joe Cell

[PhysicsProf]

Another intriguing find, MonsieurM -- thank you. Merci beaucoup.
Of possible interest: SuperMagnetMan Hollow SS Spheres

Now back to a major interest I think we all share, HOW TO;

1) get the information out there to the people world-wide

AND 2) make some FAIR and I think large profit (initially at least) for the inventor/builders;

AND 3) avoid being thrown in jail or "officially" harrassed.

I guess that's a major goal in my thinking -- to see if we can find a way to accomplish all three of these goals, simultaneously. Do you agree?

I'll be back with some ideas in about a day...

[MonsieurM]

from: KeelyNET: Dr. Andrija Puharich's Vibratory Method -- Vibrations that Split Molecules produce Energy | MERLib.org

A barrel-shaped cavity contains the water in Puharich's recently refined system. He introduces alternating current at A KEY FREQUENCY of 600 cycles per second.

The cavity resonates with the impulses in somewhat the same way the body of a violin resonates with the sound of one string, ADDING HIGHER AND LOWER HARMONICS TO THE PRINCIPAL TONE.

Vangard notes...

This paper is quite astounding in that it correlates with Keelys' claim that water can be progressively dissociated at 620, 630 and 12,000 cycles per second. These are on the molecular, atomic and etheric levels respectively.

It is interesting that the etheric level of 12,000 / 20 = 600 (Puharich's frequency) found by original experimentation. This 600 cps frequency is therefore a harmonic of the 12,000 cps frequency which Puharich discovered.

Keely also claims that the disruption of water occurs at 42,800 cycles per second. (more like 42712.2Hz )

The direct quote from the book "Keely and His Discoveries" by Bloomfield Moore, published in 1893 ;

"The orders of intensification for accelerating dissociation would not be understood by any explanations that could be made, if unaccompanied by the demonstrations witnessed by the late Professor Leidy, Dr. Brinton, and others.

hope this answers your question

[Cherryman]

"Particle Behaviour"

Hi all, I hope i'm gonna make sense;

From the beginning i'm thinking this works with reflection.

The key ingredient being the polished metal inner surface reflecting particles.

Either creating "super waves" of excitement, resulting in heat in colliding/focus points where the water heats up, maybe even some kind of micro cavitation or just friction

And because of the reflecting the particles can not escape easily so a larger efficiency occurs.

The frequency are used to create the vibration waves resulting to the sum, therefore the individual frequencies are not that important as the sum of all.

The amperage only being the resonating drive force, it could be heavily reduced by searching for different materials and material tension (tuning)

Now my little simulation:

Just out of curiosity i'm trying different shapes and see what the particles do

First a sphere,

You will see two half sphere's being the negative (blue) and inside a small positive (red) I give it one pulse of 300 "particles" emitting from both "electrodes"
I let the simulation run a while and you can see a pattern emerge. (And a few escape's)

BallShape_Rep10001-0450.avi - YouTube



First observation: , with this setup (like Witt) does it heat the water, or does it heat the center electrode?
Second: The center electrode could be a destructive force (Then the outside ring model makes sence)

It would be interesting if those with a working setup could probe the temperature in the middle of the can and to see if this is the hotspot (compared to other locations inside the can)






Next will be a pill shape.



(Still rendering)

[Slovenia]

Thanks!!

Hi Jay,

Thanks very much for taking the time to share this with me!!

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Hi Slovinia

i feel you pain there m8 as i have lost lots of important data in this way!
This little console app may help you Foremost

[MonsieurM]

and for those familiar with Rodin Math:

Exploding water with 42712.2Hz

4 + 2 + 7 + 1 + 2 + 2 = 18 = 1 + 8 = 9

Vibration of antagonistic thirds, sixths and ninths on the mass chord will compel progressive subdivisions and to get the best effect on water, the instrument is set on all of these.

