Peter Daysh Davey Water Heater Query

[daemonbart]

Ferrite?

Hi,

when running some setups with ferrite parts I had sparks shooting holes in ferrite, ferrite was 15mm thickness, also shortcuts and blowing fuses

Kind rgds D

What to use for Ferrite /
Welding rod ??
Suggestions.........
THx
Chet
PS
Professor
I will be doing a baseline and then device test Calorimetry! {otherwise it wouldn't be any Fun]

[MonsieurM]

Gordon
That says 4/10mm wire
Is that 4 pieces of 10 mm wire [Huge]?
Or 4 strands totaling 10MM?
Or 4 Gauge stranded??

Also ,am I hooking it up the same as the boiler
One wire Hot
One wire Neutral
?
Cardboard tube in Water ?? [I hate Cardboard tubes in water]

What to use for Ferrite /
Welding rod ??
Suggestions.........
THx
Chet
PS
Professor
I will be doing a baseline and device test Calorimetry! {otherwise it wouldn't be any Fun]

Take two wires, i used wires with standard gauge as you can see in the picture ,usually used for transformers and did the operation described above

if you have access to a test tube and a large cup of glass (of course this is for testing the replication ) ...coil the 2 Mobius wires as described to the test tube ...once done you end up with 4 wires as shown in the picture....take a lamp cable connect one end to red wire and the other end to orange wire.... this part i cannot say for sure which went where but you take the last two loose ends...one goes in the test tube....the other in the glass...

replace core with test tubea single coil overlapping coils

[daemonbart]

Superheat!

Hi,

well my small bubbles travel about 50 cm to surface of water and dont condensate, water is about 60 deg C.

I have lid on tank and only small leak, still loosing 20l in 24h .

Under pressure of about 1 bar we can avoid this .

Today testing 48V DC 1 amp, no pulsing or anything.. My device seem to start resonating on its own. I have heat and hydrogen

Only tapwater, water look like fog, you fellas with hydro experience, what does the size of the bubbles tell?

When I ignite it seem to implode and sounds like pistol shot..?

Kind rgds D

[RAMSET]

Gordon
That says 4/10mm wire
Is that 4 pieces of 10 mm wire [Huge]?
Or 4 strands totaling 10MM?
Or 4 Gauge stranded??

Whats this "Enameled Wire""?? Enamel like Glass?? or just a generic term for insulated wire?

Also ,am I hooking it up the same as the boiler
One wire Hot
One wire Neutral
?
Cardboard tube in Water ?? [I hate Cardboard tubes in water]

What to use for Ferrite /
Welding rod ??
Suggestions.........
THx
Chet
PS
Professor
I will be doing a baseline and then device test Calorimetry! {otherwise it wouldn't be any Fun]

[MonsieurM]

I agree! although the build will take a few days in my case. Also, Gordon, have you done any Power-out / Power-in measurements?
I see that you posted just as I was writing... puts us almost in synch I should say.

(Note: today is busy with family here, but will try to keep up.
@DB -- thanks for the updates -- and MORE POWER TO YOU!)

sorry Professor ...this is within your range guys not mine...this was a test i ran a while back ...you know how it goes...what if i did this what would happen....oh look bubbles

the design, i hope is simple enough to be replicated...took me about 1 hour to complete...the hard part is coiling the wire because they are a bit stiff...that is all

Synchronicity has been a good companion in this research


worth noting, while running the experiment a slight buzzing was heard...

if it was shorted it would have blown a fuse, just in case you are wondering

[MonsieurM]

here is a vid on how to make a mobius wire; it is in the first minutes of the vid

Mobius Coil, Crystal Orgone Orgonite - YouTube

[PhysicsProf]

Gordon
If you post a bit more I will Do a replication

Tonight!!!

I'm chompin at the bit over here!!
....

Thx
Chet

I agree! although the build will take a few days in my case. Also, Gordon, have you done any Power-out / Power-in measurements?
I see that you posted just as I was writing... puts us almost in synch I should say.

(Note: today is busy with family here, but will try to keep up.
@DB -- thanks for the updates -- and MORE POWER TO YOU!)

[MonsieurM]

Gordon
If you post a bit more I will Do a replication

Tonight!!!

