Peter Daysh Davey Water Heater Query

[boguslaw]

I had no time to work on this project unfortunately but what still bother me is when the power consumption is less ? Does somebody have a working unit in closed loop water system heating ? If this device works on acoustic resonance standing sound wave inside can then it needs water preheating to boiling temperature inside can and during this time electric energy consumption would be typical for immersion electric heater COP < 1

[Slovenia]

Message from Mr. &quot;C&quot;

Message from Mr. "C"

IKEA bottle has to resonate at 60 Hz, IKEA fingers around the bottle can resonate at 60 Hz, 120 Hz, 240 Hz, 480Hz for the U.S. IKEA or bottles in the EU has to resonate at 50 Hz. Ring around IKEA bottles can resonate at 50 Hz, 100Hz, 200Hz, 400Hz for the EU.

Publish this on energetic forum.

[Slovenia]

Tension

Hi Duncan,

There's a little tension out there regarding how some of my experimenters are perceived and I woke up with a burr under my saddle. I was just venting a little. I wasn't venting at you. I have great regard for you. You are always there to help and you help a lot!! Always good to hear from you.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Who said spoons?

[Duncan]

what was that!!

Serbian Boiler

This device does work! The problem is having the smarts to harness it's power and apply it in a real life application. This device makes a lot of heat and with pulsed DC current, a lot of hydrogen. This device makes a lot of heat even when not tuned properly. When tuned properly to the prescribed values, it make a lot of heat very efficiently. So, we know the device works, what do we do with it? Well, you have several options. You can make steam to power a steam engine to turn a generator; you can use the heat from the device to heat up a manifold inside your furnace; and/or you can make a very efficient hydrogen booster type device for your car or truck. There are many options here and it would be nice if we could discuss these and figure some things out as a body of researchers. The main problem I see is that to many are not taking part in the actual discussion here. They are just gleaning what they can for their own uses and don't plan to share with anyone else. There are a few guys and gals here who to the contrary have found ways to harness this energy and are sharing off thread with other like minded persons. I have been privy to some exciting information about device and what it will do if you know how to apply it.

The proper gaps have been shared; tuning requirements have been shared; and I will tell you that when your boiler is properly tuned it will work well and not make any gunk. The not making any gunk is a sign that your boiler is almost in perfect tune. If you have a gunk maker, your boiler is not in tune. You either failed to get your gap right or you didn't tune your can to the appropriate specifications.

Anyway, let's get along with one another and utilize this great device for something good. If you are not sharing, please do not complain about others not sharing. Nobody wants to spoon feed anyone here.

Who said spoons?

[Slovenia]

The Next Level - PRACTICAL LEVEL

The Next Level (PRACTICAL LEVEL)

I think it's time to go to the next level. We need to start discussing how to apply the energy from this device. Perhaps if we start throwing ideas out there about how to utilize this energy in a real time productive method more folks will jump in here and participate. We can always tune the device to optimum performance later but now we need to do some serious soul searching about what we want to do with this device and how best to utilize it's energy.

Remember, we have hot water, steam, and also hydrogen if we use pulsed DC.
So, if you know one, share with us an expedient method for putting our Serbian boiler to use. Thanks!!

[Slovenia]

Thanks!!

Daemonbart,

Thanks for sharing those great results with us. You are a very sharp fellow indeed.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Hi,

50 liter of water rise 30 deg celsius in one h, = 1500 X 4,18 = 6270 kJ
6270 / 3600 = 1,74 kWh

Input energy 360W = 360 Wh = 0.360 kwH

COP = 1,74 / 0,360 = 4,83

True COP = 4,83 X 1,2 = 5,8 (I have about 20% loss from test tank)

This setup based on IKEA thermos.

Kind rgds D

[Slovenia]

Serbian Boiler

Serbian Boiler

This device does work! The problem is having the smarts to harness it's power and apply it in a real life application. This device makes a lot of heat and with pulsed DC current, a lot of hydrogen. This device makes a lot of heat even when not tuned properly. When tuned properly to the prescribed values, it make a lot of heat very efficiently. So, we know the device works, what do we do with it? Well, you have several options. You can make steam to power a steam engine to turn a generator; you can use the heat from the device to heat up a manifold inside your furnace; and/or you can make a very efficient hydrogen booster type device for your car or truck. There are many options here and it would be nice if we could discuss these and figure some things out as a body of researchers. The main problem I see is that to many are not taking part in the actual discussion here. They are just gleaning what they can for their own uses and don't plan to share with anyone else. There are a few guys and gals here who to the contrary have found ways to harness this energy and are sharing off thread with other like minded persons. I have been privy to some exciting information about device and what it will do if you know how to apply it.

The proper gaps have been shared; tuning requirements have been shared; and I will tell you that when your boiler is properly tuned it will work well and not make any gunk. The not making any gunk is a sign that your boiler is almost in perfect tune. If you have a gunk maker, your boiler is not in tune. You either failed to get your gap right or you didn't tune your can to the appropriate specifications.