[MonsieurM]

Thanks, MonsieurM. Yes, this is the right fellow no doubt:



Hmmm... lots to ponder. Timothy said he had THREE wave systems/vibrations/chords? going in his sphere... What frequencies would you guess are in his spherical boiler?

Can't help you here professor , but i could guess on his method...If his work is based on Keely's work ...then you have to think like Keely

SVPwiki : 15.18 - Keelys Process for Liberating Ether from Water

SVPwiki : Mass Chord

"The mass chord of any mass is that lowest or fundamental vibration to which that mass is resonant.

"As every mass consists of vibrations in thirds, balanced in harmonic? equilibrium, it stands in harmonic relation to every other mass. All forms of matter and motion are thus interrelated and mutually convertible, one into the other, and through resonance, increasing or diminishing this sympathy, we can control the states of matter." (Keely)

"In his researches Keely discovered a system of obtaining the "chord of mass" or keynote of all substances, whether mineral, vegetable or animal. He does not give or even hint at the method by which this was obtained, and it is supposed this is the "one detail" which he kept secret until his one patentable invention was to have been completed.

but what you have to realize is that he left us a clue....Exploding water with 42712.2Hz...and Harmonic Math will definitely allow you to find the frequency to boil water


from the link on water

Water is a ready and fit subject for vibratory research on account of its "differential volume" and gravity of its gases. Even on simple thirds the differential action between hydrogen and oxygen causes antagonism and dissociation. The differential of mass is such that the hydrogen and oxygen become thoroughly repellant and thereby exhibit thousands of times more force than could be induced by heat on the same amount of water. Vibration of antagonistic thirds, sixths and ninths on the mass chord will compel progressive subdivisions and to get the best effect on water, the instrument is set on all of these. First, the focalizing chord of sixths induces perfect harmony to the mass chord.

[PhysicsProf]

Thanks, MonsieurM. Yes, this is the right fellow no doubt:

"He (Keely) discovered that it is impossible to use the (A)ether in any way other that as a medium for other forces. These forces have to do with the polar stream of the earth and are tuned to by Keely's system of "sympathetic vibration" (i.e. by resonance of certain harmonic chords). In following a course of research in resonance phenomena, Keely achieved a very advanced understanding of the Universe"...
Exploding water with 42712.2Hz

Hmmm... lots to ponder. Timothy said he had THREE wave systems/vibrations/chords? going in his sphere... What frequencies would you guess are in his spherical boiler?

[MonsieurM]

@ Gordon ,You are an info Monster!!

Can't help it ...I should have gone with the surname Mr Hyde

[MonsieurM]

MonsieurM --
Barium titanate is interesting material alright -- I worked with it as an undergraduate in physics, years ago. I recall getting a decent shock out of the stuff... Of course, at the time, I was not thinking about OU.

You noted as a source "Keely Net". In this vid, Timothy says his water heater is based on "Keely's sympathetic vibration physics" -- does that make any sense to you?

And note that I'm not saying the spherical geometry is necessarily better than a cylindrical geometry -- just something to Ponder about.

Safe travels, Chet!

did some research on Keely found this:

PowerPedia:John Keely - PESWiki

Some believe that the research of Nathan Stubblefield and his Earth battery system utilizing copper rods and iron rods. One could sink them in, probably, even at best, utilize Stephan Reiss's method for water-production by drilling very deep into the rock to hit fresh water - so Keely connected with Stubblefield, and Reiss hinted at equals battery-power from the earth's magnetic field using the earth-battery or magnetic induction amplifier of stubblefield, then this can be used for voice transmission over long distances, and also then a specific shape vibrated and driven into the ground, for water-receival.
Water disassociation
SVPVRIL Water Disassociation page - Keely's Dissociation of Water - General Description of Apparatus and Demonstrations