I'm chompin at the bit over here!!



Thx
Chet

What do you need to know, i'll help if i can ....just let me know

U need two well insulated copper wires of a good length (say six feet each...trying to stay within the harmonic math range six feet = 1.8288 meters )

use the link above to make a mobius coil : Mobius Coil Tutorial

then wrap around whatever you desire the first mobius wire in Caduceus Manner



and the second mobius wire should be coiled 180 degrees (or opposite )of the first coil

[RAMSET]

More info

Gordon
If you post a bit more I will Do a replication

Tonight!!!

I'm chompin at the bit over here!!

@DB
Would seem a super heat condition ?
Quote:
""Another observation is when boiler tank is pressureless a lot of water is steaming away, 20 liters / 24 h""
@ Duncan
I have a friend who would be interested in this [fluid dynamics] "EvolvingApe"
I don't see a power connection? [of course that could be the whole intent of the patent]

Thx
Chet

[Slovenia]

Very Cool

Thanks for sharing about this Duncan. Very cool indeed!!

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[Slovenia]

Thanks!!

Thanks for the update Daemonbart. Incredible stuff!!

Hi,
my setups seem to work the same at any temperature, at boiling current draw is less but that seem to depend on steam on active surface.

I can not say cop is better at any temperature range. I am no longer sure that my setups use sound waves, I think that it could be spark gap under water???

This is only a theory from practical observations from many setups

Another observation is when boiler tank is pressureless a lot of water is steaming away, 20 liters / 24 h

Kind rgds D

[Slovenia]

Thanks!!

Nice to be hearing from you again Gordon. You come up with some very interesting material indeed. Very interesting. Thanks for sharing it!!

just in case you cannot visualize it...I found a similar design that was proposed here: Wild & crazy Caduceus Coil interpretation

the only difference is that in my set up I added the Mobius design:

link on how to make a mobius wire

Mobius Coil Tutorial

ps: Nice find Duncan

and I do mean fast water heating...the vid i showed is 1 min long and stopped the experiment right after.....and the water was burning hot...almost burned my fingers lifting the glass...and easy to replicate for those curious enough to try it

you decide if it worth exploring

[MonsieurM]

Professor, could i ask a favor from you; could you have a look at this post http://www.energeticforum.com/161519-post363.html , just click on the picture to see the vid....that set up are two Mobius Caduceus coils overlapped in opposite side coiled around a plastic test tube (the black thingy is just tape) filled with alkaline water dipped in acid water...the result was rapid hot water

the cables you'll see are just a lamp cable hooked to the coils

you were talking about simplicity...

ps: this was a curiosity experiment...I would love to know what you think of it...I personally don't know

starting at 4 seconds, you'll start seeing bubbles like in stanley meyers hho tubes

the set up has one end of a coil dipped in the test tube and the second coil has its end in the water cup; a the lamp cord has one end connected to one coil and the other end to the other coil

just in case you cannot visualize it...I found a similar design that was proposed here: Wild & crazy Caduceus Coil interpretation



the only difference is that in my set up I added the Mobius design:



link on how to make a mobius wire

Mobius Coil Tutorial

ps: Nice find Duncan

and I do mean fast water heating...the vid i showed is 1 min long and stopped the experiment right after.....and the water was burning hot...almost burned my fingers lifting the glass...and easy to replicate for those curious enough to try it

you decide if it worth exploring

[daemonbart]

Working in every temperature!

Hi,
my setups seem to work the same at any temperature, at boiling current draw is less but that seem to depend on steam on active surface.

I can not say cop is better at any temperature range. I am no longer sure that my setups use sound waves, I think that it could be spark gap under water???

This is only a theory from practical observations from many setups

Another observation is when boiler tank is pressureless a lot of water is steaming away, 20 liters / 24 h

Kind rgds D

I had no time to work on this project unfortunately but what still bother me is when the power consumption is less ? Does somebody have a working unit in closed loop water system heating ? If this device works on acoustic resonance standing sound wave inside can then it needs water preheating to boiling temperature inside can and during this time electric energy consumption would be typical for immersion electric heater COP < 1

[Duncan]

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