[RAMSET]

A request???

To whom it may Concern....

This information was presented here with nothing but good intentions
It was not meant to be kept secret,I do not come here to keep secrets
And I do not spend my time here for my own exclusive, personal gain!
[Just like Many others Here]

We know how this works ... Perhaps we don't understand Why....
Professor Savic has postulated an explanation ?

and now we see some numbers on an ikea replication of the same tech from Daemonbart.

We all know how this works ,I hate to say the word because it gets beat up so much.

RESONANCE ..........Pressure ............ Why .............. Who knows

Mr. ikea, your rendering of Professor Savics Device has been replicated by Daemonbart .
I am attempting to get real serious with this replication ......

Can you share a few details here??

Or if you share them with me??
[email protected]

I will utilize them in my Open source experiments !

I await A reply .................

with all respect
Chet

[RAMSET]

a nice warm house.............

Thats all
I just want to make a nice warm House

Well maybe a few Grandmas Too...........

Well Maybe Clean [desalinate]some water in Africa..........
I want Slovenia to be able to Take his wife back to where he grew up in Africa and drop off a nice little Desalination unit while He's there.

Well Maybe...................??


Thats all!!

So DB
I'm gonna play tonight ![I'm just getting started]

Perhaps some help??

Thanks
Chet

[Ares123]

Hi DB

Please can you share with us?
Please can you do some scheme how your boliler looks (is mounted)
and measurments of cutoff and ring. Please. Maybe Ramset did just one err to get such results. If he replicates it then I belive You fully.

Best regards

[RAMSET]

Had to go to my boys birthdat party

My test from last night

1 liter 14 minutes 17.6 -C start temp 23.2-C finish temp [total rise 5.6 C }
Total Killowatt Hrs .01 [10 watts]

Looking at my results from last night and comparing them To DB's test

I got my but kicked................

and to be quite honest these results where some of the best yet !

Daemonbart
this is quite amazing!!
WOW
Chet

[RAMSET]

Mr DB
Quote:

Test of new setup!
Hi,

50 liter of water rise 30 deg celsius in one h, = 1500 X 4,18 = 6270 kJ
6270 / 3600 = 1,74 kWh

Input energy 360W = 360 Wh = 0.360 kwH

COP = 1,74 / 0,360 = 4,83

True COP = 4,83 X 1,2 = 5,8 (I have about 20% loss from test tank)

This setup based on IKEA thermos.

Kind rgds D

---------------------------------------------
HHMMmmmmm
Now I will see what it takes to do this conventionally??
And compare Notes!!

Very very Nice Mr. DB [and Mrs.DB]

Thank you
Chet

[daemonbart]

Test of new setup!

Hi,

50 liter of water rise 30 deg celsius in one h, = 1500 X 4,18 = 6270 kJ
6270 / 3600 = 1,74 kWh

Input energy 360W = 360 Wh = 0.360 kwH

COP = 1,74 / 0,360 = 4,83

True COP = 4,83 X 1,2 = 5,8 (I have about 20% loss from test tank)

This setup based on IKEA thermos.

Kind rgds D

[Guruji]

Don's device versus Dave' Heater

Hi




I beg to differ.
We are all here because we tried a lot of OU on different threads and failed. Some with less and some with more knowledge.

So I think that we were so excited about this MrC device or Davy because they look simple(but is complex) and don't need some electronics.

So I think if we are unable to tune or build this device is better to drop all this OU thing, because we wont replicate anything more. Example other "successfull" projects here - there are so many factors in equation that you will be demoralized 10 percent into the project let aside cost of equipment and very dangerous play with high voltage, wich I am afraid of and I studied electronics. It goes into energetics precautions. And I doubt many here are trained with that.

Until someone publish 100% schemes and plans and calculations I will not tuch that. It always starts entusiastic threads and then dies out with no results.

So back to boiler. If Slovenia started and with his truthful attitude brought this thread this far let it not just share the same faith.
So we stay oncourse. Find acoustic/mechanical ressonance of can ant then procede further.
Ramset and S you are quite brilliant builders so I am busy to find some common object resonate at 50Hz if I find one 60 will publish right away.
If aluminium is crucial element bothers me.(and I tend to this side MonsieurM once posted about water diode) .
Also I would like to know where calculations come from Mr C. For 65mm diameter of can and 150mm cut and 2,1mm.S please ask him, or I can give You set of questions on which he may answer, You can give me in original language and I will translate this properly and give You S back that You will publish it here.

Please help out if anybody thinks that knows formula behind.

Thank You

Ares you're right that it's a bit dangerous regarding high voltage but once it's build rightly it's much more than just heating. It's a small power station.

[RAMSET]

Lets see
Who has them Running so far

Wesley and his crew

Energia 9 [from OU.com]

Daemonbart wants to know how to charge batteries with his running unit

Wattsup had his Coming to life last night....

Of course Tiger has his doing push ups in the parking lot .....

Who else???