(from Keely's physics):
The Dissociation of Water.
Frequency of Hydrogen- 42,800 / 6562.79 (Hydrogen) = 6.5216.
Frequency of Oxygen- 42,800 / 7775.43 (Oxygen) = 5.5045.
(Note: Dissociation occurs at about 5.5 and 6.5 times the frequency of hydrogen and oxygen).
"He (Keely) discovered that it is impossible to use the (A)ether in any way other that as a medium for other forces. These forces have to do with the polar stream of the earth and are tuned to by Keely's system of "sympathetic vibration" (i.e. by resonance of certain harmonic chords). In following a course of research in resonance phenomena, Keely achieved a very advanced understanding of the Universe"...
Exploding water with 42712.2Hz

Post From JoesCell2 (this is the opinion of a private person):
Keely found that water will explode at a frequency of 42,712.2 Hz. ... did it with a Quartz Bowl....Think Quartz and how symmetry applies to magnets because that is how quartz crystals are formed, via symmetry. The 42,712.2Hz was applied to a quartz bowl with distilled water at which time it EXPLODED and disappeared. After this experiment Keely began studing geometric shapes that hold these specialized frequencies which can manipulate matter and the mind. So the power of the mind possibly can be realized by the special shapes that Keely discovered from special frequencies. if you know how this works you wouldnt even need a Joe Cell to make power and after a while not even the special shapes because you could use your voice.[B] i will add that if you want your joe cells to work better place it on a 10 or 12 point tesseractmade on copper foil. You can get it at lowes home improvement in their building materials section.

replace Quartz with Barium Titanate, hope this helps

Alpha Quartz has a helical shape...I would recommend you go through the thread http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...magnetism.html ...much info on quartz...Slovenia and Ramset have been following along...always good to read you guys

[PhysicsProf]

MonsieurM --
Barium titanate is interesting material alright -- I worked with it as an undergraduate in physics, years ago. I recall getting a decent shock out of the stuff... Of course, at the time, I was not thinking about OU.

You noted as a source "Keely Net". In this vid, Timothy says his water heater is based on "Keely's sympathetic vibration physics" -- does that make any sense to you?

And note that I'm not saying the spherical geometry is necessarily better than a cylindrical geometry -- just something to Ponder about.

Safe travels, Chet!

[RAMSET]

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[RAMSET]

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Professor,
This gives me The Chills [Good ones]
@ Gordon ,You are an info Monster!!

I believe we are on the trail of how this works?
@"We the Peeps" [posted above] ,Aren't you the fellow with Marine Transponder skills??
@ Ahura,
As Slovenia Pointed out ,And Daemon Reiterated,
""Tune On the Fly""
Of Course Things will change "Be Ready" !!

I'm On A Thirty Hour Time schedule to get My Heat fixed And get back to the facility.[3 hr Drive each way ]
Gotta Go...........
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[MonsieurM]

A little more info on Barium Titanate :

http://***.aip.org/resource/1/japiau...sAuthorized=no

Asymmetric Hysteresis Loops and the Pyroelectric Effect in Barium Titanate

Dynamic pyroelectric techniques have been used to study single crystal BaTiO3 hysteresis loops which have been reported in several recent investigations to be asymmetric with respect to both the polarization and electric field axes. It is shown that an apparent polarization bias occurs because of electrode‐edge effects and that this bias may be shifted with an appropriate application of a dc field which serves to alter the direction of the polarization in fringe regions which contribute to the observed pyroelectric signal. The pyroelectric hysteresis loops are symmetric with respect to the polarization when electrode‐edge effects are eliminated. These data strongly suggest that asymmetric remanent polarizations reported in several piezoelectric and pyroelectric investigations may have been due to edge effects. The pyroelectric hysteresis loops are found to be biased with respect to the electric field axis in the same manner as that reported in a recent piezoelectric study. Small residual pyroelectric signals observed at temperatures above the Curie point of the bulk material do not result from fringe effects, and the earlier interpretation of the residual signals in terms of a polarized surface layer is consistent with the present results.